MMS De-Mystified
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It’s now been over a year since I learned about, and started experiencing something wonderful; that has implications for every one of us. It’s known as “MMS” or the “miracle mineral supplement.” But it’s no miracle, it’s just wonderful chemistry. Due to the continued growth of this phenomenon, I produced a feature length documentary on the topic. But this article has now been read over 80,000 times, and is a great place to start your education on what MMS is, and what it can mean to you.
MMS is a chemical solution, but it is also protocol or procedure that involves precipitating a chemical solvent, chlorine dioxide, in quantities small enough to be safely ingested, and large enough to kill pathogens that are presently living in our body, robbing it of energy, and poisoning it with waste material, and making it more vulnerable to disease. If this is not your situation, it is certainly the situation of someone you know and love.
Caution flags rise immediately when the term “miracle” is used to describe anything that amazes us, or when we don’t understand how it does what it does. They certainly did for me. In this case, it is indeed amazing. However, an explanation of why MMS is so effective as a pathogen destroyer is possible. It’s not the MMS that destroys pathogens; the chlorine dioxide that is generated when using MMS does that. When you understand the chemistry, you’ll see why it’s not a miracle… it just seems like one.
Humble Origins
The MMS product and protocol was developed by Jim Humble, a gold miner and metallurgist, on an expedition into the jungles of Central America, looking for gold. It was a response to a need to help a member of his expedition who came down with malaria, more than two days away, through heavy jungle, from the next mine. After many years of experience, Humble always carried stabilized oxygen, which is really sodium chlorite (NaClO2), with him on such expeditions, to make local water potable. Facing the possibility of a quick loss of life, he gave it to the stricken man. To everyone’s amazement, he was well within a few hours. That sure seemed like a miracle, but Humble wanted to better understand what had just happened.
Over the course of several years, Jim Humble figured out that what made stabilized oxygen so effective in some malaria cases, was not the oxygen at all, but the trace amounts of chlorine dioxide. Further research led him to come up with a way to produce hundreds, if not thousands more units of chlorine dioxide than what is found in stabilized oxygen. This is through using a higher concentrate of sodium chlorite (28% — 22.4% effective sodium chlorite vs. 3% for stabilized oxygen), in conjunction with the activator. The proof of the efficacy of this simple protocol was in successfully helping over 75,000 people in several African nations – including Uganda and Malawi – rid themselves, primarily of malaria, but also hepatitis, cancer, and AIDS. I recently met a man in Sedona who contracted malaria on a recent trip to Africa. And what do you think helped him get over it quickly? You guessed it; MMS.
Jim Humble chronicled his experiences in two downloadable ebooks that are available at his web site: www.miraclemineral.org. The book is titled, The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century. Part one, which is a free download, tells how it began. Part two, which costs $9.95, continues the story, discusses the chemistry involved, and gives clear instructions on how to prepare MMS yourself. (A hard copy edition is also available.) This is important, because once you understand the chemistry, and the absolute absence of downside effects, outside of feeling nauseous and “expelling” when toxins and pathogens are dislodged, it becomes an option that anyone who may be on toxin overload must try out for one’s self.
Anyone can be on toxin overload. Some are but won’t admit it. Others would prefer to think they’re not. If your health is not perfect… you’re habitually low on energy, have trouble keeping your weight down, or blood pressure in the normal range, or constantly dealing with inflammation or pain, then there’s likely a toxin, heavy metal, virus, bacteria, or parasite issue in play. Traditional medicine will typically respond by loading you up with additional pollutants, many of which indiscriminately kill healthy tissue while going after “the bad guys.” Not so with chlorine dioxide. It only acts on harmful presences. Miracle or not, the effects are wonderful. I’d vote for Wonderful Mineral Supplement in a heartbeat!
Over the next few pages, I’m going to describe the MMS protocol. When followed, it will produce and distribute chlorine dioxide to your red blood cells, which is the most effective and intelligent pathogen killer known to Nature.
But first, a little background on the chemistry.
Chlorine dioxide and chlorine are not the same. Chlorine is a chemical element. In ion form, chlorine is part of common salt and other compounds, and necessary to most forms of life, including human. A powerful oxidizing agent, it is the most abundant dissolved ion in ocean water, and readily combines with nearly every other element, including sodium to form salt crystals, and magnesium, as magnesium chloride.
Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound that consists of one chlorine ion bound to two ions of oxygen.
Oxidizing agents are chemical compounds that readily accept electrons from “electron donors.” They gain electrons via chemical reaction. This is important because relative to chlorine dioxide, all pathogens are electron donors. Conversely, all healthy tissue and aerobic microorganisms are unaffected by chlorine dioxide.
Chlorine dioxide is extremely volatile. You might call it “hot tempered,” but in a very beneficial way. This volatility is a key factor in chlorine dioxide’s effectiveness as a pathogen destroyer.
The compound is literally explosive; so explosive, it’s not safe to transport in any quantity. Therefore, it is common practice to generate chlorine dioxide “on site” at the point of use. Most chlorine dioxide production is done on a scale that would prove deadly for individuals, for example, in municipal water treatment systems, where it is beginning to replace chlorine because it produces no carcinogenic byproducts. Chlorine dioxide is approved by the Environmental Protection Agency in safely removing pathogens and contaminates like anthrax. So you know it must be effective. However, the concentrations used in such applications can vary from 500 to over 6,000 parts per million (ppm), which would clearly be deadly to an individual. Using the MMS protocol you will produce chlorine dioxide in the range of 1 ppm.
You will use the MMS solution, which is safe to transport, to make a pathogen remover that can be effectively applied inside the body.
The MMS solution is 28% (22.4% effective) sodium chlorite in distilled water. You can produce chlorine dioxide with a single drop, when an “activator” of lemon juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid is added. The latter two activators are recommended for people with Lyme disease. The mixing ratio is five drops of activator to every one drop of MMS (5:1).
“Applications” of chlorine dioxide range from 1 drop (with 5 drops of activator) to a maximum of 15 (with 75 drops of the activator), except in life critical situations, where the maximum may be doubled (and in some really acute cases, even more are used). A “maintenance application” is six drops, with 30 drops of activator added. After adding the activator, the chemical reaction that turns sodium chlorite into chlorine dioxide takes only about three minutes.
The activating ingredient in vinegar that makes the change possible is acetic acid. It also sets the stage for what happens when the chlorine dioxide ions enter the bloodstream. This weak acid acts like a blasting cap by lowering the pH of the chlorine dioxide, without setting it off.
The natural pH of sodium chlorite is 13. Adding vinegar, lemon juice, or citric acid) creates about 3 mg of unstable but still harmless chlorine dioxide.
The Process
Let’s talk a bit more about how and why chlorine dioxide works for giving the immune system a new lease on life.
Volatility is what makes chlorine dioxide so effective when it contacts pathogens. As we’ve mentioned, chlorine dioxide is a safe and effective disinfectant in many municipal water delivery systems, hospitals, and even in bioterrorism response. It stands to reason that chlorine dioxide would be just as effective working in the waters of the human body.
Chlorine dioxide’s extreme volatility prevents pathogens from developing a resistance. Mainly because when they “clash,” the pathogens no longer exist. Yet, healthy cells and beneficial bacteria are unaffected.
While normal levels of oxygen in the blood cannot destroy all of the pathogens present under disease conditions, delivery of chlorine dioxide changes everything.
“Halt! Surrender Your Electrons, Now!”
When a chlorine dioxide ion contacts a harmful pathogen, it instantly rips up to five electrons from the pathogen, in what can be likened to a microscopic explosion… harmless to us, but terminal for pathogens.
The pathogen – an electron donor – is rendered harmless due to the involuntary surrendering of its electrons to the chlorine dioxide – an electron acceptor – and the resulting release of energy. Oxidized by the chlorine ion, the former pathogen becomes a harmless salt.
This process benefits a body that has become toxic.
Throughout the body, anywhere chlorine dioxide ions – transported via red blood cells – come in contact with pathogens, the pathogens give up their electrons and cease to exist. The chlorine dioxide armed cells only “detonate” on contact with pathogens, which include harmful bacteria, viruses, toxins, heavy metals, and parasites. All of these will have pH values that are out of the body’s range of good health. They will also have a positive ionic charge. The chlorine dioxide equipped cells do not oxidize beneficial bacteria, or healthy cells, as their pH levels are 7 or above, and hold a negative ion charge.
Chlorine dioxide ions will oxidize – meaning vaporize – diseased cells… anything that is acidic, with a positive ion charge.
If the chlorine dioxide ions encounter no pathogens or other poisons, it deteriorates into table salt and in some instances, hypochlorous acid, which the body can also use.
A Pathogen Terminator (including Swine Flu)
Research has proven chlorine dioxide to be much safer than chlorine, as it is selective for pathogens when used in water. Furthermore, it does not create harmful compounds from other constituents in the water as chlorine does.
Numerous scientific studies have demonstrated that chlorine – part of the halogen family of elements – creates as least three carcinogenic compounds when it enters the body, principally trihalomethanes (THMs). There has been no such evidence of harmful compounds being produced from chlorine dioxide.
This is why, in 1999, the American Society of Analytical Chemists proclaimed chlorine dioxide to be the most powerful pathogen killer known to man. It has even been used to clean up after anthrax attacks.
A Journey into Chemical Alchemy
Once it is introduced into the bloodstream, chlorine dioxide performs a highly energetic acceptance of four electrons when it comes across any cell that is below a pH value of 7. This means that diseased cells are essentially vaporized (i.e., “oxidized”) while healthy cells are unaffected.
Here is how it happens.
Red blood cells that are normal carriers of oxygen throughout the body do not differentiate between chlorine dioxide and oxygen. Therefore, after ingesting the MMS/chlorine dioxide-rich solution, red blood cells pick up chlorine dioxide ions that are deposited on the stomach wall where it normally gathers nutrients of various kinds before journeying through the body.
Then, when the red blood cells armed with chlorine dioxide encounter parasites, fungi, or diseased cells that all have low pH and a positive ionic charge, the “aliens” are destroyed along with the chlorine dioxide ion. If no such encounters occur, the chlorine dioxide will be carried to a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidizes poisons and other harmful agents.
If the chlorine dioxide doesn’t hit anything that can set it off, it will deteriorate, and thus lose an electron or two. This may allow it to combine with a very important substance that the immune system uses to make hypochlorous acid. This compound kills pathogens, killer cells, and even cancerous cells. Hypochlorous acid is so important, its diminished presence in the body is described medically by the term myeloperoxidase deficiency.
Many people are afflicted by this condition. The immune system needs a great deal more hypochlorous acid when disease is present. Facilitated by the MMS solution, chlorine dioxide delivers it in spades, as does magnesium chloride, but that’s another part of the health discussion.
The most salient point to know, is that chlorine dioxide has 100 times more energy to do what oxygen normally does, and yet, will not harm healthy cells.
By the way, if you are totally healthy, and have nothing in your body that is at an acidic level below 7, there are no ill-effects from taking chlorine dioxide. However, your stores of hypochlorous acid will be increased.
MMS works best to destroy pathogens that may be present in the body, when 2 or 3 mg of free chlorine dioxide are in the solution at the time it is swallowed. However, the body is supplied with chlorine dioxide in a “timed release” manner lasting about 12 hours. Be aware, that before you feel better, it is likely you will feel ill.
“Why Must I Feel Sick?”
The nauseating feeling that you may experience would be the result of chlorine dioxide encountering, dislodging – hence the “sick” feeling – and then destroying pathogens encountered.
We are generally oblivious of the pathogens that are introduced to our body, especially after they have been stored in the tissue of various organs. Since they build up over time, they generally affect our health slowly, and cumulatively.
However, chlorine dioxide takes them out suddenly, which may result in a dramatic reaction. However, it passes in much less time than it took for the toxins and pathogens to accumulate.
When the chlorine dioxide “goes off,” the electron stripped pathogens cease to exist.
As an example, one will almost always feel ill in hepatitis cases because the liver is induced to expel stored poisons, which are then destroyed by an army of red blood cells containing chlorine dioxide. It’s really no contest. But it doesn’t have to be something as acute as hepatitis.
Years of “leeching” of from dental amalgams can “innocently” deposit enough mercury to one’s system to steal innocence, rob vitality, and erase precious memories. Dislodging and vaporizing it will feel uncomfortable for a very short time compared to the time it took to accumulate.
If you feel sick when you take this protocol, know that your health and vitality awaits to rejoin you on “the other side” of the ill feeling.
If it has no “close encounters” with pathogens, chlorine dioxide deteriorates into constituents that are totally non-toxic. Nothing poisonous is left behind to build up, as is the case with many medical protocols. Medical treatments currently provide you NO way of removing the poisons when said poisons don’t work. You are left on your own in a strange land and diseased state, without a roadmap back to health.
Nature’s chlorine dioxide, on the other hand, lasts long enough to do its job, then that which does not furnish the immune system with needed ions becomes nothing more than micro amounts of salt and water.
The chlorine dioxide has just a few minutes to do its thing, and then it no longer exists, leaving nothing behind that can build up, or do additional harm.
The Procedure
So the procedure is simple. All you need is your bottle of MMS, a clean, empty, dry glass, an eyedropper, and the activator (vinegar, lemon juice, or citric acid). The following procedure is taken directly from Jim Humble’s site (www.miraclemineral.org).
What is the Normal MMS Protocol
Note: When following the instructions below, keep this paragraph in mind. Always activate the MMS drops with one of the food acids, either lemon juice drops, or lime juice drops, or citric acid solution drops (to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.) Always use 5 drops of one of these food acids to each one drop of MMS, mix in a empty dry glass and wait at least 3 minutes, then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. (You can expand the 3 minutes out to 10 minutes, and after adding the juice or water you can wait up to an hour before drinking.)
- All protocol for taking MMS in the Americas starts with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with ½ drop. Activate the drops as given above.
- If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous. Note: If you notice diarrhea, or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last. It is not real diarrhea as the body is just cleaning out, and it is not caused by bacteria or virus. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.
- Continue to follow the procedure given in 2 above. Until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.
Note: Once you have completed step 3 above most of the viral, bacteria, mold, and yeast load will be gone from your body. Your body will be clean. You no longer have to worry about feeding the microorganism load. You can base you diet on nutrition, rather than not feeding the load. The diabetes will be gone, thus you no longer need to worry about sugar. You won’t have to worry about the pancreas over reacting thus giving you a shock of insulin. Instead it will give you just enough insulin to knock the blood sugar lever to the right level (You won’t feel sleepy after eating a candy bar). Your body will then be able to easily adsorb vitamins and minerals and many other nutrients it might have been missing up to this time. You should feel better as time goes by. Do not quit taking the MMS.
The ‘Healtholution’ Will Not Be Televised!
Start modestly with as little as 1 drop of MMS on your first day (using 5 drops of activator), and then increase the number on each following day, up to the maximum of 15 (with 75 drops of activator). ONLY THE MOST ACUTE TOXIC OVERLOAD SITUATIONS WILL WARRANT THIS AMOUNT OF APPLICATION. Your body WILL tell you when you’ve reached the optimum dosage for you.
You should consider an intestinal cleanse before starting your MMS detoxification program. Why? Because the more acute or “chronic” your condition, the more likely it is that you’ve got compacted fecal matter (a haven for parasites) lining the 28 foot length of your colon. Laxatives are ineffective at dissolving this stuff.
An all natural blend of oxygen and magnesium...
Oxy-Powder is an all-natural product, developed by Dr. Edward Group III, that comes in capsules (120 to a bottle), whose main ingredients are oxygen and magnesium. Take four capsules on an empty stomach before going to bed, and the next day you will be going to the bathroom 5-7 times. (I went more than that for awhile, so your “bathroom sitage” may vary.) Initially, the discharge from taking Oxy-Powder will be almost black. This isn’t pleasant stuff to look at, but be thankful that it’s no longer in you. It’s all what contributed to your body’s current condition. Taking this before beginning the MMS protocol will make the MMS/chlorine dioxide have to work that much less.
Fortunately, the Oxy-Powder isn’t unpleasant to take, and does the dissolving and dislodging while you sleep. You’ll know it has done its job when a dark, muddy “background” no longer accompanies your bowel movements. (Click here to order Oxy-Powder)
In general, the pathogen clearing using MMS will not be comfortable, but it need not be intolerable. The Oxy-Powder prep work should make it even smoother.
You may feel like you’ve been through a battle, and in a sense, you have. It’s a battle for domain over your health, and hence, your life. Before you can be healthy again, you need to take out the old “garbage,” destroy toxins, pathogens, and parasites. In order to do so, they have to be uprooted and released from their “strongholds” in your body tissue. You will feel the effects, but is a good thing. You will also feel health, again.
The sick feeling will be TEMPORARY, a small price to pay for the longer term possibility of lasting restored health, no matter what stage of life you happen to be currently experiencing.
When the clearing is done, you won’t need to take the maximum dosages. You can go on a maintenance application (six (6) drops of MMS) to keep your insides pathogen free and immune system strong.
A few more words about fruit juices. They can be substituted for water as long as they are freshly made. Do not buy them off the shelf and use them, and DO NOT use orange juice. Orange juice prevents the production of chlorine dioxide, as well as anything that has vitamin C added as a preservative.
I hope you have found this information helpful. The product known as MMS is not really chlorine dioxide, it’s not even a miracle. However, it is a safe and effective way to create one, by introducing a sure fire way to bolster the immune system and eliminate a full range of harmful pathogens, by delivering Nature’s pathogen destroyer, chlorine dioxide, into your body.
When combined with the rapid toxin removal power of chlorine dioxide, mineral replenishment with magnesium chloride and detoxified iodine for the thyroid, can point those with even the most acute conditions in the direction of some seriously wonderful well being.
Hear It
Jim Humble, developer of the MMS protocol, is my guest on Talk for Food. You can purchase this conversation on audio CD by following this link.
A second Jim Humble interview is titled, MMS Simplified, which you can listen to here. We discuss getting started, especially for people with acute disease challenges, “detox” vs. toxic nausea, comparative oxidation therapies, chelation, cancer treatment, and oral health.
The third is on cancer…
April 2009: Jim Humble speaks about swine flu and MMS.
NEW: From Bahia de Kino, Mexico. A face-to-face “on location,” “in studio” interview with Jim Humble. To listen, click here. << link broken… fix pending. AA~
MMS Video Development Announcement
November 26, 2007 — I am planning to visit Jim Humble for some up close and personal dialogues. Click here to read, and learn how you can be involved.
December 9, 2007 — I’ve been to Hermosillo and follow the MMS Video Diary entries of early December 2007.
December 22, 2007 — I traveled to Tijuana, Mexico and interviewed Dr. John Humiston, who uses MMS both in his practice, and personally. Follow this link to read, and view an embedded video clip.
February 9, 2008 — Video production and editing is completed, DVD’s are being manufactured, and first orders will commence shipping by February 18, 2008. Click here to view the latest video and order.
April 1, 2008. New web site for the video production > www.understanding-mms.com with store for ordering the DVD. The standard retail price of $29.95 goes into effect. Volume discounts are available.
Here’s a trailer for the documentary.
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By: Knowing Self as Key to Health and Healing « Thought for Food on September 13, 2007
at 7:37 am
In light of how many people are overweight I think you’re leaving out a significant piece of information–that it’s recommended 3 drops of MMS per 25 lbs. That puts anyone over 125 lbs at the 15 drop limit you mention.
Mr. Humble recommended that I (at 275 lbs)need to get up to 33 drops and thereafter a 10 drop dose for maintenance.
Also, in step 2 of the Procedure you need to add 1/2 tsp of activator for anything over 6 drops!
By: Dawn Alvarez on September 13, 2007
at 8:11 pm
Thanks Dawn, I’ve incorporated your comments into the text. Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 13, 2007
at 10:19 pm
I am an MMS experimentor. I read your article with interest. Can you please tell me where you got the following information that is in your article? I would like to have the sources so I can read it for myself and to use it as evidence of effectiveness if appropriate.
“Red blood cells that are normal carriers of oxygen throughout the body do not differentiate between chlorine dioxide and oxygen. Therefore, after ingesting the MMS/chlorine dioxide-rich solution, red blood cells pick up chlorine dioxide ions that are deposited on the stomach wall where it normally gathers nutrients of various kinds before journeying through the body.
Then, when the red blood cells armed with chlorine dioxide encounter parasites, fungi, or diseased cells that all have low pH and a positive ionic charge, the “aliens” are destroyed along with the chlorine dioxide ion. If no such encounters occur, the chlorine dioxide will be carried to a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidizes poisons and other harmful agents.
If the chlorine dioxide doesn’t hit anything that can set it off, it will deteriorate, and thus lose an electron or two. This may allow it to combine with a very important substance that the immune system uses to make hypochlorous acid. This compound kills pathogens, killer cells, and even cancerous cells. Hypochlorous acid is so important, its diminished presence in the body is described medically by the term myeloperoxidase deficiency.”
By: Arrow on September 14, 2007
at 6:59 pm
It’s in Part I of Jim Humble’s book: Chapter 3, page 7 of the 2nd edition (it’s in the original too).
By: phaelosopher on September 15, 2007
at 5:54 am
I’m not able to find sodium chlorite for purchase on the internet. Can it be purchased by the public? I found a couple of vendors selling MMS. Is that the same as sodium chlorite? How are they able to sell it as MMS but I can’t find it for purchase as sodium chlorite?
By: Leonida on September 18, 2007
at 6:50 pm
Sodium chlorite is readily available, but only in bulk amounts to businesses; 100 lb bags. The MMS producers have purchased these larger quantities, and parsed them down for the relatively small amounts required for human ingestion. The “MMS” is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water.
By: phaelosopher on September 19, 2007
at 2:51 am
I have found information that a product called nigari is also magnesium chloride. Nigari is used mostly as a tofu coagulant but apparently can also be used to make your own pre-made MMS. It is easily available for purchase on the web and much cheaper than the pre-made MMS.
By: Leonida on September 19, 2007
at 9:33 pm
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By: Magnesium Replenishment: Spreading the Word and Getting ‘the Point’ « Thought for Food on September 20, 2007
at 6:44 am
i recently ordered the MMS….i haven’t received it but when i do i was considering giving some to my dog…she has congestive heart failure. she is only around 10 #’s. is it ok to give to her and how much would i give her?
By: marie corrigan on September 20, 2007
at 7:00 am
Hi Marie,
Yes, it’s okay to give MMS to a dog. Jim Humble has advised that animals should receive 1 drop per 25 lbs in weight, same as for children. Even though your dog is only 10 lbs, due to the advanced stage of her condition, you might start with a single drop of MMS, plus the activator, then use another eye-dropper or syringe to get it down.
By: phaelosopher on September 20, 2007
at 9:16 am
Leonida,
I’m not aware of anyone’s experience with nigari that compares with how chlorine dioxide has shown itself to be safe and effective for human intake. People who are seeking such remedies are not as concerned about how cheap it is, but whether it works. It’s wonderful that the MMS protocol is inexpensive, but it’s fantastic that it actually does what it’s purported to do.
By: phaelosopher on September 20, 2007
at 9:19 am
A relative of mine is UN Representative in Malawi, and is much concerned with the serious health situation there. He could be instrumental in getting MMS into general use, but needs further evidence about the trials. Could phaelosopher tell me how I can find out where the trials were done. Which prison? Names of the doctors involved?
This would be a gift to humanity.
By: Dr Roger Taylor on September 21, 2007
at 3:22 am
Great I happen to live on on Island in the middle of the atlantic. I have cancer I am also strapped for cash but want to get well. My question could I find this on the Island I live on and How would I mix this up to make sure I kill cancer cells and not myself.
I would appreciate your help and I also read on the internet under wikipedia that it can be bought under the trade name of purite. sO IF ANYBODY OUT THERE KNOWS WOULD this putite be a 28 % mixture. Sorry I have no idea as the language here is so Portuguese and I cant speak the language. Tks for all help.
EXTRACT FROM WIKIPEDIA
The main application of sodium chlorite is the generation of chlorine dioxide for bleaching and stripping of textiles, pulp, and paper. It is also used for disinfection in a few municipal water treatment plants after conversion to chlorine dioxide. An advantage in this application, as compared to the more commonly used chlorine, is that trihalomethanes are not produced from organic contaminants. Sodium chlorite, NaClO2 also finds application as a component in therapeutic rinses, mouthwashes, toothpastes and gels, mouth sprays chewing gums and lozenges, and also in contact lens cleaning solution under the trade name purite.
In organic synthesis, sodium chlorite is frequently used for the oxidation of aldehydes to carboxylic acids. The reaction is usually performed in the presence of a chlorine scavenger.
Sodium chlorite, like many oxidizing agents, should be protected from inadvertent contamination by organic materials to avoid the formation of an explosive mixture.
By: Odigoblu on September 24, 2007
at 9:59 am
I have a friend who is a candidate for this protocol as she recently found out she “may” have subclinical lymes, after all the years she suffered at the hands of her “team” of physicians.
Her biggest fear is that because of the titanium rods in her back she hesitates to try anything not approved by her back surgeon. :sigh:
Can anyone of the top of your head think of a reason mms “might” be contraindicated in people with titanium rods in their body?
Thanks in advance. JayZee
By: JayZee on September 25, 2007
at 6:33 am
JayZee… I did a search on titanium contraindications, and came up with the following in Wikipedia:
“There are no absolute contraindications to implant dentistry, however there are some systemic, behavioral and anatomic considerations that should be considered.”
Now that’s strictly in a dental context. Further searching for femoral prosthetic applications, suggest that the only contraindications considered, are before implanting the prosthesis. There appear to be no issues concerning post implant interactions.
The chlorine dioxide only lasts roughly 2 hours in the body before it breaks down. In that time, it will act on bacterial, viral, and metal and organic (parasites) particulates. That would be a whole lot of disinfecting that can be done, particularly on the lymies.
I wonder whether any of her doctors hesitated to prescribe toxic medication for concern over the potential impact on the titanium?
By: phaelosopher on September 25, 2007
at 6:58 am
Good day Phaelosopher.
I have spent the whole day of today since one of my colleagues forwarded JIM HUMBLE’sbook to me. I do not doubt it. I live in Cameroon, were diseases, especially AIDS is so rampant with those who can not afford to go hospitals. Antiretrovirals are free in Cameroon but the people who are HIV positive need to stay healthy for as long as possible before before getting ARVs that will last them all their lives.
Last week, Prof Luc Montagnier, the French codiscoverer of the HIV postulated oxygen explosion as a means to erradicate the HIV virus in humans over state television CRTV.
Please can I get a simple means of generating the magic mineral at home, in Africa. This I may pass around to my friends who will it around to others. It may help humanity, especially the dosage for AIDS treatment.
Thanks a lot.
By: FRU NGANG on September 25, 2007
at 9:57 am
From the literature presented on MMS, Chlorine dioxide is an oxidizing agent. And the process of oxidative stress has been associated with pathogenesis. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant.
Is there any cause for concern that severe conditions may beexperienced after trying the treatment?
Hope to hear from you tomorrow.
By: FRU NGANG on September 25, 2007
at 10:28 am
Hi there Fru Ngang
What I have been reading and understanding from my personal knowledge of dealing with cancer holistically is that you need to start this protocol slowly. One drop per day working your way up to 20 per day. I have not tried this yet but I will be and I presume this protocol would be like experiencing a healing crises when fasting or doing a master cleanse. I believe the more toxic your inner terrain the worse you will feel until all those toxins are out of the body. So to me it would make sense to either do an enema or help your body along with something natural This obviosly on a daily basis until all toxins have been removed from the body.
I hope this will help, this is just my opinion. If anybody else out there can be more specific I would appreciate the info myself.
By: Odigoblu on September 26, 2007
at 1:46 am
Thanks Odigoblu for your comments.
By: FRU NGANG on September 26, 2007
at 9:14 am
This is fascinating material. As always I find something new here I have not seen before. I must read it again, because parts trigger that worrisome aspect of the brain: is it safe? is it safe? is it safe?
I appreciate you sharing this and your other articles. I searched your site to see if you had any information on changes in iris color. I often search and research, trying to amass different sources of natural/holistic healing approaches, but have just started researching as to iris color changes. If you have an article here I was unable to find, would you mind leaving a comment with the link?
Many thanks.
By: SurfaceEarth on October 6, 2007
at 4:29 am
[...] last week with Jim Humble, the developer of the MMS protocol (see my original post “No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry“). We talked about getting started, about nausea, some of the extreme disease situations he [...]
By: MMS and Clay as Natural Detoxifiers Discussed on Talk for Food « Thought for Food on October 7, 2007
at 9:37 am
I have a blog that is keeping up with information on MMS. Anyone wanting information on how to use MMS, what it is and the connections to Jim Humble’s pages and malaria organization can find it readily available at http://www.HealthSalon.org found in the MMS Testimonials thread.
I am interested in locating websites that originate in Africa that would be interested in linking to my blog so that people in Africa can have more access to MMS information. Please contact me through http://www.HealthSalon.org if you have any ideas.
You can communicate with me by making a comment in the comment section on any article I have posted in http://www.HealthSalon.org and I should be contacting you in a day or so.
By: Arrow on October 7, 2007
at 12:03 pm
Does MMS react with other compounds to create anything biologically dangerous. I currently use colloidial silver for Hep C and would be concerned with the salt bi-products of MMS combining in a negative way with the silver ions.
By: Jeff Boggs on October 10, 2007
at 11:29 am
I have had loose bowel movements for the last several months after a trip to Mexico. Two weeks ago I started with 6 drops as recommended by the owner of a supplement store who sold it to me. It cleared up immeditely for three days, then returned. He then recommended I take 12 drops since I’ve had this condition for quite awhile. I’m not any better, if fact I’m losing weight. Today I reduced the dose by 2 drops as recommended on the website. Should I go further? I need help with the the proper dosage.
By: Mariana Ornelas on October 12, 2007
at 3:18 am
I would love to be able to read the part one pdf. I have downloaded it three times but always get the message that the file was damaged and could not be rebuilt. I have emailed Jim Humble but not received a response. I am able to download other pdf docs no problems, so don’t know what is happening. If anyone hsa a working copy of the pdf would they be willing to email it to me? My email address is luckylouie@bigblue.net.au
Thanks
By: Louise on October 13, 2007
at 7:46 am
Mariana, what kind of activator did you use? If it was vinegar, the first step would be to use citric acid. Also, you say you’re losing weight… are you also feeling a loss of energy?
By: phaelosopher on October 14, 2007
at 5:57 am
I am so excited to begin this protocol for myself and my 11 year old daughter. However, I did see there are some things that need to be taken into account w/ dental fillings/crowns…Our apptmnt to remove the old materials via Huggins protocol w/ bio friendly materials isn’t untilNov14th Should we wait until afterwards? where can I get info on this? Thanks – hope this works b/c I have a lot of patients that could also use help
By: Dr.Carrie Settlemoir on October 15, 2007
at 2:03 pm
I plan to read Jim Humble’s two books and start MMS as soon as they arrive. Will I be able to continue to take the following supplements: Woodroot and Burdoct (for the blood), saw palmento (prostate), salmon oil (pre-diabetes; and baby asprin (colon) and Metamucil on a daily basis? Also, should one also avoid all illegal drugs and legal ones to include alcohol? Your response is appreciated. Thank you.
By: arthur harris on October 16, 2007
at 12:04 am
I am very preocuped to take MMs. I would like to know if anyone has contect Dr.Hector Romero in Mexico. I send a e-mail but nothing.
I want this to be true,but I want some data on that and I can’t find any. I see people beliving and taking it. Don’t you think this is to serius. Just because someone is a nice person and say great things, things that we want to belived, does not make it the true.
By: julie on October 16, 2007
at 2:04 pm
Many of you might find this web site to be of benefit. While long term use of MMS vote is still out, short term is very promising…
http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm
By: Linda or Angel on October 19, 2007
at 2:58 pm
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By: MMS for Crohn’s Disease and Parasites - Testimonial No. 6 on October 22, 2007
at 10:01 am
does MMS cure aids decease 100%…? does blood test result become negative upon using MMS…? i’m afraid if i got aids… pls give me guide…
By: hafiz on October 23, 2007
at 9:43 pm
Hi Hafiz… no one can say that “MMS cures” AIDS. What we can say is that it removes many of the factors that can contribute to a weakened immune system. If you find that you do indeed have AIDS (and even if you do not), I would suggest that you take very resolute steps to alkalize your body, through mineral — particularly magnesium — replenishment. MMS would not hurt either.
By: phaelosopher on October 24, 2007
at 12:46 pm
Arthur — MMS will not conflict with anything that is alkalizing on the body. I’m not sure why you’d want to continue with alcohol and illegal drugs while (I’m assuming) you’re attempting to restore your health. Alcohol isn’t helping you. Can’t speak to the drugs, though I’d venture a guess that they’re not helping you either.
By: phaelosopher on October 24, 2007
at 12:50 pm
Julie — people aren’t believing in MMS because someone is “nice”… they are considering it because the science indicates that it should work on a number of health issues. Only experience is going to give us a definitive answer on that. Do your homework. The decision, and the responsibility for your health and well-being, is ultimately yours as well.
By: phaelosopher on October 24, 2007
at 12:53 pm
What is the effect on herxing? Does the MMS cause herxing if the person has lyme diesease?
Has anybody tried this for chronic lyme diesease? That is undetected lyme that someone has had for many years, two or more, and now they know they have it.
By: John on October 25, 2007
at 2:45 am
First, you get nauseated, something that nauseates you is nauseous; you don’t get nauseous. They make the same mistake on “House” frequently, also.
Now: you don’t explain how this stuff gets mercury out of one’s system. I have severe mercury poisoning and have been crippled for several years. (Yeah, amalgams do a lot more than just rob you of lifetime memories!) Chelation has been harsh and slow. Once I got my amalgams out I thought chelation would take care of it and I’d get well. But it didn’t go down that way. DMPS was harsh (she put me on 500 mg 3x day, where before it was 200 mg) and it chelated so much magnesium I could barely walk and had to discontinue. I have used protein aminos that seemed to be more effective than the DMPS was before I got the amalgams out, but I’m not sure how fast the mercury is getting out. But it gets in your cells after awhile, doesn’t stay in your blood, and it’s a lot of effort and supplements (I am so sick of taking capsules!) and I have to try and remember psillium husk powder every day and I’m tired of all these protocols!
You have not given any information on the chelation or any other disposal of heavy metals, you just mention them vaguely. Let’s dive into that subject.
By: Arika on October 26, 2007
at 4:27 am
The previous question regarding oxidative stress is an important one that has not been addressed in any satisfactory way.
Is there any reason to believe that the oxidizing action of chlorine dioxide will cause damage in the form of free radicals?
By: Ray on October 31, 2007
at 9:21 pm
This is for Arika with the mercury poisoning. Arika there is a fabulous, inexpensive product called Modifilan, it is brown seaweed extract. It will take mercury and other heavy metals, including radioactive isotopes, out of the body better than chelation agents. It is gentle and effective. Many people have felt better who had mercury problems. http://www.modifilan.com
By: Neil on November 4, 2007
at 11:07 pm
Dear Adam,
Thanks for this article!!!
One thing: under “Hear It” at the end of the article, the link to the first podcast is bad. I managed to get there anyway by deleting the extra “www.http.com//” from the link, but you might want to fix that….
Andrea
By: Andrea on November 5, 2007
at 4:35 am
Andrea, Thanks for the heads up! Link fixed!
By: phaelosopher on November 5, 2007
at 7:00 am
Neil: Great info!
By: phaelosopher on November 5, 2007
at 7:07 am
John,
You may indeed experience herxing if you take MMS. You don’t have to have lyme disease either. I experienced it one day while taking only 4 drops. It was what my body needed to do, given the opportunity to rid itself of the “denatured” toxins. Many people with Lyme disease are now using MMS, though personally, I’ve not heard much feedback as yet.
By: phaelosopher on November 5, 2007
at 7:11 am
Hello,
My father was recently diagnosed with a form of leukemia (CLL). Immediately afterwards, he decided to make some extremely beneficial changes to lifestyle, diet and supplementation. Now he is on a daily regiment of Essiac, a mushroom based immune booster (pill form), milk thistle (liquid form) and a herbal blood cleanser (major ingredient burdock root). He sais that he feels much better and a lot more energized since he began this regiment 2 weeks ago. I’ll also admit that he has finally regained colour back in his face and doesn’t nap during the day anymore.
My question is as follows; could he also begin the MMS protocol while supplementing with all of the aformentioned alternative meds? could there be a reaction with a product that might cancel something out rendering it ineffective or could the whole thing work synergistically to build a super immune system?
comments…?
By: Daniel on November 5, 2007
at 7:52 pm
I just wanted to say thankyou to everyone who has sent me a copy of the 1st book. Very interesting reading and the information is very much appreciated.
By: Louise on November 6, 2007
at 12:04 am
Fascinated by Chlorine Dioxide for a couple of years, as American Biologics has Dioxy-Chlor. See now without a proper acid to activate, it doesn’t do all that much. Don’t think in homeopathic form it’s strong enough ..with all the spliced Ag fungi, etc being sprayed into the environment.
Having had mild cases of hepatitis A and meningitis.. I was concerned abt overdoing any detox, lest it trash my hormones. How to detox without more harm is a serious problem for many with severe allergies. And then I found MMS… Bless Jim Humble for figuring out how best to use it.
Doing the protocol I got slightly creative bcz I was getting alot of sensory and neuro symptoms being activated at the higher dose. Suspect my gut nerves were getting irritated. Someone sent me info about Glycerine helping to detox, so I just added 1/8 tsp of that to the drink. Sleep was great and today I feel wonderful. The aches and pains are much reduced. Can see the detox is still happening in my urine.
Thought it might help a few here to take the edge off of the herxing. Bet 2-3 drops of colloidal silver added in wd be great too, and possibly Lugol’s iodine. Chlorine Dioxide is a carrier and a killer.
By: Terry on November 7, 2007
at 4:38 pm
Arika……..I read your mercury problem. Essiac tea is said to counteract the effect of aluminium, lead and mercury. Also, I have a recipe for Cilantro Pesto, which can be used on vegies or just have it on bread or toast, and it does the same thing as Essiac Tea. I have made the Cilantro Pesto, and it is very easy to make and very tasty too. If you email me, I can send you the Cilantro recipe. Also, Neil has a website which sounds good as well. Happy if any of this helps you. My Essiac info came from the book “Cancer – why we’re still dying to know the truth”. Carol
By: Carol on November 10, 2007
at 7:47 pm
I would love the pesto recipe. Can you send it to me?
thanks
By: Bobby on July 10, 2009
at 11:23 am
I have a similar problem as Luise had – only, I can’t get Part II. Sounds made-up, but it’s not:
First, there is no Slovenia (my country) in the ordering form. It means I can’t order it.
Second, I don’t use plastc money (except VISA ELECTRON), nor PayPal or anything else. It means I can’t pay.
Third, I have contacted Jim Humble, but there is no response so far…
So, if anyone can send me Part II of the book, I’d be much obliged. My E-mail is
sacrament@sacrament.kibla.si
Normally, I wouldn’t ask for such copyright violation, but in Part I (downloaded last weekend), on side 126 of 127, Jim Humble says:
“If you are short now and don’t have the 10 bucks for book II, send me an email according to the instructions given on the copyright page at the beginning of this book and I will email you a free copy.”
Basically, I don’t have 10 bucks – simply because I can’t pay them…
I’m working with Ibogaine, which is legal in Slovenia, and quite some opiate addicts got rid of their addictions wit the help of Ibogaine. I have a feeling that success rate (which is around 75% at the moment) could be even higher with the use of MMS…
By: marko on November 11, 2007
at 10:01 am
Want to try the MMS and wonder what herxing is?
By: britt on November 11, 2007
at 10:27 pm
Sometimes it is good to hear a different viewpoint. Regarding MMC: many of the scientific and chemical claims don’t make sense or are nonsense. chlorine dioxide is a good disinfectent, sure, but it is no mircalue cure for anything. And while it is less toxic than chlorine it is still toxic and similar to chorine in many ways — including being a powerful oxidizing agent. For decades now people have been touting anit-oxidants for curing everything. Well guess what, an oxidizing agent is excatly the opposite and causes damage that anit-oxidants are supposed to protect you from. It doens’t make any sense. Basically just another health hoax.
By: stephen schiller on November 12, 2007
at 11:38 am
http://www.livingstreamsprobiotic.biz/ This is the super one of a kind Probiotic that That Jim Humble spoke of. I have had great success with weight loss and chronic fatigue!
By: Dave on November 12, 2007
at 11:53 am
Stephen, it would help to be specific. What specifically doesn’t make sense to you? Clearly, the MMS protocol is making sense to many people who have the courage to assess its merits on their own (not relying on unfounded naysaying), and try the protocol, and are getting real results. The name of the article starts with “No Miracle…”, so that point is understood. It is no miracle. Your point that is toxic, “like chlorine,” is fallacious, because chlorine dioxide is NOT chlorine, and behaves in a totally different way, which you’re not acknowledging. It only acts on diseased, not healthy cells. It produces no carcinogens. You do not take the very low concentrations into consideration, otherwise your vague misstatements couldn’t begin to sound valid. Your declaration of “hoax” is only that, a declaration, which is not supported by facts.
By: phaelosopher on November 12, 2007
at 11:09 pm
Britt… herxing is explained here: http://www.lassesen.com/cfids/herxheimer.htm
By: phaelosopher on November 12, 2007
at 11:18 pm
I would like to get Carol’s recipe for Cilantro Pesto, also I have enjoyed reading the comments, I have been on the MMS for over a week now, have built up to 15 drops, got nauseous & then had diarrhea for couple hours, I am taking this as a good sign, wonder if I should take 15 drops again tonite? I a also on Budwig diet, for breast cancer.
By: Linda on November 13, 2007
at 12:10 pm
I downloaded both books and the audio’s and read both books and also listened to both audio’s all in the last 24 hours.
I must say I’m extremely impressed and I’m in the process of finding supplies so I can make and distribute MMS myself.
By: pt49 on November 13, 2007
at 1:23 pm
Herxing appears to be the result of too many toxins being released into the blood stream to quickly.
Toxins build up in our systems are are stored in the liver. Too much of a buildup of toxins can cause liver damage, such as in cirrhosis in alchoholics for instance.
When a person goes on a liver cleanse diet, or any diet that causes toxins to be released from the liver, they end up in the bloodstream. If you don’t drink enough water to flush your system of these toxins you will get an itchy rash, mainly on the forearms and back of the legs.
I have experienced this after taking a herbal supplement that cleaned the liver and it is not pleasent, though it’s tolerable. Simply upping the water intake to 6 to 8 glasses of distilled or purified water a day fixes the problem.
Although I’ve yet to use MMS it is understandable that it could cause a release of toxins from the liver.
Jim Humble does state in his first book that you should take plenty of water when using MMS.
By: pt49 on November 13, 2007
at 1:35 pm
I started the protocol in the last week of Oct and have made it to the 15 drops and am now on 6 drops maintenance. At 4 drops I did upchuck and had 1 day of diarrhea after that I started to feel much better.
I am 74 yrs old and have had colon cancer and had Candida albacans for many years that I tried to get rid of. Well MMS got rid of it and feel better now than I have felt for 20 years. I had bad circulation in my legs and feet. That I think was from the fungus . As now that is all gone. This product is safe if you do as the protocol says to do. I will try to help people that need it as I bought 6 bottles from Canada. The biggest problem is getting people to believe that it will work. I will just keep trying to help them anyway.
By: Mel Smith on November 14, 2007
at 9:43 pm
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By: sar on November 16, 2007
at 8:51 am
Linda………..Here is my email address…tootles@aapt.net.au ……email me, and I will send you the Pesto recipe. It is easy to make, and delicious used on vegies and/or bread or just as you like. Three years ago, I was diagnosed with a right kidney growth (in the sinus of kidney). Doctors wanted to take my kidney out, but they did not give me enough evidence for doing this. I went to a Nutritionist/Herbalist and he said that the bore water that I had been drinking (that’s all the water we have where I live), had calcified my system. I was a vegan, non drinker/non smoker & no tea or coffee & very healthy person. I still have both kidneys and my blood pressure has gone down, and everybody tells me that I look so well. The herbalist said that it would take 5 years at least to gain my health back. I have only used good food and herbs prescribed by herbalist and no medications at all (was never on medications prior to this either), so now, I feel that I can use the MMS as well. I use the Pesto from time to time & have shared this with others who love it. Just shared this information with you, because I have always been healthy, and this illness came on me very suddenly & people who know me couldn’t understand why because of my healthy lifestyle. I use distilled water now. ……Carol
By: Carol on November 16, 2007
at 12:00 pm
I am curious, since you seem to understand chemistry;
1) How is MMS and ClO2 different from the action of the OH- ion generated with electrolysis of water that has also been shown to affect microbes and cancer cells?
2) If the chlorine dioxide is oxidizing the bad guys, aren’t there a lot of oxygen free radicals released that must then be neutralized before they damage healthy tissue?
3) Do you think the combination of ionized structured water with the OH- ion and the ClO2 would be an additive, synergistic approach to health problems?
By: marissastar on November 17, 2007
at 11:36 am
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By: MMS News: The Producing of a Guerilla Video Documentary « Thought for Food on November 18, 2007
at 11:37 am
This article (partial abstract here) suggests that oxidative damage is a major and common shared mechanism of action by which antibiotics kill pathogens and by inference lends credence to the use of MMS solution for induction of oxidative cellular reactions and potential pathogen death.
doi:10.1016/j.cell.2007.06.049
Article
A Common Mechanism of Cellular Death Induced by Bactericidal Antibiotics
Michael A. Kohanski1, 2, 5, 6, Daniel J. Dwyer1, 3, 6, Boris Hayete1, 4, Carolyn A. Lawrence1, 2 and James J. Collins1, 2, 3, 4, ,
Here we show that the three major classes of bactericidal antibiotics, regardless of drug-target interaction, stimulate the production of highly deleterious hydroxyl radicals in Gram-negative and Gram-positive bacteria, which ultimately contribute to cell death. We also show, in contrast, that bacteriostatic drugs do not produce hydroxyl radicals. We demonstrate that the mechanism of hydroxyl radical formation induced by bactericidal antibiotics is the end product of an oxidative damage cellular death pathway involving the tricarboxylic acid cycle, a transient depletion of NADH, destabilization of iron-sulfur clusters, and stimulation of the Fenton reaction….
By: BobK on November 18, 2007
at 5:31 pm
Where do I buy MMS. A FRIEND GAVE ME A SUPPLY WHICH I HAVE BROUGHT TO ME TO INDONESIA. MANY PEOPLE HERE NEED THIS AMAZING AND WONDERFUL SUPPLEMENT. WHERE DO I ORDER IT FOR INTERNATIONAL DELIVERY…..?????
By: Séa on November 22, 2007
at 4:34 pm
Séa… http://www.globallight.net ships to Indonesia.
By: phaelosopher on November 23, 2007
at 7:48 am
Regarding heavy metal chelation, Jim Humble commented to me that MMS will quickly chelate heavy metals. This indicates expectation of die off reactions of course. (In my experience, if you do experience nausea soon after an MMS dose, take 2-4mg vit C immediately to deactivate it and prevent vomiting – you can also add a few capsules of activated charcoal, then go down to the previous tolerable dose the next day)
After personally suffering from my own health crisis involving a broken amalgam, I tried Modifilan which did nothing for me. Some months later I was introduced to PCA-RX by Maxam Labs, which is far surpassing anything in the way of safe and effective chelation and is so easy to comply with, especially for children. After only on the product for 1 month, my incessant leg pain finally went away and I will be finishing a full 3 month detox when funds allow. I cannot emphasize how important I think it is for any adult to do a detox with PCA-Rx. And it of course is reported to eliminate autistic behaviors and even Parkinsons.
My opinion of MMS is that it is a very powerful quick acting molecule that has the potential to change the world and needs to be handled with great care by knowlegeable practitioners, especially with anyone having a urine pH of less than 7.5, which most of us likely are way below that with our modern convenience diets.
God Bless…
By: Your Friend in Natural Health on November 23, 2007
at 4:50 pm
I am taking TRAVATAN eye drops for glacuma, is this okay with MMS or will MMS think its a toxin and try to rid it.
Thanks,
By: Bruford on November 27, 2007
at 11:01 am
Do knowledgeable people think it is safe/O.K. to use MMS when you have artifical joints in your body?
By: Jeff Azkoul on December 2, 2007
at 10:49 am
Phaelosopher – Thanks for the great info! It seems like MMS could be such a huge gift to the world, it makes me wonder why I see no response to the post on 9/21/2007, when Dr Roger Taylor wrote: “A relative of mine is UN Representative in Malawi, and is much concerned with the serious health situation there. He could be instrumental in getting MMS into general use, but needs further evidence about the trials. Could phaelosopher tell me how I can find out where the trials were done. Which prison? Names of the doctors involved?
This would be a gift to humanity.”
My husband is also interested in trying to spread information about this in third world countries, largely on the basis of the reported phenomenal results accomplished in Malawi. He has tried to follow up on getting more detailed information on the Malawi trials , with no result.
Can you help?
By: Renee on December 8, 2007
at 11:51 am
Grass roots is the way to go. Internet and other personal communications.
Many suspect UN as being highly corrupt. And who could blame them? Look at UN’s WHO and their push for pandemic – their toxic vaccine agenda.
By: walter on September 21, 2009
at 10:15 am
I too, see no response to the post on 9/21/2007 and would like to know why!
By: Solarman on December 8, 2007
at 3:33 pm
Renee,
Jim Humble left a pretty clear audit trail of his travels to Africa in his first book, which is available for free via a pdf download. He indicates that he traveled to Malawi from February to April 2006, and lists the names and positions of responsibility of the people he interacted with. He names the medical hospital that he worked with (MARS). All of this and more is in his book, even photocopies of documents from the clinical trials. That’s the first place to start.
By: phaelosopher on December 8, 2007
at 9:36 pm
I’m very much interested in taking MMS (in fact cannot wait starting), but I realize that I have several crowns. One is a rather ol one, where the metal basis becomes visible.
Will MMS have a negative effect on my crowns? Can I use it or not?
My father has a pacemaker. What about that? Is it allowed to use MMS then.
Please let me know.
Winfried
By: winfried on December 14, 2007
at 4:41 am
Can people with an uncoated stent in an artery in
their heart safely use MMS ?
Thank you for any information.
sarah
By: sarah on December 17, 2007
at 7:37 pm
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By: keith thomas on December 18, 2007
at 1:59 pm
Hi Sara,
That’s a great question. I’ll be talking to an MD who uses MMS tomorrow, and pose it to him. As well as Winfried’s question about MMS and pacemakers. I’ll get back with you on this. Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 18, 2007
at 2:56 pm
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By: Taylore Vance on December 21, 2007
at 9:26 am
Special precautions must be employed in cases of glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase deficiency disease, as these patients are especially sensitive to oxidants of all kinds. Nevertheless, oral acidified sodium chlorite solutions might even be found safe and effective in them, but probably will need to be administered at lower doses.
Now this is why one must do their homework when fooling around with stuff like this! This may very well be a viable option to the medical establishment’s crap, but any alternate method should be checked thoroughly.
How many of you even KNOW if they have G6PD? I know I do.
By: Eddie on December 21, 2007
at 3:52 pm
I have a friend who after taking MMS for several weeks,noticed that her Already boderline blood pressure increased to high readings.She is not on any BP medication.
Can the Sodium Chloride in MMS be a factor?
Is there any contraindications on the use of MMS as in High blood pressure or other medications?
By: Rich Foltz on December 23, 2007
at 6:22 am
Rich, the following is my opinion, and should not be construed in any ways as advice.
To get any intelligent understanding about what is happening to your friend, more information would be helpful, and she should consult someone knowledgeable that can guide her through this. However, chlorine dioxide in the body does not “make” one’s blood pressure go higher. It’s probably going up before it goes down.
The proclivity for blood pressure to be borderline high, or go high, has to do with factors that took time to create, such as plaque buildup and blocked liver, kidney, gallbladder, or arterial passageways, and thick, poorly oxygenated blood, which make the heart have to work harder to get it through the system. They come as a result of eating nutritionally poor food (which is more a rule than the exception these days).
These factors point to a magnesium deficiency (which could be helped by magnesium chloride), a need for a liver or gallbladder flush, drinking lots of high alkaline water, and very likely other mineral and nutritional components that would stimulate the body’s full enzymatic response, that would naturally normalize blood pressure.
Chlorine dioxide does not provide these components. It does however, take away some of the residue, the garbage, that tends to build up in the body in the absence of enough mineral nourishment. However, it is not an end-all until itself.
On the other hand, it’s also very likely that the elevation in BP is temporary, and still should normalize with continued use. It is working on, and eliminating something that was already doing harm to her system.
By: phaelosopher on December 23, 2007
at 7:04 am
An alternative health practioner told me that ginger and tumeric — mixed half and half — take a 1/2 teaspoon morning and night will cause the blood to un-stick. Sticky blood could cause an elevation in BP.
I love this chloring dioxide. It has given life back to dozens of my friends and clients already. I’ve helped over 200 people already get the Miracle Mineral MMS.
I have some unique testimonials at the reikiranch blogspot and I’m interested in collecting even more. please come visit.
I’ve taken 12 bottles to Panama and they are very happy to try it because Dengue fever is running wild there.
By: Taylore Vance on January 9, 2008
at 4:34 pm
Hello…need info please. I have been on MMs for about 10 days. Started with one drop and increased one drop every dose. When I got to 7 drops, had extreme loose bowels that lasted for about 10 hours. Next dose I decreased a drop and was ok all the way up to 13 drops. then had extreme loose bowels and nausea for about 10 hours. Dropped back one drop to 12 and still experienced problems. Then went back another drop to 11 this morning and am astill having bad effects. can you offer any assistance? I don’t want to discontinue using the product, but am feeling real lousey. Thanks…..Myles
By: Myles on January 20, 2008
at 6:32 am
We are having incredible results from LSP. I had chronic sinusitis using prescription 15 years I now use LSP as nasal spray. Severe acid reflux gone in two days. Chronic addiction to food If I ate anything I would be more hungry after I finished eating. Now food addiction gone. I have tripled my energy levels using living streams probiotic! Dave livingstreamsprobiotic.biz
By: Dave on January 20, 2008
at 7:27 am
I would like to get the inventor of living streams probiotic on your talk show please contact me. livingstreamsprobiotic.biz
By: Dave on January 20, 2008
at 7:30 am
I am experiencing a large parasite traveling around my shoulder and head.
I have gone to doctors and their expensive lab
and office protocols. Of course I am back to
square one. I have had to endured a doctor
who says he is an ears nose and throat doctor
and he sends me to a brain doctor. I have gone
through hyperbaric oxygen…this doctor was featuring his nest with making me go through
40 treatments. He also forced me to take allergy
test (twice) and blood vile tests. I have not yet
received the test results for this experience. I
suppose I don’t have any allergies he can find to
make money off me for??????
I now refuse take home kits for parasites -the
dozen doctors sent it to wrong labs and refused to find the correct lab to find parasite results.
I tried to get a blood test for parasites and the last doctor acted like it was asking for the world
to end????
I know I have a monster in me but these doctors don’t want me to successfully get it out without
giving them all my money.
Will this work for me?????????????
I know I can loose weight once my head feels
better.
The last doctor told me I had no lyme disease
or co infections.
How I wish I can get off this vicious circle.
Will this stuff attack large parasites???????
By: New on January 21, 2008
at 2:22 pm
Question: Since Cl is a -1 charge and dioxide would be a -4 charge how would this solution accept 5 electrons? Would not it accept 5 protons from the pathogen?
By: Dave on January 23, 2008
at 10:12 am
Could you please explain how MMS can attack heavy metals. Since they are not organic – how can MMS destroy them?
By: Lin on January 23, 2008
at 4:30 pm
Re: my post on November 11.
I have received the book, Part II. Several times. Thank you, everyone who’s sent it!
No need for any more copies
)
Marko
By: marko on January 25, 2008
at 9:04 am
the parasites dont stand a chance, just take the mms and go for it. Have you read Jim’s book yet? People throwing up parasites. You betcha it will work.
My husband has cancer of the kidneys, bladder and lower spine (because his Dr did not get it all out via his prostate surgery years ago). We follow as much as possible a good natural hygiene diet and use whole food supplements. BUT MMS is working so fast. In one week his bone pain is gone, his stint in the kidney pain is gone. Yes a few feelings of vomiting but did not, that was only because the drops went too high when he counted them. Myself, I have lost foot pain from the 5th metatarsal, arthritic fingers easing up and bending better (its never been too bad). We are very happy with the results and get our supplies from Edmonton Canada.
By: Delayne on January 26, 2008
at 8:07 pm
Same thing as MMS but different name. Available in the UK from the following links:
Concentrated Air-Oxy Liquid by Health Aid
Available from the following links:
http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/body-soul/concentrated-air-oxy-liquid.asp
http://www.auravita.com/products/aura/phar17153.asp
http://www.zafash.com/moreinfo.asp?product_id=249
I am using this now and the results are the same as using MMS solution.
By: Vellum on January 29, 2008
at 12:11 am
Adam, you are doing a fantastic job !! Keep up the good work! And all of the supporters and commentors. I have a Health Care Friend who has been using MMS for a month with no reactions and has more energy than she has had in 70 years. Her brother 75 has had two healing crises ,but is doing well as have all of her clients on it. I just started it this week and am up to 7 drops with no reactions yet.
By: Dr. Charles on January 30, 2008
at 1:51 am
I am very curious about the mercury removal. You write that mercury gets evaporated.. “”Dislodging and vaporizing it will feel uncomfortable for a very short time compared to the time it took to accumulate.”" well, this sounds dangerous. If Mercury gets vaporized it can travel freely through th ebody and settle elsewhere, it could even cross the blood-brain barrier. But, I dont see how this simple chemical could make mercury vaporize. I get it that organic material gets broken down, but mercuray cannot be broken down, it is an element already so it stays mercury. It needs to be transported out of the body, but does CLO2 chelate? it is not stable or big enough for that I would think. chelate is envelop or drag some material as I understand it.
So, I evidently dont get it how mercury would be removed from the body by this.
apart from this question, I do have a positive effect, at least I think it is positive, I lost most of my appetite for unhealthy stuff. I actually crave cooked vegetables now. I cannot think of red meat or very fatty food anymore. the third day of using mms I only ate apples.
I do have a swollen abdomen nearly all the time though, and my faeces were much too alkaline. Over pH 8. I dont think that is healthy, I have looked it up, it may even be dangerous. Maybe this is due to the fact that in the netherlands another activator MMS ratio is used, simply 1 on 1. I have now started to increase the activator again.
Love, Anita
By: Anita on January 30, 2008
at 1:52 pm
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at 5:26 pm
I too am requesting information on using MMS with someone that has a pacemaker (my mother) and my husband has a pin in his shoulder and stainless steel dental crown. Is it safe for their situations? Personally, I’m having good results with it and would like to share it with my family but cannot until these questions are answered. Others have asked similar questions but I have not seen specific responses. I just don’t want to make their health situations worse.
Thanks,
Michele
By: michele on January 30, 2008
at 7:02 pm
Can I help out Lyn Adam,
Lyn, When MMS produces chlorine dioxide it’s oxidizing power is 2 1/2 time that of chlorine. It will oxize (gradualy eat away as chlorine dioxide is a hydron gas it will permiate even throuh glass) It will oxiize out of water, matals, minerals, phenols, magnisium, iron, ore and even cyanide.
ClO2 loves piping made of brass, copper or stainless steel, loves it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. ClO2 is not Ph dependent like most chemicals eg: Chlorine only woks if the water has a Ph between 6-8.5, outside that is is useless.
Clo2 works betwwn 2-12 and at it’s best between 6-10.
Hope this helps
Bruce.
By: Bruce Crighton on January 31, 2008
at 11:43 am
Thank you so much on your constant information on MMS. I have been taking MMS for two weeks now and the arthritis pain on my feet and shoulder has all but disappeared. I want to recomend this to my sister who has similar problems but she has breast implants. My question is like Michel’s, does the MMS destroy this foreign objects in your body too? That wold be a problem!
By: Mary on February 3, 2008
at 6:53 pm
Mary,
It’s wonderful to hear of your great results! People who have dentures, stents, artificial joints, metal screws, prosthetics, and other objects are all taking MMS with no difficulty. It’s considered a weak oxidizer, unlike ozone and hydrogen peroxide.
By: phaelosopher on February 4, 2008
at 2:31 pm
Are you aware of anyone using MMS in a colonic irrigation protocol? (Colema Board) If so, do you know how much MMS/citric acid may be added to two gallons of water?
By: C. Dan White on February 7, 2008
at 8:32 am
Dan,
I’m not aware of anyone using MMS in this way. I am aware of people who use ozone as a pathogen oxidizer option in their colon cleanses. MMS could certainly be used in this way as well. I’ll forward the question to Jim Humble, and see what he says.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on February 9, 2008
at 8:35 am
Somebody used MMS for Hepatitis C ? Any good results? If so please, give me details.
Thank you
Connie
By: Connie on February 11, 2008
at 9:50 pm
For a long time holistic medicine has stressed ANTIoxidants as one way to ensure good health. Now MMS comes along as a helpful oxidizer. I understand the benefits and basic chemistry of MMS, since I’ve read a lot about it. But I’m confused regarding the opposite nature of the traditional ANTIoxidant advice and the advice to use MMS – an oxidizer. It would seem like an antioxidant would neutralize the effect of an oxidant.
By: Rich Putman on February 13, 2008
at 5:03 am
Hi
I am new to all this but could not help noticing Stephen Schiller’s comment about antioxidants and Miracle Mineral doing the opposite so it must be bad for you. I think it is worthwhile remembering that the oxygen we breath is an oxidising agent as is ozone which is also used for sterilisation purposes amongst many other uses. The key as always is balance. In current modern society, it is impossible to escape from toxins. Over time therefore the body’s mechanisms for detoxification get overwhelmed, the immune system gets overstretched and we start to get sick according to our inherited genetic weaknesses. Anything therefore that helps the body rid itself of toxins is always welcome. You will notice in the Miracle Mineral protocol that you go up to a maximum, hold it for just a week then drop down to a much lower maintenance dose that is not too oxidising but at the same time continues to aid the immune system. So in fairness to Miracle Mineral, I think a balance is being struck. Do not forget that at the end of the day, it is your internal wisdom that should be leading you so learn to listen to it.
By: richard crabbe on February 13, 2008
at 10:53 pm
I am new to MMS, is it safe to use with saline or silicon breast implants?Would apprciate your comments.With Saline implants,sometimes mould or fungas can occur inside the implant and I have read that implants become septic after 2 years or so.Would MMS be safe to use ,or would the implant desintagrate?
By: Monika on February 16, 2008
at 9:55 pm
My concern is whether MMS is safe to use if one has cirrhosis of the liver. Since everything is processed through the liver, is this OK? Would the side effects be the same as I have read about or would they be more severe? Thanks.
By: susan on February 17, 2008
at 7:47 pm
I am indeed very interested in using MMS but would like you advice regarding the medication that I am currently on for diabetes. I also had a triple bypass in 2003 so am taking medication for that as well. My dream is to one day finish taking these drugs, however, my question is; Would it be safe to take MMS whilst taking these drugs. Please advise and thank you.
By: Pol on February 18, 2008
at 4:32 pm
I have a chronic hepatitis B.
By: YEMI on February 20, 2008
at 5:45 am
I have a hepatitis B. i WANT TO KNOW IF mms WILL BE HELPFUL FOR ME.
By: HENRY on February 20, 2008
at 5:46 am
Hi, from France,
I have bought MMS part 2 book. In the chapter “how to make MMS in your kitchen” can someone help me to convert the unities in french :
Ounces (uk, or US?), for instance what is the equivalent for 12,6 ounces ?…
Quarts (UK, US) dry or liquid? for instance what is the equivalent for 1 quart?…
Thank you
By: philipps on February 22, 2008
at 3:08 am
hello , my name is albert .
I have a host of nasty viruses and really would like to give the mms a shot but just cannot find a buisness phone number to order some .
I live in lillooet bc Canada .
I have a requisition to do blood work including virail loads and want to try this stuff first before the blood work .
so … can you send me a buisness ph.# ….Albert
By: Albert on February 22, 2008
at 3:17 pm
Albert here again ,
my e-mail is albertrat@hotmail.com
By: Albert on February 22, 2008
at 3:20 pm
Hi there, I started on MMS on 4 March (today is 7th) but I am finding all the protcols a bit confusing. I started on the Clara 6 x 6 and next day just took 6 drops. I experienced a bit of gastro on 6th and took 7 drops yesterday – lucky I am off work today because I have nausea and a lot of gastro – but then that is supposed to be good – getting rid of the bad stuff.. I have been off work with a virus and can’t tell if I feel better because of the gastro etc. Am I doing it wrong?
By: Jenny on March 6, 2008
at 2:39 pm
hello,i would like to ask the same question as marko did before and that is to receive the book part 2 because i want to help my friend who has cancer and we dont have that much money let alone a credit card so it is difficult to pay for the book online and i see no other way to receive part 2 to read and understand how to make the MMS ourself so that we can help my friend and others who he meets at talkgroups,at least maybe he can try to feel better after the chemo that he had a few times and the cancer keeps coming back so i realy want to try this as soon as possible so if anybody can help and sent me
part 2 of the book i would be very thankfull.
thank you very much four your help and effort.
regards
Henny Thijssen,Holland
By: henny thijssen on March 7, 2008
at 8:08 am
Henny, please let me know if anyone helped you. The cancer keeps coming back because the toxicity in his body has not been reduced or eliminated. In fact, the chemotherapy increases it.
By: phaelosopher on March 8, 2008
at 8:20 am
Jenny,
I’d suggest that you start with a single drop, once a day, and work your way up. Clara’s protocol was for a very specific situation. You’re not doing anything “wrong,” by going that route. Starting with a drop and moving up allows you to get into it a bit more gently, and cuts down the likelihood of “surprises.”
The approach you took will indeed work on the viruses, and much more. If there’s toxicity in you and the chlorine dioxide encounters it, then it’ll get oxidized. The nauseous feeling is one sign that it is working.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 8, 2008
at 8:26 am
To a fellow lightworker — way to go! My background is media also, and I love it when it’s used to benefit people. Do you do just health? If you’re interested in UFO type things, go to (www.paoweb.com) and meet Sheldan Nidle, if you are not already aware of his work! It’s SOOooo interesting to talk with someone who has been on the mother ships etc.—in fact since a child, he and his sister have visited our off-world friends.
Oh yes, I’m taking the MMS for tendonitis….don’t know what the results are yet.
Blessings, Rev. Dot
By: Dot Schaefer on March 8, 2008
at 11:03 am
I have been on MMS for a few weeks now, up to 15 drops twice a day and feel like crap. I have Hepatitis C and got nausea at 7 and 8 drops but moved past that, so I’m trying the 15 twice a day until I move past the nausea then will go 3 times a day…
Honestly, I am beginning to have some major doubts here as I don’t see any improvement in my condition except feeling nausea and had some diarrhea this morning (the 1st time)
I still have my Hep C symptoms, fatigue and pain in my upper right side…
How many people with Hep C have actually cleared the virus with this?
Humble claims it will CURE Aids and Hep C…who where and when..?
Like I said I am beginning to have some serious doubts and wonder if this is a load of BS…
Howie
By: Howie on March 11, 2008
at 7:55 pm
I would like to hear a response to Susans question,”Since everything is processed through the liver, is this OK?”
I’m putting this through my damaged liver twice a day now and am beginning to wonder is this stuff gonna damage it more..?
I put in a email to Humble..he does not respond..
Howie
By: Howie on March 11, 2008
at 8:00 pm
From Humbles book:
“One lady with hepatitis C did just what I told her not to do. Instead of taking two drops at first, she wanted to be certain that she killed it. She took 30 drops, added the vinegar, waited three minutes and added it to apple juice. It made her sick for three days. She then put the MMS aside and did not touch it for eight months. She thought because it made her so sick that it didn’t work, but when she finally decided to go to the doctor he could find no hepatitis in her body. Both were amazed. I have given it to many people with one of the hepatitis diseases A, B, or C. I can guarantee that 30 drops will make any hepatitis patient feel very sick, but it will also cure them. However, that is not the way to do it. A hepatitis patient should never start out with more than two drops. In that case, normally they
See Chapter 8, page 15 for data on obtaining MMS.
Understanding the Miracle Mineral Supplement Chapter 9 Page 8 The miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century will not feel any nausea, and if they keep slowly increasing the drops until they can take 15 drops twice a day without nausea, they will check negative to hepatitis of all kinds.”
I would love to see the names of these people and some testimonials and method of confirming.
Howie
By: Howie on March 11, 2008
at 10:25 pm
“I can guarantee that 30 drops will make any hepatitis patient feel very sick, but it will also cure them.”
Mighty strong words there!
Howie
By: Howie on March 11, 2008
at 10:36 pm
I been taking 30 drops a day for about a week now and I KNOW I am not cured Mr. Humble…
Howie
By: Howie on March 12, 2008
at 10:39 pm
Howie,
I don’t know how long it took for you to get Hep, but it’s going to take YOU as long as it takes in order to get rid of it. I’ll bet it took more than a week to compromise your immune system enough to let the virus over grow.
Humble didn’t guarantee that anyone would be “cured” in a week. I’ve read accounts of people who did get rid of Hep C. They stuck with it until it was gone. Simple as that, without blaming anyone for not getting it done instantly.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 13, 2008
at 5:31 am
Howie again,
Getting the names of people mentioned in Humble’s book won’t get rid of your Hep C. It’s likely you’re dealing with far more than Hep C. Chlorine dioxide (MMS) will address — oxidize — ALL of it — organic microorganisms and inorganic toxins, and heavy metals; even stuff that you may be unaware of, without harming healthy, well oxygenated cells.
If you understand how chlorine dioxide can work to help you lower the pathogen overgrowth levels in *your* body — of which Hep C is the only viral or bacterial agent you’re focusing on — then you’d simply stick with it until you get the results you say that you’re after.
Then other skeptics, doubters, and mis-informed people will be demanding your name before they go ahead and use it, but they still won’t see any change in their condition until they do it themselves.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 13, 2008
at 5:41 am
Howie,
As for your liver, chlorine dioxide will damage what has already damaged your liver, meaning the overgrowth of harmful microorganisms that you have nurtured by your behavior and thinking habits.
Your doubts in the face of the simple evidence of its efficacy in this application, are doing you more damage than MMS/chlorine dioxide ever could.
You don’t have to use it. You don’t even have to believe that it will work *for you*. But it’s working for too many people — people committed to reducing their body’s toxicity — to be dismissed as “BS”, and still be considered intelligent.
Doctors are now buying MMS and starting to use it in their practices, and on themselves. They are LEARNING how to use it wisely, because their profession hasn’t embraced it yet, and they weren’t taught about this in school. We’re ALL learning, but first one has to have an open mind, and leave the attitude at the door when they enter this “New School.”
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 13, 2008
at 5:49 am
Hey Rev. Dot!
Thanks for dropping by! I’ll check it out! I don’t do just physical health. I’m interested in the health of the whole being.
That’ll be a great subject for my radio show, and to write about!
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 13, 2008
at 5:52 am
A slim volume on MMS jumped out at me the other day at the store and I grabbed it, before finding your posts here, I may not have known enough.
If you have a certain kind of faith, you learn miracles are not miracles because with faith they are expected events.
Namaste and peace to you for your willingness to help others.
By: SurfaceEarth on March 13, 2008
at 4:14 pm
Thanks for your response Adam…
I’m sorry if I came off uptight, I’m going to continue with the MMS, I really just started freaking out with the nausea and fear set in,
feeling better today a bit..I have a hard time taking it on an empty stomach with the higher dosage.
I’m still not ready for 15 drops 3 times a day yet,
your words made sense to me and calmed my fears…I guess I’m tired of my liver being in pain and want my life back…
Thanks,
Howie
By: Howie on March 13, 2008
at 10:44 pm
hey Howie! keep up the good work and good luck to you… chronic pain can be very debilitating and might make the nicest person uptight and impatient! pls keep us informed if it’s working for you. i am quite curious…
nadine
By: nadine on March 14, 2008
at 1:44 am
Howie,
I understand the feeling, the frustration, and the fear. I’m pleased that the courageous and human side of you emerged, because the power to be well again comes from and through that part of you.
Truth is, we don’t need MMS to be well again. However, it is a safe and effective way to move back to that place of balance; biologically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. Getting all of those “pieces” aligned will make magic happen right where we are.
Best wishes always, and have faith in yourself. You already have the power. Use it wisely.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 14, 2008
at 7:06 am
Was really nauseous this morning again…
Nausea is one of the main symptoms of Hep C you know and to exasperate that with MMS is not fun to deal with…
Should I continue with the 15 drops twice a day until I move past the nausea? and is it ok to take after breakfast? At night I seem to be ok although for the past 2 nights I have had acid stomach.
Any ideas on the best times to take it to avoid nausea..?
namaste,
Howie
By: Howie on March 14, 2008
at 3:24 pm
Hi Adam,
Great job, what you’re doing. Just ordered MMS from the Australian supplier and can’t wait to try it when it arrives. Sent Mr. Humble a couple of questions but have yet to receive a reply. Perhaps he’s very busy and perhaps you can help me. My husband has Lou Gehrig’s and my questions are :
- has anyone with Lou Gehrig’s tried MMS? and what was the outcome pls? As you might have heard or read, there has been speculation that Lou Gehrig’s might have been triggered by some mirco-organisms or parasites.
- can he continue to take his health supplements while on MMS eg. B-complex, grapeseed extract, vit-c, silymarin, burdock root, omega 3-6-9?
- is it ok to take MMS on an empty stomach? Should it be taken before, after or with food?
- I noticed that the people in Africa were using plastic cups to prepare MMS. Is it ok to use plastic or must it strictly be glass (just in case we forget to bring our own glass when we’re out and there’re only plastic tumblers around).
Thanks and God Bless!
Pauline
By: Pauline on March 16, 2008
at 3:59 am
Hi again Adam,
Oops…..I just saw your other blog (MMS and cancer) and read that it’s best taken on an empty stomach.
Hope you can help answer my other questions.
Thanks
Pauline
By: Pauline on March 16, 2008
at 4:23 am
If you take it on an empty stomach how long should you wait before you eat….
Howie
By: Howie on March 16, 2008
at 2:27 pm
Howie,
If you take it on an empty stomach, you should give yourself at least an hour before eating.
By: phaelosopher on March 16, 2008
at 2:46 pm
Hi Adam,
Thanks for the above info re waiting an hour before eating.
Would appreciate if you will kindly answer my three other questions as I’m quite new to this MMS.
Thanks and God Bless
Pauline
By: Pauline Goh on March 17, 2008
at 5:18 am
Great job, what you’re doing. Just ordered MMS from the Australian supplier and can’t wait to try it when it arrives. Sent Mr. Humble a couple of questions but have yet to receive a reply. Perhaps he’s very busy and perhaps you can help me. My husband has Lou Gehrig’s and my questions are :
- has anyone with Lou Gehrig’s tried MMS?
I’m not aware of any reports from people with ALS using MMS. I believe it should be helpful, but have no cases to point to.
As you might have heard or read, there has been speculation that Lou Gehrig’s might have been triggered by some mirco-organisms or parasites.
I agree. It makes perfect sense today, and wasn’t apparent in Lou Gehrig’s day.
- can he continue to take his health supplements while on MMS eg. B-complex, grapeseed extract, vit-c, silymarin, burdock root, omega 3-6-9?
Chlorine dioxide does not react to anything that is in the pH range of 7 and above.
With the exception of the Vitamin C, which if taken in large amounts, would “deactivate” chlorine dioxide generation, it shouldn’t affect, or be affected by any of the others that you’ve listed.
- is it ok to take MMS on an empty stomach?
Yes, and preferred. You’ll get far grater “bang” for the drop.
- Should it be taken before, after or with food?
The emptier the stomach, the better. If you’ve eaten, give yourself as much time as possible. You’ll have to tailor the specifics to your particular lifestyle.
- I noticed that the people in Africa were using plastic cups to prepare MMS. Is it ok to use plastic or must it strictly be glass (just in case we forget to bring our own glass when we’re out and there’re only plastic tumblers around).
I’m not aware of any glass mandate. Even the solution itself comes in a plastic bottle. I wouldn’t be too concerned about that.
By: phaelosopher on March 17, 2008
at 10:27 am
Thanks a million for your response Adam!
By: Pauline on March 17, 2008
at 2:48 pm
hiya,
i just wanted to share my brief experience with mms.
my mom gave me a bottle a while ago and i never doubted its potential after reading parts of Jim Humble’s book….but there it sat in my cubbard.
untill I got sick….of course…
I got a variation of strep that attacks the body with painful red bumps along bone areas. Now I had this one other time years ago and this thing lasted several weeks with the bumps fading into all sorts of shades of colors like a bruise. More recently my daughter had the same thing, same senario….we gave her antibiotics because we were at a loss of what to do.
well when I noticed the 2 bumps one night I was like oh shoot! Husband said call a doctor if you wake up in the morning and there are more. So woke up I was feeling like garbage and there was another couple bumps…..so I pulled out the mms, gave my seflf 5 drops, and then started the kids on them too as a preventive, didn’t want them sick as well.
an hour later I talked to my mom and she suggested an enema with mms in the water, definately TMI but…I did with 20 drops of mms. I went through 4 hrs of being on the toilet, feeling like throwing up, shaking yuck. But after all that I was done. I felt good , the next day felt even better the bumps were still there but none new. was also taking 5 drop shots 3 times a day , the day after the bumps were gone….none of the awful bruises. I was better….amazing…..I love this stuff!
Oh yeah a side note my kids who were taking it as a precautionary, well the one apparently doesn’t like grape juice so hasn’t really taken any mms has gotten sick….the other one has been taking it….she hasn’t gotten sick.
(sorry this was so long)
By: penny on March 17, 2008
at 8:22 pm
does it tend to make you tired? i am very tired since starting it.
By: sigrid on March 19, 2008
at 10:27 am
Sigrid,
What you interpret as feeling “tired” may simply be the body needing *you* to sleep while it begins repairing the areas that had been affected by the toxicity that the MMS has oxidized and flushed out.
This should be temporary.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 19, 2008
at 10:37 am
Penny,
GREAT NEWS is NEVER too long! Thanks for sharing!
Also, try pomegranate juice. It tastes good and masks the taste of the MMS almost completely!
A~
By: phaelosopher on March 19, 2008
at 10:39 am
Hi!
I just ordered MMS for the first time. Question: is it safe to take it even if you have a bunch of yes, amalgams and dental implants, etc in your mouth or will they be affected because of it? I really can’t afford to have them replaced on many levels.
Thanks!
By: kit on March 19, 2008
at 8:33 pm
Ok, I will try just one drop and go from there, I do still believe in this..
to dot schaeffer – get off that website and go to http://www.projectcamelot and stuff by Henry Deacon – get real….
To all those trying this, keep at it – deep down I know this will work.
Thank you for your reply Adam.
By: Jenny on March 20, 2008
at 1:09 pm
Kit,
I understand your situation. Chlorine dioxide doesn’t oxidize the metal in your mouth. It may oxidize the gases that they give off, which get deposited in your tissues, but not the objects themselves. I have amalgams, implants, and a prosthesis in my mouth and none of them have been affected by MMS intake.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 21, 2008
at 5:20 am
Surface!
Thank you for your always welcome well wishes. We have much to learn, not only about MMS, but about ourselves.
Best wishes always.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 21, 2008
at 5:23 am
Hi Adam,
I’ve been on MMS now for a month…am up to 13 drops and heading towards 15.
I have a question about Vitamn C.. and that is… is it ok to take Vit. C from an “Ascorbate” source as opposed to ascorbic acid source ?
The Ascorbate is a buffered C..and wondered if it had the same effect that Ascorbic did.
thanks again Adam
Clint
By: Clint on March 22, 2008
at 4:18 pm
I can’t help but to be very sceptical. If this thing works so well and has cured so many ppl all over the world, how come it is not more known?
Medias should be all over this?
By: Mette on March 23, 2008
at 5:41 am
Dear Mette:
Am not sure how old you are, but…. obviously you haven’t read about Ozone, or Royal Raymond Rife…or a few other treatments that have been put to sleep by the FDA, and AMA so they can keep making Billions from people being sick.
Something as simple as Miracle Mineral Solution would make them lose SO much money….do you really think they are going to support it ?
Very much like the car that strolled off the auto assembly line that got over 100 miles per gallon, WHY didn’t we hear about that car more, and why isn’t every car modeled after that one…. catching my drift ?
I’m sure your a very smart person, but you can’t be that naive to think that MMS is going to be supported by the Media, and the FDA…. do you ?
Clint
By: Clint on March 23, 2008
at 6:57 am
Mette,
In reply to your post. All over the world people believe in doctors/medical practitioner and pharmaceutical companies. A lot of people dont believe in this MMS really until they try it. When people try it they found out is amazing. All big companies dont want it to be sell to everyone because they make money from you when you are sick. Doctors all over the world are using MMS but they wont tell you. Thanks to Jim humble who discovered MMS. If I am rich I will give him $4million for this discovery.
I never heard of MMS until I search internet one day and found MMS.
My pain is almost gone and my chronic sinus is gone after just one week of use. I cant believe it.
MMS is amazing and great discovery of our time. You better try it or doctors take way your money and doctors will not cure you but treat you.
Thanks
Henry
By: Henry on March 23, 2008
at 6:58 am
I have been using MMS for one week now and have not experience any nausea or vomit or any symptoms. I started with one drop and now I am on 12 drops two times a day.
Does that means MMS is not working in me.
I dont understand. Can anyone help me please
By: Henry on March 23, 2008
at 7:06 am
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By: MMS DVD Price Change and Book Plans « Thought for Food on March 23, 2008
at 7:13 am
Well, you had said in an earlier post Henry, that.. “My pain is almost gone and my chronic sinus is gone after just one week of use. I cant believe it.”…
So, I guess from that statement..it must be doing something . . . right ?
Clint
By: Clint on March 23, 2008
at 7:16 am
Hello Adam, thank you very much for all you do. I am currantly taking MMS and am up to 11 drops. It has been a rocky road at times as I am dealing with Lyme. Diahrea, nausea, cramps…you name it. I am suffering but I am happy! I am finally receiving help. My bizarre symptoms are obviously diminishing.
The reason I am writing you is that I would like to bring MMS to the Brazilian Amazon and educate designated people there on how to treat Malaria. What would be the best way to get enough MMS to this region? I have ordered Jim Humbles book a while ago but not received anything. Maybe there is advice to be found in there and maybe not. Thank you again. Susanne
By: Susanne on March 23, 2008
at 1:00 pm
Hello Adam,
I have been using MMS for the past three days but no side effect. I want to know if MMS is working
seyi
By: seyi on March 23, 2008
at 5:21 pm
Hi Seyi:
I can answer your question for Adam….
When you start taking the MMS, you first want to find out at what point you start to experience Nausea… some experience it at 4 drop..some at 10 drops..some at 12……
My advice is keep taking it until you hit your Nausea threshold, and stay there a day or 2, and then increase the drops per day again.
You know it’s working when you first experience a little nausea… and it is at that point you need to not quit the MMS, but keep taking it…then when the nausea goes away…. start to increase the drops to 15 drops….at a time.
Hope this helps,
Clint
By: Clint on March 23, 2008
at 7:09 pm
Hi, I’ve just started taking MMS the last couple of days and was hoping it will improve my asthma.
To cut a long story short, in the beginning of the year I had a severe asthma attack and was lucky I wasn’t carried out of hospital in a box.
What I would sincerely like to know is is there anyone else out there who have had asthma and can say that MMS has (for want of a better word) cured their asthma? How long did it take?
I did read that it will take persistence with asthma….but God only knows I don’t have any patience!! LOL
Asthma is really affecting my life now to the point that I can’t function properly.
Can anyone help?
Thank you
Rita
By: Rita on March 23, 2008
at 8:15 pm
Rita,
I wrote about a woman recently who took MMS for melanoma, which caused it to begin to begin shrinking. One of the residual effects was that she noticed a marked improvement in her breathing. Although she had not mentioned it to me, she has had asthma for many years. My documentary explains how chlorine dioxide breaks down “biofilm” that certain bacteria will produce and live in. We recognize it as mucous. They colonize within it and are protected from antibacterials.
Chlorine dioxide breaks down the biofilm, and then oxidizes the colony.
No one can tell how quickly you can get rid of your asthma with this protocol. Your choice is best served by understanding how it works, and whether it would be safe and effective on you, and then using it to determine for yourself.
I will say this: it will take a lot LESS time to rid yourself of the mucous than it did accumulating it. In addition, the chlorine dioxide will oxidize pathogens in any part of your body, and address toxicity issues that you may not even know you have.
Best wisehs,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 24, 2008
at 5:49 am
Hey Clint, thanks for helping Seyi!
I would only add that each individual is *individual*. I’ve spoken to people who took 30 and 40 drops before they had a “reaction” — meaning noticeable evidence of toxic oxidation.
That nauseous feeling is noticeable evidence, as is diarrhea, vomiting, and also distinctly different stool samples. Make absolutely sure you are well hydrated, as your stools can vary widely in terms of hardness, as well as what’s in it, from parasites and their eggs, to “ancient waste products,” etc.
It depends on the individual, what their situation is, how acute it is, where its located, and how RESOLUTE the individual is to “get ‘r done!.”
But if you continue, as Clint suggested, you’ll find the point where YOU notice that it’s working, and then when you actually begin releasing toxicity.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 24, 2008
at 5:58 am
Susanne,
Congratulations on your progress. I would also suggest that you exercise VISUALIZING your body — on a cellular level — free of the imbalance that the microorganisms are causing. See your blood cells as whole and well oxygenated. Taking MMS is an active step that you’re taking, but you have the power to actively give your body and cellular structure the energy that these areas have been in need of.
I will forward your post to Jim Humble and get his thoughts on how to go about making the introduction into Brazil, and inquire about the status of our book. Best wishes.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 24, 2008
at 6:00 am
Henry,
One of the other possibilities… when it seems to be taking more time than “normal” to see a noticeable response in your body to MMS, is blockage or obstruction in the liver, gallbladder, or kidney. In this case, the chlorine dioxide has to break down what’s being encountered there before you see or feel a noticeable result. On the other hand, if your body is already in perfect balance, you’ll have no reaction to taking MMS whatsoever. If I knew that there should be some toxicity to release in my body, I would gradually continue taking MMS, and also look into a liver or gallbladder flush.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 24, 2008
at 6:11 am
Hey Adam,
I had asked tis question earlier… and didn’t get a response… was hoping yu might solve this mystery…
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I have a question about Vitamn C.. and that is… is it ok to take Vit. C from an “Ascorbate” source as opposed to ascorbic acid source ?
The Ascorbate is a buffered C..and wondered if it had the same effect that Ascorbic did.
thanks again Adam
Clint
By: Clint on March 24, 2008
at 7:51 am
Clint, I’ve passed your question on to Jim. I don’t know the answer, and won’t venture a guess.
Here is his response:
Guess we need to do more research.
Thanks again.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 24, 2008
at 8:24 pm
Hi Adam,
Can you help me with any food or substance that can help clean the toxicity in the body or to soften stool please
seyi
By: seyi on March 25, 2008
at 6:00 am
Seyi,
I’m sure readers may have other suggestions, but magnesium chloride, which naturally occurs in liquid form and can be taken through the skin by soaking your feet in a footbath (with 1-2 oz) or a regular bath (4-6 oz), is an excellent way to replenish the body of this vital mineral.
Chronic constipation is an indication that magnesium levels need replenishing (among other things).
Magnesium is *food* to the body at cellular levels. If it is not on our foods (which it isn’t, in sufficient supply because it’s processed out, or not in the soil), we are malnourished (often overweight), and unable to maintain our health.
Also, hydrate your body by drinking loads of alkaline water.
While it is not a nutrient, MMS — chlorine dioxide — will help reduce the toxin-producing microorganisms in your body, as well as neutralize toxic deposits that are encountered, and the body will naturally attempt to flush the residue out immediately. It does this through diarrhea and in some cases, vomiting. They will also come out in the stool.
While the body doesn’t “need” MMS, but can benefit from its use, it does need a sufficient amount of magnesium to either maintain or restore health.
Hope this is helpful.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on March 25, 2008
at 6:17 am
Thanks Adam,
I appreciate you contacting Jim !
Clint
By: Clint on March 25, 2008
at 3:20 pm
Thank you Adam!
I appreciate your empathetic response!
By: kit on March 25, 2008
at 8:02 pm
Hi Adam,
I have a question regarding MMS IV’s ….
In PDF#2, Chapter #13, it talks about adding the MMS into 20 ml of Sterile injection fluid… would this be Saline Solution ?
And also, is citric acid used as an activator ? I know in your DVD, I saw Jim use 2 drops of MMS, and 5 drops of Citric Acid…then, was all that put into a Saline Solution…then dripped in to the vein.
Please let me know a starting dose, and what the recipe is…thanks.
sincerely,
Clint
By: Clint on March 26, 2008
at 10:50 pm
Does anyone know someone who used this with success for fibromyalgia?
By: vince on March 28, 2008
at 2:25 am
Hi, There is a lady in the “HUMANA” office in Zephyrhills Fl that I introduced to MMS 2 weeks ago. She has fibro, problems in the BR and trouble with waking up in the night and tossing/turning unable to get back to sleep. After a few days she had no more probs in the BR and sleeping. She told me she sleeps like a pig now and her fibro has almost gone.
This is after ONLY 2 weeks time. She swears by this product (MMS) and tells all who will listen just good good it is. My daughter also was diagnosed with MS and came to me crying. I started her on MMS and after 17 days she returned to her Dr and after an exam he could find NO trace of MS. She is another believer of MMS and tells everyone about it.
Hope this helps..
By: Bobby on August 27, 2009
at 10:41 am
How wonderful for your friend and your daughter! Good job! I am curious about how soon after your daughter’s diagnosis you started her on MMS, and how much she was taking (# drops, how many times a day). We have neighbours whose daughter was diagnosed last summer. many thanks,
Julie
By: CdnFarmgirl on August 27, 2009
at 4:15 pm
Hi Adam,
I want to know if it is better to add grape juice after one drops of sodium chlorite and citric acid has dissolve for three minutes. I noticed that when water is added to chlorine dioxide Chlorite is formed.
Thanks
yemi
By: yemi on March 28, 2008
at 11:16 pm
the magnesium you talked about, does it have to be chloride or is magnesium aspartate fine too?
By: nadine on March 30, 2008
at 1:22 am
Another question about asthma:
I’ve been told by another sufferer that you should be careful in taking products that increase your immune system as this can trigger an asthma attack.
I’ve spoken to a couple of naturopaths and they have given me conflicting answers. One says that taking immune-building products is of benefit, and the other says DO NOT take products that have that effect as it can potentially give you an asthma attack.
From what I have read, MMS increases your immune system…..so I don’t want to be putting myself in some sort of potential harm.
Can anyone help
Thank you in advance
Rita
By: Rita on March 30, 2008
at 3:32 pm
Rita,
MMS does not cause asthma attack. It only give a relieve/ease of life to immune system. The naturopaths are not happy for you to use MMS.
The naturopath telling you this is a big fool. Dont you know that MMS is safe than chlorine we consume everyday. As long you dont take too much of MMS it is fine.
Hope this helps.
Seyi
By: seyi on March 30, 2008
at 3:59 pm
I started to take MMS about 5 months ago in hopes for help with my asthma! I suppose I jumped in and took too much too quick and developed a itchy eye then a goopy clear eye discharge and later small lesions on one eye lid that had a sticky clear discharge. I stopped the MMS for several weeks and let it all clear up. I started again but on a small dose this time (not completely certain it was the MMS) and am starting to have the same eye issues again. Has anyone else experienced this and what do you think it means?
Has anyone else had good results with MMS and asthma?
Can anyone tell me about their experience with MMS and Candida?
Thanks
By: Kim on March 31, 2008
at 11:41 am
Are there any supplements that should not be taken with MMS?
By: Kim on March 31, 2008
at 1:38 pm
Kim:
Can you give any details as to how many drops you started with ? How you progressed drops wise ?…and how many drops a day you were at when you stopped the first time ?
Also, Vitamin C should NOT be taken with MMS, as it makes it inactive.
C
By: Clint on March 31, 2008
at 9:35 pm
The first time I started with 4 drops and worked up to 6 quickly. I did feel some nausea a few times and started taking it at bed time instead of in the morning. I stayed on 6 drops at night for a few weeks and then added 6 to my morning routine. I began waking up with puffy eyes and but nothing else. Within a few months I was up to 14 drops at night only. Then I was waking with slime in my eyes. I then split the drops to 8 in the morn and 8 at night. This was over a 5 month period. I do not take any Vit C with it and only buy real pineapple juice with no additives for my mix. I did not do well with the vinegar activation (vinegar really causes me to feel tight in the chest and wheezy) so I use the citric acid solution. I do take an iodine supplement for my thyroid and for hot flashes and I know this will cause some mucus if I get too much but it wasn’t the same. My eye would get real itchy and a sticky, clear substance was constantly in mostly my left eye. Then lesions appeared on my eye lid and they seemed to secrete the same sticky discharge. I tried backing off the drops but it did not seem to help so I stopped and it cleared up completely in about 2 weeks. Then I got the most terrible flu lasting about 3 weeks and immediately kicked my asthma in–nearly put me in the hospital. After only a partial recovery from the flu I started on 6 drops last week again! And., similar eye puffiness and slime started. I am now taking 2 drops in the morn and 2 at night and hope it will back off so I can gradually build up.
I have bad asthma and allergies. I have been fighting to stay off of antibiotics and steroids. And, these combinations of modern medicine have made me gain weight in the mid section–unusual and very unhealthy weight. No matter what I do I cannot get rid of it. I have been working with a natural doctor for a few years but he is 3 1/2 hours away and it is just expensive and honestly I was better but had not achieved complete success. I am looking for a solution to all of these problems. I am on a wheat free, dairy free diet and a fist full of natural supplements 4 times a day!
By: Kim on April 1, 2008
at 7:47 am
Kim:
To weird…. I think I might have a little of that too…although I have to say, that mine are mostly from Allergies this time of year (am in Houston) …and the Pollen count is off the charts.
My eyes have been weeping though, and crusty when I awake in the am….but I never stopped taking the MMS…and am up to 15 drops, 3x’s a day..but mostly 2x’s a day.
You might try easing off, like you doing..and them resuming once you feel better…and makijng it up to 15 drops 2x’s a day….
I do wonder if you have Allergies going on with you, the same as I have going on….sneezing, watery eyes…. feeling foggy, etc…
Is your colon moving 2-3 x’s a day ? You drinking lotsa water ?
Clint
By: Clint on April 1, 2008
at 11:27 pm
Hi, anyone using this for CFS/Fibromyalgia. I got upto 15 drops 3 x per day but nearly died. Couldn’t eat at all, just vomiting everytime. Same too with drinking water, I’d just drink then a minute later puke up. I had to stop taking MMS. My fingers and feet are worse than ever, twitching muscles too. I’m real worried in case I’ve done more harm than good. Any thoughts advice?
By: John on April 2, 2008
at 4:52 am
Hey John,
I’d dial the MMS back if you’re pukin’ just by looking at it. How long did it take you to go to 15 x 3?
In these amounts, the chlorine dioxide isn’t harming anything. However, I’m going to tell you that the reasons for our body’s responses aren’t always physical, they are also mental/spiritual.
Please ask yourself — deeply and earnestly — are you ready to follow your heart’s dream? Are you willing to let go of shackles that you created to keep yourself down? Are you ready to create a new life story? Are you ready to be your most courageous YOU?
I don’t know your story, or the *benefits* you’ve gained from manifesting this condition, but you’re taking steps that can change it that won’t kill you, but will remove the pathogens and poisons that are.
The conversation is between you and yourself. But depending on your heart-felt answer, your body will change its response to the MMS.
If you have NO RESERVATIONS about being well again, and WILL ACCEPT NOTHING BUT WELL-BEING again, ask your body what IT needs to accomplish your goal, because YOUR TRUE GOAL, IS ITS GOAL. It will tell you how many drops are adequate, and it will continue releasing toxins, as it has already done. Also be certain to add more water, and even eat an apple to help absorb the elevated toxin levels that are generated as pathogens are oxidized.
Your body is attempting to be true to its understanding of your CURRENT goals. Let it know that YOU have changed, by picturing… VISUALIZING, and FEELING yourself pain free once again, FEELING the joy and excitement of being FREE to follow your heart’s wishes, and CREATE the life you’ve not permitted yourself to live, because you THOUGHT you couldn’t.
I don’t have to know what this is, but YOU DO.
[Just MY opinion, but thank you for the question. You CAN be well again.]
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 2, 2008
at 5:29 am
Nadine,
I’m not aware of magnesium aspartate being in liquid form. Magnesium needs another element to bind with in order to achieve motility. It naturally occurs as a liquid when it binds with chloride. As a liquid, it can enter the body through the skin, bypassing the digestive track, getting into the bloodstream faster, and delivered to the point of need in greater concentrations.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 2, 2008
at 6:22 am
Vince,
I asked Jim about fibromyalgia in our latest interview.
Use this link to listen:
http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/category/4/14/33/
It will be the only show with Jim Humble, and on this list for 10 weeks.
For anyone reading this post who finds no Jim Humble interview, please email me, as I will have moved the podcast to another location.
By: phaelosopher on April 2, 2008
at 6:25 am
I have been taking the drops strictly with water and am almost at 15. Sorry if this has been covered, but once it has been activated, can you please list what I can use besides water? The smell/taste is requiring more than just water now. I have to leave the room even while it’s activating now. Thank you!
By: Sigrid on April 2, 2008
at 6:43 am
Some encouragement for those with fibromyalgia, I am now saying I USED to have it, as well as chronic fatigue syndrome and Epstein Barr Virus. I am not up to 15 drop yet, but since starting treatment I have been able to stop taking 8 Rx pills a day which is SO nice!! At some point early on, my fibro aches flared up but went away the next day. With the fibro, I used to go to the chiropractor 4x per week, now I only go 1 x per month. I also used to go to bed very early and take a nap during the day, but now I’m staying up until at least 12:30 am with no nap after going strong all day. I don’t have the “fibro fog” anymore. I used to have trouble processing what people were telling me but that’s gone now. I’m determined to continue with the drops and keep thinking of all the good stuff that’s coming after the bad taste!!!
By: Sigrid on April 2, 2008
at 7:53 am
What are the benefits of using MMS before getting pregnant? Can it be used during pregnancy?
By: Shanti on April 2, 2008
at 1:08 pm
Hi Shanti,
The benefits of using MMS before getting pregnant is reducing presence of pathogens, therefore decreasing the likelihood of passing them, organic or inorganic, into the fetus.
The fetus is formed out of the tissues that make up your body, and most likely, will also share the chemical composition that you, the host (mother) have during its gestation.
Simply put, the clearer your body is of chemical or microbial toxicity, the better.
Since the research is new in this area, I can only offer an opinion.
The chlorine dioxide itself does not act on healthy cells, tissues, or aerobic microorganism, and breaks down into small amount of salt and water, so I see no reason to be concerned about using it, either before pregnancy, during, or after, given the benefits that it makes possible.
Yet, I would be most inclined ensure that my body is balanced (chemically) and pathogen free as possible before hand. Then there’d be little reason to use it during pregnancy.
However, for pregnant women who have learned that they are already toxic, or who have addictions to various drugs, I believe taking MMS is, and would be an effective way to reduce the chemical residue that they would be transferring to the fetus.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 3, 2008
at 6:43 am
Sigrid,
Congratulations!!!!
As for the taste, I hope you’re experimenting with various juices. MMS is actually tasty when used with cherry or pomegranate juice.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 3, 2008
at 6:45 am
I started with 2 drops 2 x a day and am now up to 4 2x a day. I am going to keep increasing slowly. My eyes are puffy, especially in the mornings–and, I wonder if this is not kidney related–maybe I am busting up so much bad stuff that it is rough on the kidney although there is no pain in my back or signs in my urine! I was always told puffy eyes are one sign of kidney problems. I still have a little rough area of skin on my eyelid where it broke open and seeped but I hope this will go away—you can feel it but not see it.
I have discontinued all other supplements and meds just in case something is creating the eye mucus. Or, I was flushing the supplements!
And, yes–I have severe allergies and they typically cause my asthma to trigger off! But, I don’t believe they were the cause of the eye discharge because it was real cold here then and not a time I typically have issues! I did have some sneezing spells (real bad the first night) when I started back on the MMS! I am having a lot of clear mucus draining in the back of my throat and coughing bits up. My ears feel a bit of pressure and I am teetering on the brink of a sore throat but not the same as an illness coming on! And, as for the rest of my body functions –it would be hard to know if I had diarrhea because it is normal for me to go multiple times a day and I have never experienced constipation in my life!
Well, this is a run down of my experience. If anyone has ideas or comments I would welcome them.
I can say that one of my family friends has bone marrow cancer and before Thanksgiving he was told he would not see Christmas. He started MMS Thanksgiving and he has gained his strength back to go out and do things with his sons. He has told me his blood work is improving rapidly –he isn’t telling the doctors what he is taking but he is not gray anymore! Another guy who suffered from gout has lost about 40 pounds and is pain free and the inflammation he had in his legs since college (and he isn’t young today) is gone. I personally, have not lost a pound but would look forward to it
By: Kim on April 3, 2008
at 10:03 am
Adam,
No word yet on a IV Protocol ?…..I know in the DVD, Jim had talked about 2 drops MMS to 5 drops of Citric Acid…is that a minimum or maximum dose ?
Thanks Adam
Clint
By: Clint on April 3, 2008
at 12:32 pm
Hi there, MMS has been brought to my attention today, and sounds to be amazing… here in Fiji, if people want to detox, i they drink seawater , 1 part to 1 part boiled water, one part tap water …drink 1 litre, up to 3x a day. There would be no money here to buy the MMS product for most.., wages are $1 an hour, ..if you have a job at all. )I was wondering if it has a milder but similar effect to MMS?, after all theres a lot of sodium in the sea…. and it is a living organism
By: Elly on April 3, 2008
at 4:08 pm
BTW , if you added lemon juice to the , it may be more effective? …..
Excuse the Q, but chloride and chlorite sound very similar?
By: Elly on April 3, 2008
at 5:26 pm
Six weeks ago I started taking MMS at half a drop once a day. Within a few days I had excrutiating back pain and this made me discontinue taking it as I was unable to drive to work. I have lyme disease and have no doubt the MMS was killing off lyme which is probably in my spine. My back pain receeded two weeks later. My question is – should I have continued or increased the dose and hoped that the back pain would stop.
I do believe in MMS but there is no doubt it is very powerful.
During this time I have continued with the salt/c protocol.
I would be grateful for any advice – especially lymies who have started MMS.
By: Michelle on April 4, 2008
at 6:16 am
I apologize if I am asking a question that I may have missed the answer to in an earlier post or in Jim Humble’s book but I need to know:
How much lemon juice to each drop of MMS? I have only seen where it is recommended to mix with lemon juice but never hear mention of the exact amount. Please advise. Thank you!
By: Elizabeth on April 4, 2008
at 12:02 pm
Hi Elizabeth,
It’s 5 drops of Lemon juice to 1 drop of MMS.
C
By: Clint on April 4, 2008
at 9:33 pm
Michelle,
Your assessment sounds correct to me. The chlorine dioxide had indeed reached, and begun neutralizing the microorganisms residing in that exclusive country club in your spine.
The pain would have stopped once the critters had been removed. Increasing the drops may have sped the process up. Although it’s natural not to want it to hurt at all, it couldn’t hurt any worse to find out.
I wondered what to suggest to you to help mitigate the pain, and the main thing that came up was this: think about what the Lyme disease, now represented by the pain you’re experiencing, has effectively PREVENTED you from doing in your life, which you deeply want to do. Ask yourself are you READY to now live that life, and if so, are you COMMITTED to CLEARING ALL OBSTRUCTIONS, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, MENTAL, OR SPIRITUAL. Only YOU can answer these questions for YOU.
When you can say, from the bottom through the TOP of your heart, YES to these questions, you will have set in motion your own healing. You will also summon the strength, ease, and grace to ALLOW the pain to pass along with the microorganisms and conditions that cause them.
This is one area where MMS and all other modalities are limited, for YOU are the true Healer, as we all are. When you give the intent, permission, and make the commitment on these other levels (which I feel you have), you’ll set the stage for your new life, and then get ready to live joyfully within it.
Just my opinion.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 5, 2008
at 4:39 am
Hi Elly,
I can’t speak to the chemical similarities between your sea water detox cocktail and MMS. If it works effectively, then that’s great.
Chloride and chlorite do indeed sound similar, but chemically, they’re not.
This is the same as chlorine and chlorine dioxide being assumed to have similar chemical behavior, when in fact they behave quite differently.
Ingest enough chlorine and you will immediately get sick and eventually expire. Ingest chlorine dioxide and your pathogen load is reduced, and you get healthier.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 5, 2008
at 4:49 am
Kim,
I honor your healing process and fortitude, and your sharing it with us.
When we spend time being poisoned and malnourished without our knowledge, the deterioration of our health appears to be “normal”. It’s plausible to attribute it to age, habit, or stress alone. The “helpers” get a free pass into our kingdom, and go unexamined and unchallenged. Our predominant medical system doesn’t even have effective methods to remove them. In fact, it relies on “toxic helpers” to treat many of the disease pathologies that we contract.
Then one day we wake up and realize, we have a dull or acute ache, or can’t do something we used to take for granted. Or maybe something simply breaks.
Then we figure out how to “manage” and carry on with the limitation. Our doctors give us something to “get through” the discomfort that simply masks the effects, but leave the cause unaddressed.
As such, illness becomes our new “normal,” and how *we* go about returning to health is anyone’s guess.
The fact is that our healing process will be uniquely ours; like no one else’s.
This is because the manifold factors of toxicity and physiology, degree of acuteness, along with the willingness to let go of the *security* of dis-ease and readiness to be well, plus a belief in one’s power to do so, are equally unique.
Best wishes to you.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 5, 2008
at 5:07 am
Thanks for the reply. I am going to keep increasing the MMS gradually–I intend to beat this without steroids. I am up to 4 drops in the morning, 4 later in the afternoon and 2 before bed –I am having some reactions in my eyes now but not too bad. I have stopped all other supplements except MMS and this morning I have extremely puffy eyes and some slime but it has somewhat gone away as I am up. I think it will just take time. I am also having lots of sinus drainage–I think this is good!
I will keep you posted.
By: Kim on April 5, 2008
at 9:40 am
Clint,
Thank you. I haven’t started yet but will come to this board to give my progress. Again, thanks.
Elizabeth
By: Elizabeth on April 5, 2008
at 7:55 pm
Kim,
I am the editor of http://www.HealthSalon.org
I have some ideas for you to consider. For astham get some Tartaphedreel from Heel Homeopathics. Any health food store that sells Heel products can order it for you. It can knock an asthma attack out in a few minutes without dangerous drugs. But do keep your inhaler handy at all times just in case. Asthma must be taken seriously. Always carry your inhaler even if you think you do not have asthma anymore. I have had a world of experience with this so please take this seriously. With the tartaphedreel, often half the recommended dosage works just fine. Test it and you find what works for you. Your bottle will last much longer. If you drink wine 5 drops in your glass is even more powerful than the straight dosage. You can also try the drops in a 4 ounce glass of water to sip on over an hour or two. With homeopathics, often the more dilute the more powerful.
Learn about pycnogenol. I have known people to use 30 to 60 mg 3 times a day for a couple of months and have really reduced their allergies to where they don’t need it anymore.
Consider doing a 21 day detox. Get the book “21 pounds in 21 days. The Martha’s Vineyard detox diet” from Amazon. This is an excellent detox protocol Hold on the MMS until you have completed it or do just a very low dose, like 2 or 3 drops once a day. This protocol will help to open your organs of elimination.
Rinse your eye with colloidal silver with an eye cup once or twice a day.
Often times when people start to detox they have a difficult time handling it. Eyes and ears can drain, boils errupt, lots of things can happen if there is a foci of infection, especially, located in some body part. Often it is required to go slow, stop and rest as you have, but overall to be persistent and develop new tactics and approaches when the detox is severe.
A healing reaction or detox that causes congestion can sometimes be construed to be a new disease but what it really is is a detox that has stalled. Persistence is key and sometimes a new game plan is needed.
I can see no reason for the MMS to be a direct cause of your eye issue. The MMS is stimulating a detox that is difficult and unusual. Go slow. Consider colloidal silver as well as homeoapthic eyebright (euphrasia officinalis 30c potency) or rinse the eye with warm eyebright tea a couple times a day.
Best of Health,
Rett
By: Rett on April 6, 2008
at 2:59 am
thank you for your response Adam.
When you say the pain would diminish when the critters are removed – do you know how long this would take? I have had lyme for over twenty years but was only diagnosed a couple of years ago and have been struggling with different protocols. Do you know of people who have been cured or are symptom free of lyme after using MMS?
Michelle (UK)
By: Michelle on April 8, 2008
at 7:37 am
Hi! I have had candida yeast for years. have people had any luck with MMS? What do you suggest for this?
By: Gabriela on April 10, 2008
at 9:57 pm
How can we get MMS to buy in NIGERIA anyone know how? contact me here pls. asabtai@yahoo.com
By: Taiwo on April 11, 2008
at 2:35 am
i have been taking the MMS at a fairly slow pace. Knowing it is working yet proceeding w/ care. I have a laundry list of issues and i am feeling relief in several areas. The question i have is regarding diet. Clearly avoiding refined sugars seems like a ‘no brainer” but what are other foods to avoid or gravitate toward for increased success? Adam thanks for the commitment to the cause.
By: dodie on April 11, 2008
at 9:52 am
Hi Adam/phaelosopher, sorry I haven’t been able to get to this board since originally posting on April 2/08 concerning CFS/Fibromyalgia.
I haven’t touched MMS again as my hands, legs and feet have been absolutely aching, stinging and itching, etc. I listened to the Jim Humble interview http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/472/33/ and have decided to try again using the apples to see if the sickness stops this time. I really want to go through the protocol (15×3 per day) as my health and energy are just all over the place.
When I got up to 15×3 per day I lasted 6 days, even stopping it I was still pukin up 2 days later. Thing is that the pains in my hands, legs and feet where never this bad before using the MMS. It’s taken like 15 mins to type this little message out!
Anyways, I thanks you for your reply and enjoyed reading the other q&a’s. That interview has encouraged me to go onward and get more MMS inside using juice this time;)
By: John on April 11, 2008
at 9:55 am
Hi Adam,
It still isn’t very clear to me what MMS can do for herpes.
Can MMS get herpes out of your body forever?
Best regards,
By: P. on April 16, 2008
at 7:23 am
Hello Adam
I would like to speak with someone about advertising and exposing MMS to a direct market audience through a combination of radio and internet advertising. I’ve searched for a phone number and found your website. I have a great opportunity to bring MMS exposure to people all over the world through Republic Broadcasting. RBN has five doctors who discuss alternative health information and provide help to all of our listeners. MMS has a direct connection with our audience. Please contact me if you have any questions.
Regards,
Clay Brunken
By: Clay on April 18, 2008
at 9:26 am
Phaelosopher,
Why is it so hard on this site to find a link to buy the DVD or contact you?
By: Ryan Carson on April 18, 2008
at 10:09 am
I MUST BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS A FASTER CANCER CELL GROWTH RATE THAN THE MMS CAN CONTEND WITH..IN THE LAST SEVEN WEEKS I CAN’T GET PAST SIX DROPS WITHOUT EXPERIENCING VERY SEVERE NAUSEA,VOMITING AND DIARRHEA LASTING 5/6 HOURS.IT DOSN’T SEEM TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN HOW SLOWLY I INCREASE THE NUNBER OF DROPS.
WOULD MMS WORK IN A TOPICAL APPLICATION AND IF SO IN WHAT STRENGTH ?
BEST REGUARDS
RIC
By: RIC HARPER on April 23, 2008
at 5:59 pm
Could you advise me on giving this to a dog who is very ill. Our dog has heartworms, and also has bone cancer. This product looks like it could help her. I would like some advise on the dosing.
Thank you,
Laurie McDonald
By: Laurie on April 24, 2008
at 6:56 pm
PLEASE be careful folks–the MMS is NO miracle cure and has been making many ILL.
the explanations are based on wrong/faulty science and the claims of curing Malaria and AIDS are FALSE. (I have been in contact with various African agencies).
when challenged those who are selling this stuff claim “conspiracy”–how convenient. Recently Humble’s site claims his life is in danger for telling the world about his cure–isnt THAT convenient too
and right out of internet marketing class 101
please people, this is serious–at least educate yourselves and for God’s sake do NOT administer to pets or children EVER
a chemist who works with Chlorine dioxide commercially has stated that its POISOMOUS to ingest–read more here
http://mmsexposed.weebly.com
and for a brief start on learning how youre being duped read below
the following statements are just a few that are found on the MMS site and/or purported by others to “explain” how and why MMS works yet it is plain “bad science” –my degrees in developmental bio and the decades spent teaching pre-med and nursing students as well as even more years as a Science ed consultant compels me to refute the following:
1.- false statement: only “bad” microbes are ‘negatively’ charged and/or pathogens cant survive alkaline environments..
we must not be content to repeat what we have heard or seen written by those selling anything. ANY intro level microbio text will tell you that the following DEADLY pathogens exist and thrive in alkaline environments: enterococcus, erysipelous bacteria, listeria and yes even fungus like aspergillus which has become deadly to many. therefore stating only ‘good’ bacteria are alkaline is FALSE- also, ingesting an alkaline will make these pathogens more likely to cause harm, NOT “kill” them.
-According to experiments by Weichselbaum et al ” when gastric fluids become alkaline microbes do NOT lose their pathogenic properties”…
-2. False statement:Good bacteria cant be harmed– what about GOOD bacteria that thrive in ACID environments ( almost all of the probiotics like lactobacillus). What is ingesting an alkaline doing to THEM??? while many cant make it past stomach acids, some DO and others do well in the slightly less acid but NOT alkaline GI tract, beyond the stomach, as well. if ANY bacteria or viruses are harmed, so too will the “good” bacteria.
3. False statement- harmless salts form-making this non toxic–well, the common salt thats forming?? mostly right in the gut .hence the nausea- any scientific evidence that ANY of the active CLO2 stuff thats making you so nauseated getting anywhere into the blood??? I have seen NONE. The mammal body is pretty good at keeping things where they belong, why would such a toxic substance as ClO2 be allowed to get into the blood at high enough quantity? Id love to SEE blood and intracellular levels of ClO2 after ingesting this stuff
once this stuff hits stomach acid–neutralized to salts–hence the nausea
so too Id like to see the proof of its ability to get into the RBC–the membrane system makes it difficult at best for larger and unfamiliar molecules to simply cross the barrier membranes.
4. False statement- the CLO2 deposits onto stomach walls where it enters the body like other nutrients–well first off nutrients leave the gut via small intestines NOT the stomach, secondly the acids in the stomach would react with the CLO2 anyway.
5. False statement–if you have nothing in the body below acid level/Ph7 there are no ill effects–ummm what about the acids in the stomach?? and what about those good bacteria- ACIDophilus etc??
FYI HEALTHY microbes like lactobacillus require Ph range of 5.8-6.6 ACIDIC and
some pathogens like clostridium do well at 6.0-7.6–that is, they thrive even with alkaline environs!!
when in a state of health human body is slightly ACIDIC
while blood is usally slightly alkaline at 7.4 ( arteries) and 7.3 (veins)
Urine Ph norms = 6.0
saliva Ph norma 6.0-7.4 and vary so widely it cannot be used to measure the entire body’s Ph levels
there are individual variations so that within a small range we each have optimum levels depending upon diet and genetics and other factors.
6. False statement–no chlorine is involved–that chlorine like odor when you mix it??? chlorine!! and/or chlorine dioxide GAS-matter of fact if you inhale the fumes you will be inhaling chlorine or dioxide gas and may well end up needing medical attention!
7. false statement- ingesting MMS causes Ph changes of the entire body/blood to occur–no one has shown this to happen.
- in any case, any PH changes that may occur, are very quickly rebalanced in the body,and kept within very strict levels ( different for various tissues etc) UNLESS one is so ill as to be unable and then they face a probable DEADLY outcome. Theres a reason why saliva and blood are slightly alkaline and urine acid…why would anyone think playing around with this balance is GOOD???
- except in presence of some very specific illnesses, you cannot change one’s cellular Ph safely. Have you seen people in acidosis or alkalosis?? I have…not pretty. tiny changes that dont upset the natural balance also dont do much of anything for invaders…they too “like” the same margins of Ph our cells do.
8. false statement–the nasuea/vomting, diarrhea means a good thing–pathogens and toxins are leaving the body-maybe even a “herx”
if you ingest enough ‘common salt’ or salt water you will also vomit etc…like I advised to those doing the Salt/Vit c cure this too has very big risks. BUT this is NOT proof of a Herx!! or of healing or even detoxing–its your body screaming ” hey stop that”
Not all negative symptom results can be called “herxes” regardless of whats causing them. that term has become way to loosely used and why we often have trouble getting other trained professionals to listen to us when a real Herx ( or other event poorly adopted) happens
FYI as for pathogens and changing Ph-as far back as the “Principles of Surgery” by Nicholas Seim it was well known that altering the stomach’s acidity by making it alkaline will actually PRESERVE the virulence of pathogens and make the patient MORE likely to get deadly SEPSIS!! ingesting a strong alkaline is NOT therefore a ‘good’ thing. it will allow pathogens in the GI tract to become stronger and even to be passed further into one’s body.
- saying chlorine dioxide is safe because we produce tiny amounts of it is patently silly. even WATER becomes toxic at high amounts. and anyone can look up ‘chlorine dioxide’ to see that its quite a dangerous substance. Citing its uses is like my saying that at one time ARSENIC was used quite successfully against spirochetes specifically syphilis. well, who here would want to ingest arsenic??
9. False statement- Malaria has been cured in Malawi and Uganda–
-I have intimate knowledge of the malaria situation in Africa due to my daughter ( grad student of anthropology who unfortunately for my gray hair travels out of this country a LOT). and I can unequivocably say that NO cure for malaria has been done there on any large scale IF AT ALL. Hundreds are STILL dying in hospitals from resistant parasites. I have a BIG problem with advertising ‘cures’ when I know them to be less than truthful.if they ‘fudge’ or exaggerate in one area then how can I believe the rest of the claims.
I personally emailed the Ministers of Health of Malawi and Uganda and to this date None have been willing to say that anyone there used/uses MMS and that ANYONE has been cured of Malaria with it. Youd think theyd be bragging over their superiority if this happened. Id like to see PROOF from anyone of this happening as per the MMS website
plus that su[pposed 75,000 prisoners cured?? well folke Malawi has only 28 prisons holding a total of 11,000–so WHERE are the 75,000 prisoners???
10 false statement-resistance to this ( if it works) cant happen-
RESISTANCE can and does build whenever ANY microbe killer is used. period. This ClO2 cannot and does not instantly kill every last “bad” microbe all at once…IF it did why then do you need it for so long????? the microbes that are NOT killed are very quickly reporducing and those survivors are passing along their genetic know-how to get STRONGER. For the same reasons antibiotics are a big cause of the resistant bacteria we now face, taking ANY killer will do the SAME.using anything that puts pressure on another living thing to adapt will cause genetic changes ( mutationally or simply gradually with reproduction). ALL living things have one prime directive : survive and reproduce–and they will find a way to do so.
Im guessing that with some more time I can even find for you microbes that lap up chlorine. many thought for so long nothing can grow with high methane- WRONG, high sulfur or temperatures-WRONG.nothing can grow in Ice- wrong- turns out that there is LIFE adapted to very last environment on Earth. And some are pathogenic in every area.
11. people are being cured–well maybe they ARE and maybe not–but not from this–from what? placebo effect perhaps ( at what cost or risk), perhaps by other stuff theyve done previously–after all many who try this have failed many times on previous treatments…maybe all they needed was healing time.
the ones cured have done other treatments before or with this–how do you know which is helping?? and the MANY who are very ill/poisoned from this??? what of them??
it is negligence to pass along false info and put others in harm’s way!!!
be safe and be smart
( and btw there is NO conspiracy, IF anything was curing Malaria or aids in africa the level of superstition alone would have villages word of mouth rampant!! this week a scare about penis theft by witchdoctors had thousands in a tizzy–do you think a magic water cure would not??)
and very cute that Humble’s site now has him hinting his life is in danger for revealing this cure–a good marketing trick right out of internet selling 101–how can you believe ANY of this???
F.Lerm.
By: Finette on April 27, 2008
at 10:48 am
Hi Finette. Lerm,
Do you know you are a big fool. I read some of your information many of them dont have meaning. Do you know chlorine dioxide is very safe than any bloody drugs in the market. Coming from no where to comment bad on MMS is a sign of irresponsibility. Do you know MMS is the best pathogen killer in the world although might not kills any microbes but it does kills 85% of all know pathogens in the world.
Do you know a fool like you dont know many people have been cured of many diseases using MMS.
Make sure you fing somewhere to sleep and die gently so that no ones hear anything from you again.
Once again you are a big fool.
Yemi
By: Yemi on April 28, 2008
at 6:07 am
Finnette,
I read some of your information as disguise and unclear. How do you know chlorine dioxide do not kill pathogen. Do you know even common ozone is used to cure many pathogen becuase pathogen dont live where ozone were. Ozone is not as powerful in killing pathogen than chlorine dioxide. Many diseases have been cured using chlorine dioxide.
Please dont pass wrong information to others. Many things u dont know I can see.
Liona
By: liona on April 29, 2008
at 3:32 am
Hello,
Please mention units when discussing concentrations and such. All available literature says 28% sodium chlorite. Is it 28 GRAM% or 28 MILLIGRAM% or 28 POUND% or 28 KILOGRAM%? Please let me know.
Thanks and regards,
Davis.
By: davis on April 29, 2008
at 4:13 pm
Hi,
I started taking MMS two weeks back.
->Started with two drops three times a day.
then reached a stage when I was comfortable taking 12 drops three times.
when I took 13 drops second time one day( fifth day after starting)(this was taken after one hour of the first dose after breakfast. I vomitted three times that day. Then I went back to 6 drops three times a day and later on the 1oth and 11th days I was taking 12 drops three times a day. Then i caught a fever and running nose( I am not sure whether it was because of MMS). well then on 12th day I didn’t take anything. 13th day ->6 drops only once and today 10drops(that too only once a day).
One of the things I noticed is that when I was taking it three times a day, I had diahria throught the day. I thought the MMS is simply oxidizing whatever stuff is there in the stomach.
Is that really possible?
and one of the side effects(today too I have it) is sever abdominal pain after an hour of taking MMS.
Why all these are happening. Is there anything Wrong?
By: Rohan on April 30, 2008
at 3:14 am
Rohan,
Sounds to me like everything is working properly. Your body is releasing toxicity that it has been carrying around for your for some time. Flu-like symptoms, diarrhea, and even vomiting are possible while this is happening.
How much water are you drinking? It is VERY important to adequately hydrate your body, (1) to carry the toxins out, (2) to replace the fluids that were used to carry them out, and (3) to have enough fluid for the body to carry on normal operations, which in this case, will include repair of damage caused by the pathogens/toxins.
The MMS was oxidizing pathogens/toxins wherever they were encountered… in the stomach, lungs, sinus passages, joints… wherever contact was made. This may cause elevated levels of toxicity in the blood, hence the flu-like symptoms, but the body will seek to flush this residue out as quickly as possible.
This experience is NOT the way MMS/chlorine dioxide works all the time. It only works this way while there are toxins/pathogens/parasites in the body fluids that are subject to oxidation. When they are oxidized, you’ll have no such reactions.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 30, 2008
at 4:29 am
Davis,
MMS is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite, created by combining a precise measure of sodium chlorite crystals with distilled water. The 28% refers to the the ratio of sodium chlorite crystals to distilled water, by weight/volume.
Jim Humble’s book explains the details, including the amount needed.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 30, 2008
at 4:34 am
Finette,
In spite of the length and misinformation in your post, it’s published here for all to read. Each point has been answered by Jim Humble elsewhere on this blog.
If you are sincere about helping people, you can’t act so blind to the actual benefits people are experiencing. You are citing information from people who are indeed ignoring the benefits, who offer no better solution, and continue to suggest that chlorine dioxide, when used in concentrations known as “MMS” is poisonous, when it is absolutely is not true.
The public needs to be aware of your point of view, even if it is to understand that there are some who don’t care at all about their well being, and will use fear and mis-information to keep them standing still. You have, by intention, or unwittingly, made yourself a channel for that viewpoint.
Nonetheless, we thank you for your input.
Regards and well wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 30, 2008
at 4:42 am
Ric,
Each person is different. You are unique. I experienced vomiting at 5 drops, although it lasted only a day.
You were severely toxic, and probably dehydrated. Consider drinking MUCH MORE water each day, and put 2 teaspoons of baking soda in it for each liter that you drink. According to a man who got rid of a carcinoma on his temple, it will raise the water’s pH.
MMS works best internally. In fact, it is working for you now. While it is unpleasant… VERY unpleasant, it is also temporary, VERY temporary.
I don’t know how long it took you to get this toxic, but it won’t take nearly that long to get clear.
Hang in there.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 30, 2008
at 4:50 am
P.
Every human body is unique. Having said that, if chlorine dioxide encounters the herpes virus, the virus will be oxidized.
I would suggest doing a search at healthsalon.org, godlikeproductions.com or curezone.com on MMS and herpes and see what you come up with. Even doing a general search on the Internet will likely deliver some new and usable insights.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 30, 2008
at 4:56 am
Dodie,
Sounds like you have a handle on this. After spending time at the largest natural dairy in the world interviewing the founder, tne food I will highly recommend is drinking raw, unpasteurized milk.
And even better than that, is raw, unpasteurized colostrum. It tastes just like the raw milk, but is even more nutritious. It includes enzymes that the body needs, in addition to beneficial flora, and REAL vitamin A and D.
If you don’t know where to find real milk (meaning raw and unpasteurized), go to http://www.realmilk.com.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on April 30, 2008
at 5:01 am
Thank you Adam,
I am now taking MMS two times a day(8-10 drops) and on sat and sunday I am taking it three times a day.
I am taking it empty stomach in the morning with juice and wait for another 4 hrs before taking any food or even water. Is that recommended.
Is it necessary that I should have a 4 hr gap before and after taking MMS to have any food?
I have checked for the videos on Youtube. But no where this is mentioned. Somewhere in the part-2 of the book, Jim tells to take it before going to bed in the night. But not clear of how much gap I should give with taking food.
Why I’m giving 4 hrs gap is because I think the food would be kept in the stomach for 4 hours( the digestion period) and I don’t want the MMS to work with food. I want MMS to be absorbed to the maximum possible from the stomach(that is my logic of taking it empty stomach).
Please advice on this.
Regards,
Rohan.
By: Rohan on May 1, 2008
at 10:31 pm
Hi Adam
Ive searched a lot on mms/herpes but no one seems to be sure about this
Some don’t experience anymore outbreaks but then again, they can’t be for sure if the virus is really gone. Even without outbreaks they can spread the virus if it’s still there.
How can we check if it’s gone? The only thing I came up with was testing with electrodermal testing. Do you believe this will work?
Best regards
By: P. on May 2, 2008
at 3:44 am
Yemi, you have a big mouth and what comes out of it does nothing to prove or disprove what anyone is saying, so tell me Yemi what do you know, and don’t quote humbles book, WHAT DON”T YOU KNOW!
I’ll tell you where you can find a letter from humble when he left the church of scientology and states we will change words in their book sell it put a $1.00 from every sale to a fund incase they are sued, but they can get rich first! another scam!
By: bruce on May 2, 2008
at 2:07 pm
Hi bruce,
You are a big fool for telling that. You dont know anything at all. What do you know about Jim’s book.
Find somewhere to rest/die and dont let us hear from you you again.
fool
By: yemi on May 2, 2008
at 3:11 pm
Hi Adam
Some key points and questions for you:
1) Moving up to higher doses is definitely hard to swallow – literally! Up to, say, 4 or 5 drops it’s not too bad, but beyond 10 or 11 it’s getting really tough to drink it! So, can you see anything wrong with simply splitting a 15 drop dose, say, into three 5 drop doses and preparing and taking them an hour or so apart?
2) My partner’s heals and wrists went quite a bright green-blue colour at 14 drops. We assumed this was because of some stored heavy metals or copper being released. It didn’t last long – ever heard of this before? Any comment?
3) We have found that the toxins being released can take a couple of days to clear out. We know because we stopped taking the MMS and still felt the effects for some time. Also, old illnesses seem to come back in a minor form for a few hours or a day or two, and then go.
To help manage the variable release of toxicity and recovery we have found we are cutting back more than just a few drops and then working SLOWLY back up.
Thresholds seem to be reached as you increase where, suddenly, it releases a new wave of toxins. Then we have found it necessary to cut hard right back, even to zero drops for a while.
But how to know how much?
Well, we started using ‘muscle testing’ (Kinesiology) to get input from our bodies about the correct dosage (and timing). every time we take MMS. It turns out that our bodies have some pretty strong views about how much to take, when, and with what juices, etc. It’s too much to explain here (Google it) but our arm strength tests give very positive results for the right dosage and very weak for anything else. This is how we have known to cut right back to zero, or just 1 or 2 drops for a day or two, and how quickly to work back up. This way we seem to be able to stay in the slight discomfort only zone, but not debilitating.
We would recommend muscle testing highly for all questions about MMS usage (like is it better before or after a meal – it varies!) If you don’t believe in it, or don’t have someone to help you (it’s quite hard to do on your own – I do it with trying to lift a chair with my arm out straight) then actually, if you just ‘listen’ to what your body is saying to you, it’s much the same!
I believe this will be very much part of the new or later protocol (taking much more notice of what ‘feels right’ for you).
Keep up the GREAT job.
John
PS Finette does raise some valid points (and some silly ones), but like that Bruce guy on your show, please can he tell us WHO, exactly, are the “the MANY who are very ill/poisoned from this”? I haven’t seen much evidence of anyone being harmed – have you? You’d think the forums would be full of horror stories of bad effects, but they are almost exclusively of positive to miracle reports. SO, ARE people getting harmed, to your knowledge?
PPS If MMS is for real (I believe it is, I’m feeling better than I have done for MANY years and am deeply grateful) everyone should be aware that Big Pharma, etc. will absolutely, positively litter forums like this with disinformation as a matter of course. And this disinfo will look exactly like the kind of jumbled up points of Finette (i.e. good points mixed up with crap). So, we should all beware of this, and keep our discretion going
By: John Jamieson on May 2, 2008
at 4:01 pm
Could you advise me on giving this to a dog who is very ill. Our dog has heartworms, and also has bone cancer. This product looks like it could help her. I would like some advise on the dosing.
Thank you,
Laurie McDonald
—————————————
Hi Laurie,
I think the answer to your question is in jim Humbles book. If I remember its 1 or 2 drops.
John
By: John on May 2, 2008
at 6:53 pm
jim
my wife has been dealing with 4th stage breast cancer for 2 years now.she has a mango size tumor in her breast.We have done everything natural, no chemo,no surgery,(i am well versed in the deceptive cancer industry and its 50 billion $ profit s!!)but she did have a biopsy which seemed to spread it.she is currently on a 42 day fast from the bruess cleanse,she’s on day 23,very stringent cleanse.we have tried almost everything,i will list just a few:black salve,lorraine days program 6months,every mushroom u can think off,every herb u can think of,every green algae,etc………my friend turned me onto this,bottom line will this get rid of my wifes tumor???this cancer is like an alien,and i want my wife not to die from it.We are not in fear she got rid of that within the first few months,i just want her to heal,email or call with your response
575-613-4274.thanks for your time
jonathan. my wife is 42 we have 3 boys together much to young to die from cancer!!!
By: jonathan traister on May 2, 2008
at 7:09 pm
hi adam/ jim
just finished reading the e book(most of it).i have some questions.
1:any names and contacts that i can speak with who have successfully used mms to rid themselves of cancer?? this would be very valuable to my wife and i
2:any updated protocols for using mms on breast cancer??
3:any updated protocols for using mms externally on breast cancer??
4:anybody who is using mms with there cancer , feel free to contact me@ rpm2700@hotmail.com or call @ 575-613-4274
By: jonathan traister on May 3, 2008
at 8:08 am
I am very interested in your work on MMS and am hopeful that it is as effective and safe as you suggest!
Before I try it I wanted to research the potential toxicity. I did some searching and located an interesting report on the toxicity of chlorine dioxide (link is below), however I realize the studies that are mentioned cover very different scenarios than your protocol.
What is necessary however, in order to compare their study to your protocol is to know the precise scientific quantities and concentrations of chlorine dioxide that your protocol indicates. That way I can compare apples to apples.
Do you have a description of your preparation and protocol that states these quantities precisely? (in other, not “two drops” but some exact dosage? And what concentration is created?)
Has anyone else studied this and can you point me to further links that might help?
http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0496.htm
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/
By: NS on May 3, 2008
at 10:52 am
Graviola (Annona muricata) also called soursop or guanabana is a powerful tree that grows deep within the Amazon rain forest in South America and throughout the Caribbean. The plant has been used for centuries by medicine men in South America to treat a number of ailments, including hypertension, influenza, rashes, neuralgia, arthritis, rheumatism, high blood pressure, diarrhea, nausea, dyspepsia, ulcers, ringworm, scurvy, malaria, dysentery, palpitations, nervousness, insomnia, fever, boils and muscle spasms. According to recent research it also protects the immune system, boosts energy and may have strong anti-cancerous properties. Producers claim it is stronger at killing colon cancer cells than common chemotherapeutic drugs and that it hunts down and destroys prostate, lung, breast, colon, and pancreatic cancers, while leaving healthy cells alone.
http://www.blackherbals.com/graviola_leaf.htm
By: John on May 3, 2008
at 11:04 am
How do you respond to the allegations (see link below) that MMS is an unsafe treatment and that many of the claims in Humble’s book are incorrect or even fabricated?
http://mmsexposed.weebly.com/mms-protocol-is-it-fact-or-fiction.html
As well as the issues related to safety that are raised — and need to be answered — If MMS actually cured Malaria, where is the evidence? Shouldn’t there be at least some verifiable evidence? Has anyone independently verified these studies?
By: NS on May 3, 2008
at 11:27 am
Dear Phaelosopher
We are trying MMS out because there are many very poor people in our region that desperately need almost-free treatment for so many diseases, Hepatitis B, TB, Malaria etc.
Please tell Jim Humble that we, probably like many people around the world, are willing to try it out, with a very positive attitude and with Hope. If it works, may he live to know proper gratitude from people everywhere.
By: Compline on May 3, 2008
at 11:26 pm
Hi all,
For those of you fighting cancer of any kinds. MMS is good and effective but the best cure for any kinds of cancer is intravenous vitamin C 6g daily for two to six weeks. Grape juice diet for at least two weeks depending on the spread of cancer cells. Most people use ozone.
After using intravenous vitamin C and grape juice diet for four weeks my colon cancer, liver cancer, kidney cancer is gone forever.
If your cancer is not cure I will give anyone. $1million
By: fred on May 4, 2008
at 1:16 am
Hi all,
Intravenous Vitamin C kills cancer cells fast. Vit C tablet does not work much to kill cancer cell. Get the IV.
By: fred on May 4, 2008
at 1:23 am
NS… These statements have been issued repeatedly by people who don’t care about what is happening now. Or perhaps they do care about what’s happening now, that can be substantiated, because it is difficult to substantiate the many documented links that Jim Humble included in his book.
For anyone that doesn’t know that hundreds of thousands of people ARE using MMS now — people that are writing about and sharing their own experiences and protocols — then it would be easy to ask the question that you posed. It would be the logical thing to do.
MMS doesn’t “cure” malaria. It doesn’t “cure” cancer, asthma, diabetes, or any of a myriad of other disease pathologies. What it does do is safely remove a wide range of pathogens, toxins, and parasites from water by way of oxidation that leaves healthy organisms or beneficial tissue unaffected.
It has been proven to do this in municipal water treatment for other 70 years. You can find corroborating evidence of that if you care to look.
Chlorine dioxide is considered a superior water treatment modality to chlorine BECAUSE it produces no carcinogenic byproducts. It IS already being taken internally in these, and many other applications.
Since water comprises the vast majority of the human (and animals too) body, oxidation by chlorine dioxide is an ingenious use of this natural, “rebel” free radical.
The only rationale that anyone can give for dissuading people from using MMS/chlorine dioxide, is that they don’t want one to benefit from what it does… or more specifically, they don’t want it UNDERSTOOD that it works for us internally as well as it does externally. Otherwise, how could we continue to justify many of the other expensive, and ineffective ways we treat disease now?
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 4, 2008
at 5:13 am
Jonathan… has been put in touch with someone offline. We send him and his wife our best and most powerful thoughts of health and well-being.
A~
By: phaelosopher on May 4, 2008
at 5:16 am
John,
GREAT insights!!! Thank you for sharing!
I wrote about using applied kinesiology to get the body’s viewpoint and GUIDANCE in another of my MMS articles, which elicited a most negative response from one reader.
It just so happens that this week I’ll be interviewing Dr. David R. Hawkins, from whose book, Power vs. Force, I learned about muscle testing, for an upcoming edition of my radio show, Talk for Food.
I’ve not heard of the blue/green phenomenon, but I suspect that your assessment of what is happening is correct.
All of this leads us to acknowledge that we know much less about healing than we do about disease. And we know even less about *our own* healing, and yet, that’s the one that counts the most.
Have you tried drinking it down with pomegranate, grape, pineapple, or cherry juice? I’ve used pomegranate and cherry, and the taste of the MMS is masked quite well.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 4, 2008
at 5:38 am
P.
The best thing you can do, in my opinion, is understand how MMS/chlorine dioxide works, and what it works on. When you’ve got that down, you’ll know that the herpes virus would indeed be within the range of its reactivity.
The next question is simply accessing the virus where it resides in the body. If the MMS/chlorine dioxide accesses the location of the virus, then the virus will be toasted.
If outbreaks stop after someone has taken MMS, with periodic “booster doses,” why bother looking for viruses? What we look for we will find. What we fear we will draw near.
I would do what John did, and ask my body if it still has herpes, or any other virus that may cause an outbreak. If it says “no,” then I’d relax.
I know this may sound strange to some, but your body is the only thing in the world that KNOWS whether IT yet harbors certain virus, bacteria, or pathogens. If you ask it, it will answer, truthfully.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 4, 2008
at 5:48 am
Hi, All:
With plans to pursue a degree in microbiology and biochemistry, I personally became very excited about discovering MMS and the long-range beneficial implications for all of us in pursuit of living lives as “drug-free well people” versus “drug-dependent-for-life sick people covering up many resolvable problems..”
I started one week ago for some of my personal issues, and on the first day of use the sinuses totally opened up and it’s been that way ever since. Nothing from the drug store or even any herb from the health food store has ever cleared this nasal garbage out so effectively. Both nasal passages are totally open, with no post nasal drip, no wheezing when I exhale, and my speaking voice is resonant and clear again and not that snotty-nosed sound when your sinuses are plugged up. This has been an issue since the mid 1970’s!!! SO I’M LOVIN’ THIS MMS!!!
Prescription Nilcol years ago would clear it up for 4 hours, but then knock me out for 6 and I’d wake with a horrible hangover. I couldn’t do my job like that. SO NO THANKS!!!
I feel a great sense of empowerment having discovered something so inexpesive for the world, and with such unique biochemistry on our side . . .ELECTRON DONORS (the bad guys) VERSUS ELECTRON ACCEPTORS (the chlorine dioxide) EQUALS “Zap” . . .GAME OVER FOR THEM.
I would suggest everyone please review this site I found by Dr. Thomas Hesselink regarding his research, analyses, and abstract of the biochemical use of chlorine dioxide as a pathogen-fighting protocol and its many possible potentials.
It gets to be very technical, but I found it to be very impressive as to his efforts into research to obtain his findings, and certainly encouraging for all of using MMS and subjectively experiencing our own validation of its effectiveness.
http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm
And the skeptics and “experts” perhaps should utilize his professional, open-minded, objective approach regarding MMS, and instead of “theorizing” what MMS does or does not do, can or cannot do, or what the body will or will not do upon ingestion of MMS, test it first to verify their assertions and then advise us in a factual, informative and constructive way instead of an attack to discredit and undermine and scare users and potential users by applying biochemical response standards that they know versus biochemical response standards that they don’t know about MMS specifically.
Otherwise, it stinks to low hell to me as being “a spy” or “a mole” monitoring various web sites perhaps on behalf of some corporate entity who is starting to shake in its boots at the huge potential loss of profits if MMS becomes a worldwide known unprecidented medicinal phenomon.
By: BetoA on May 4, 2008
at 5:07 pm
How many drops of the MMS solution do I need to address stomach distention/malaborption/digestive issues? I am up to 3 drops and don’t feel anything yet.
Thanks, Olive
By: Olive Kreitman on May 4, 2008
at 7:34 pm
My liver is still in pain and have been using this for a while now..for a while I thought is was clearing up, I almost thought I was cured, but then it all came back..
I had to cut back to only 15 drops at night before bed as I was in a constant state of nausea..
I am very skeptical and you seem very defensive to anyone who doubts..
Howie
By: Howie on May 4, 2008
at 10:50 pm
Hi Adam,
In part-2 of the book, Jim says the MMS would be a slightly yellow solution.
But What I got is a whilte solution of MMS in a green plastic bottle.
When vinegar is added to drops of MMS(6onwards) it is changing the colour to yellow after 2-3 mins. The pungent smell is also coming.
Does this mean that the solution I have have some problem. It is white in colour( that is what I saw when the drops are poured into a clean white glass).
Regards,
Rohan.
By: Rohan on May 5, 2008
at 2:07 am
Howie,
If your liver is in pain it is because YOU… and your body, have some form of blockage in that area, which is presently being “worked on.”
YOU are choosing to interpret that pain as having been “caused” by MMS. An equally valid way to interpret it is that the chlorine dioxide is doing what it does, meaning releasing toxicity, which now must work their way through the blocked, restricted area that is presently YOUR liver. Your being in a constant state of nausea is additional indication of the DEGREE to which you have been, and ARE YET STILL toxic, BUT are now in the process of RELEASING said toxicity, which IS a very UNPLEASANT experience.
Yet, in spite of the WONDERFUL process that IS happening with you, you express YOUR doubts and call me defensive.
I have nothing to defend, neither my opinion, nor MMS. I want YOU to be healthy as MUCH as I want ME to be. I also KNOW that *doubt* or *inner conflict* ABOUT WHATEVER WE FOCUS OUR THOUGHTS ON CONSTRICTS the flow of energy through our system. It causes INNER STRESS THAT, DUE TO THE MIXED SIGNALS THAT *WE* ARE MAINTAINING, RETARDS THE BODY’S ABILITY TO HEAL.
It has been scientifically observed and proven that chromosomes and DNA actually change shape, into a tighter coil when we PUT OURSELVES under stress. (See Gregg Braden’s The Divine Matrix.) You’re doing that to yourself. The coils also will relax when we do. This means that WE are giving the DNA the signals as to how to respond to the stimuli of our environment, and it responds to US. If we do this consciously, choosing to BE positive about our actions, instead of in doubt, then they will respond positively by being clear, fuller channels for healing energy and protocols, whether it is MMS or anything else.
I have no conflict or doubts about how MMS works, and do not “blame” it for what it does, even if it turns out that I feel terrible while toxicity comes out. Therefore, I DO not PROLONG the discomfort by resisting what is in me which doesn’t serve me, and instead, I let it go with gratitude, and my blessings.
You are free to adjust the number of drops you take at any given time to ameliorate the discomfort and continue the detoxing process. But if you have doubts, you should ask YOURSELF why do YOU do so? Why do you not give YOURSELF the FULLNESS OF YOUR BELIEF IN *YOUR* ABILITY TO RETURN TO HEALTH WITH THE MODALITY THAT *YOU* HAVE CHOSEN?
I spoke to a woman recently — Adele Britton — who agreed to chemotherapy for the rare form of cancer that she had. SHE had a change in heart, and mind. She LET GO of her fears, doubts, and most importantly, her ANGER. Her cancer is now in remission. It wasn’t the chemotherapy that did it, it was HER, and SHE *KNOWS* IT. (You can listen to my interview with Adele on my Talk for Food radio show. >> http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/546/33/ <<) (please let me know when the link is broken, I’ll move the podcast somewhere else.)
I KNOW that YOU will heal yourself, not the MMS. However, if YOU KNOW that YOU heal YOURSELF, and are ready, then MMS will help you do it by doing what it does more effectively. Will you still feel nausea or pain? Perhaps, but you will be so HAPPY about what’s coming out of you while KNOWING that it is temporary, it won’t matter.
It’s simply a different attitude.
You’ve had to have read some of the MANY fantastic accounts that people have written of their own personal experiences using MMS. You are as SPECIAL and POWERFUL as THEY are. But YOU will use YOUR energy in YOUR OWN unique way. You will also interpret YOUR EXPERIENCE in YOUR own way… which is what you are doing.
Is MMS causing YOU harm? NO… not any more than YOU are causing YOURSELF harm by your own doubts and fears. Fortunately, you can release them.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 5, 2008
at 4:25 am
Rohan,
The MMS solution is naturally clear prior to activation, and turns yellow as it generates after you have added the activator.
So it sounds to me like you have a properly formulated sample. You are to wait at least 3 minutes while the chlorine dioxide generates after adding the activator. If it was not yellow by then, then I’d question the formulation.
Although it will work, I would suggest using vinegar as a LAST OPTION.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 5, 2008
at 4:44 am
Olive,
YOUR BODY will tell you how much IT needs to do what you’re asking. If you’re not feeling anything yet (it’s only been 3 drops), then continue adding drops.
Maintain the dialog with your body, as it will guide you through the dosing maize in the best what that serves both IT and YOU.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 5, 2008
at 4:46 am
Howie said
“My liver is still in pain and have been using this for a while now..for a while I thought is was clearing up, I almost thought I was cured, but then it all came back..
I had to cut back to only 15 drops at night before bed as I was in a constant state of nausea”
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By: John on May 5, 2008
at 9:10 pm
Adam
I am SO impressed by the effort you spend answering people on this blog!
And from 4.30am too – that’s dedication.
On behalf of us ALL… Thank You!!!
Three cheers for Adam!! Hip hip….. Horaay!!
By the way, I always used to always be up at 5 am, happy and energetic, but it had waned away over the years: far too groggy and tired to get up before 7 or 8 am. But, thanks to MMS (and I still can’t tolerate higher doses yet) I’m fully awake up at 5am again – what a gift. AND much clearer mentally during the day.
Adam, this will be new to you too, then, – the blue/green colour of my partner’s skin lasted a few hours, but now, get this… all her skin has been smelling DISTINCTLY of aluminium for the last day (like an old aluminium pot!!!) Also, her normally clear, radiant skin has got a grey palour to it. This is incredible – and, for us, proof positive that old toxic stuff is coming up and being expelled (she’s 48, but it was in her childhood that she last ate a lot of food cooked in aluminium pots!). Normally very fit, she’s been tired, cold, dizzy and couldn’t focus mentally as it has been coming out. Now she’s looking and feeling a lot better again.
What a coincidence you’re having David Hawkins on. I read your great post on muscle testing:
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/04/06/thoughts-on-peace-consciousness-observation-inner-truth-and-its-amplification/
and also the very negative responses by ‘Fred’ under, ironically, your post on Power of Love:
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/thoughts-on-love-the-greatest-power/
We have had extremely helpful input from muscle testing; here is an example of how we do it:
If we know the last dose was 7 drops say, we’ll simply test for “6 drops is the best dose”, “True”, and “7 drops..” “True”, “8 drops…” “True”,. If none come in strong, then rather than test every single number, we say: “5 drops or below is the best dose”, if that’s strong, the “2 drops or below”, and if that’s weak, try for 3, 4 and 5 drops. Sometimes it’s gone down to zero when our bodies need time to process/release what’s been already dislodged: for me, even for a couple of days while I recover!
Also, to start with, and from time to time, we ask questions like: “I know the answer to how many drops to take and I’m willing to give accurate answers through this muscle testing”
And it’s good to note a couple of our learning points:
1) You have to state your question exactly right as the ‘body’ gives very literal answers. E.g. you might get a higher answer when you test: “This is the BEST dose for me to take now to have most beneficial effect ” and end up with a lower number testing for “This is the OPTIMAL dose for me to take now to have most beneficial effect, but without undue discomfort.” And then your idea of undue discomfort may be different from your body’s! So, if you again qualify it with: “that is, with no stomach cramps, nausea, diarrhoea or tiredness that would impair my ability to work today”, you may come up with a yet lower dose.
2) If there is any ambiguity in your question, you may get unclear answers. For example, “This is the best dose for me” may give inconclusive answers as there’s no time element, whereas: “This is the best dose for me to take NOW”, will probably get clear answers. Every time you are getting unclear or variable answers, check ambiguity in your question, and ask in a different or more specific way.
3) If you don’t really want to know the answer to a question, you’ll get uncertain or misleading results. An obvious example would be if you start asking about your inner “life plan” when, really you don’t want to know about it, so the answer may be inconsistent, wrong or even be like leading you up the garden path, as if your body has its own ’sense of humour’! However, it may be that there are parts of you that don’t actually WANT to get well yet, and so it is good to ask questions like this too: “I actually DO want to get detoxed, fit and well, as soon as possible (without undue discomfort), with no reservation” “True” and you might be surprised by not getting a clear, strong response. Then you’d have to investigate why and fix it in whatever way suits you.
4) We never RELY on the answers, only use them as input to our own decisions; for that would be to disempower ourselves too much to an ‘external agency’, rather than becoming more self-reliant. Actually, we use it to help tune in to what we already know without having to muscle test. We have found before, that becoming overly reliant on muscle testing can also cause problems with the answers; almost as if it’s teaching us a lesson!
5) The state of the person testing can lead to inaccurate results, particularly if they have self-confidence issues, say. They need to feel clear and strong in themselves.
6) We usually ask the questions blind, that is, the questioner will hold the number in their mind and simply say: “This is the correct number of drops” and the test subject will say “this is True” even though they are not conscious of what number they are being tested for. Then we will ask with several different numbers, randomly, and check that only the SAME answer comes up 2 or 3 times strong and the rest weak before divuldging what the actual number is. This always works unerringly, unless one of the above points are in play!
So, overall, Adam, we treat the muscle testing as if talking to an intelligent, conscious being, and do it with respect and love. And so here’s my response to Fred’s ‘double-blind’ objections. Anything psychic or woo-woo tends NOT to do well in strict lab/ test conditions, because (just one reason) the conditions are unnatural and there’s no good reason to give correct results, and you can get even ‘petulant’ answers. At worst, it could be compared to sitting someone down in a lab to test for Love and saying to the subject, “Right, I want you to now fall in love with me!” And so proving love at first sight does not exist.
Sorry it’s long, hope it helps
John
http://www.TheOmegaShift.com (for a daring metaphysical movie on how we co-create our realities together)
By: John Jamieson on May 5, 2008
at 10:35 pm
Adam,
You are completely wrong here, I never said the PAIN was due to the MMS, how uneducated of you. Pain in the upper left quadrant is a common symptom of Hep C, and I had it long before I started taking MMS..
So here you go again being defensive about MMS and anyone who doubts.
You and Humble claim it is a cure all for so many things like Hep C, AIDS etc. but when it does not work, you put the blame on the patient saying some airy fairy BS like it’s all in my attitude..
You should learn a bit about the diseases you claim this will cure, because not knowing makes you look like a fanatic.
By: Howie on May 6, 2008
at 7:11 pm
Is this Liver Cleanse ok for people with Hep C whose livers are inflamed to begin with..?
Please don’t tell me you don’t know.
Howie
By: Howie on May 6, 2008
at 8:27 pm
Hey Howie,
Why do you feel the need to be so rude?
Is it your liver that’s making you so antagonistic?
Liverish: Having a disagreeable disposition; irritable.
Sun
By: Sun on May 6, 2008
at 9:21 pm
John,
Never a need to apologize. The length and the wisdom of your response is JUST RIGHT!
Thank you for your insights!
I’m going to watch your movie, and then perhaps we can discuss it on Talk for Food.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 7, 2008
at 4:35 am
Howie,
Because you don’t believe — or respect — my point of view doesn’t mean that it’s wrong. Simply its truth won’t work FOR YOU. I find it curious that you’d ask for advice from someone you have such little respect for, when in fact, the answer is within you.
You think of it as “blame” when I suggest looking within, when in fact, I’m directing you to where the source resides that actually fixes our problems. I point you to your power, which at present, you’re letting someone or something else control because you don’t think you have any, and something or someone else is “to blame.”
Keep looking elsewhere (outside yourself) if you like. You’ve got an eternity of pain and suffering to go through until you change your mind (and heart).
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 7, 2008
at 4:42 am
Hi Adam,
is joint pain(mostly on the leg, calf) part of taking MMS?
I stopped taking MMS for two days because I was not feeling good, and was not in a mood to take any food.
Now again I started taking it again from yesterday(this time tried a ready made apple juice available in the market-in the ingredients list, no Vitamin C was found- taking the apple juice(not chilled) was itself not very good. thought of something else to mask the smell of apple juice)
Had taken one more dose today morning. By evening I was feeling quite tired and have pain on the joints.
Is this natural? perhaps some symbol of body asking for more rests?
Thanks for your support and answers,
Rohan.
By: Rohan on May 7, 2008
at 5:10 am
Hi Rohan,
Many people report experiencing such things as joint pain, flu-like symptoms, and sometimes lethargy (lack of energy) when taking MMS. It’s not so much that the chlorine dioxide “causes” these responses, but it is more likely the effect of reaching and oxidizing pathogens.
When the pathogens are flushed from the system, they also report feeling energized in ways they forgot they were capable of being.
The body tends to repair itself while we sleep. As such, a feeling of lethargy could be another sign of the body’s readiness to repair what *had been* compromised by former pathogens, now oxidized.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 7, 2008
at 5:45 am
Adam,
Who is blaming anyone here? I am just saying you seem to get defensive when someone says hey this is not working according to the description given by you and Humble.
How MMS is described to work is not like a crystal or a shaman doing spell work..
I have been into alternative healing, Meditation, Yoga, herbs, ayurveda since I was in my early 20’s
I am 53 now, so please don’t patronize me with the heal yourself brother rap after you and Mr Humble have clearly stated over and over again that MMS is a cure all for so many types of illnesses hands down in action=reaction, E=mc² terms, but now after people say hey, I’m not getting well and having some problems you go into this, “It’s all about your attitude jargon”, you seem to be backpedaling or as I said being defensive.
Humble says clearly that MMS cures HEP C and you said you have read about some who “Stuck’ with it that were, can you show me who those people are, is this documented?
Every time someone asks to be given names of someone who has been cured, it is shoo shooed away, “Oh no one would want to do that” or something else”, I disagree.
Most people out there who cleared Hep C or AIDS with MMS you better believe they would stand up and shout it from the roof tops!!!!
My problem is when people have difficulty and not seeing results you say it goes back to them and frankly this is NOT the way Humble conveyed MMS in his book.
Also Let me ask you, what proof do you have that when people get flu like symptoms from taking MMS that they are flushing out toxins?
You seem rather a newbie in the holistic scene, how long you been involved with MMS, since sept 07..? What were you into before?
Howie
By: Howie on May 7, 2008
at 8:16 am
Howie,
I used YOUR words… you said that I was “blaming” the patient with such “airy fairy BS” as attitude.
If you’ve read anything else that I’ve written, you’ll see it clearly stated that MMS is NOT a cure all, that the individual is a more important factor than the modality. But then, the individual would have to look at self, take stock of their attitude and beliefs, grudges, prejudices, and skewed perceptions that are not serving them in a healthy way.
There is plenty of science to corroborate these statements if you’re willing to look.
As for documentation, there’s plenty of it right here on this blog, if you want to look at it. If that was of interest, you not continue trying to make a case for my defensiveness, when in fact, I’m simply replying to your questions.
When people have difficulty and are not seeing results, it’s EXACTLY when they should look within. It’s exactly why they are not seeing results. They think the answer is outside themselves, and they agree to some of the most barbaric practices on the possibility that they’ll be helped, when some self-understanding, tolerance, patience and forgiveness, would go far.
Intolerance, disrespect, prejudice, judgment, et al, all stimulate physiological reactions within the body, all the way down to the chromosomal level. Negative attitudes create stress on the body that constricts the flow of energy into the cells, and eventually causes systems to break down. Harmonious ones restore the flow, allowing health to return (i.e., healing).
I don’t need to “prove” that flu-like symptoms are the result of toxins being flushed out. I have spoken to enough people who experienced them before they “got well,” and read other places that have said the same thing. Ultimately, if you have Hep C, the only person you need to prove anything to, is yourself.
Nothing that I or anyone else says to you will supersede your own opinions about what “works,” and what does not. That is why others are getting over Hepatitis, because they are committed to doing it, and they KNOW that THEY can, and will overcome. They are not wasting energy trying to get assurances from others, when they now know it for themselves.
I’ve been into airy fairy BS philosophy for over 25 years of this life.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 7, 2008
at 8:39 am
Adam..
I guess I am just a bit disappointed because I was taking it and it seemed things were getting better, I mean I almost felt as if I was healed, I was even going to post some weeks back saying I think I had slayed the dragon, then it came back gradually…
And I felt let down…
I’m sorry for being such a bitch, I’m just very frustrated…
Howie
By: Howie on May 7, 2008
at 9:11 am
Hey man,
I understand, but don’t be discouraged by it… I’d be encouraged by the movement that I saw. It’s very likely that once one level of “dross” had been cleared away, that another was encountered, which now is being cleared away.
It took time for this condition to evolve, it’ll take time for it to devolve, once you know that YOU have the power to heal, and that the tool that you’ve chosen, can get the job done.
You’ll be okay, and you can beat this.
Persevere.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 7, 2008
at 10:27 am
Hello,
My name is Charlie and i recently came upon MMS via curezone. I was recently diagnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma in November of 2006. I have been in remission since June of 2007. I did 6 rounds of chemo. I should also note that I have Left sided ulcerative colitis and suspect that it had something to do with the development of Hodgkins Lymphoma.
I have not entirely given up on conventional medicine as i feel both alternative and conventional have there strengths and weakness.
MMS seems really promising. My health objective is all preventative at this point in my life. If treatment cannot be aimed at the cause of the illness than I am generally not interested because it will not help in the long run.
I plan to use this MMS, possibly as an enema
for the Ulcerative colitis, any recommendations?
If i choose the Enema should i also take the MMS orally? I feel that the chemo must have elminated every bad and good thing in my body, do you think this is true? I am thinking MMS would be beneficial in eradicating any leftover chemo in my body.
I am only 29 and jealous of everyone my age that seems to live a carefree life. For lack of better words, it BLOWS!
Look forward to your constructive response.
-charlie
By: Charlie on May 7, 2008
at 12:30 pm
Adam,
Should I start all over ..? I was doing 15 drops twice a day but was constantly nauseous and had diarrhea,
So I went to only 15 drops per day at night before I went to bed.
What do you think, also I am going to try some liver flushes..I was impressed with that video..
Howie
By: Howie on May 7, 2008
at 7:22 pm
Hi Adam,
I’m honoured that you’re going to watch our little, but powerful, movie. It’s kind of my life’s work (in a first draft format); very avant-garde. To really ‘get’ The Omega Shift, one needs both an open mind and heart, and I know you have both. I love your easy, but incisive, radio show style; it’s an inspiration as we are about to start our own show on TalkShoe.
Your show with Rupert Sheldrake on Consciousness was GREAT (http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/568/33/), and I’m itching to join in such discussions, encouraging them on to the next level (actually our show is called The Next Level! http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/14399).
So, I (or we) would be delighted to chat with you about The Omega Shift and taking the ‘nature and burgeoning science of consciousness’ on to the next level (and even how MMS etc fit in) on air, (or off air). We feel it holds a message whose time has now come, or is coming, as there has recently been a new flurry of new interest in it; such as on the ‘Abraham’ forum http://www.abetalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=292&p=2522#p2522
And, you’ll find there’s an ‘Adam’ in the movie too!
Thanks again for your great dedication to these noble causes.
Warmest
John
http://www.TheOmegaShift.com (for a daring metaphysical movie on how we co-create our realities together, out of our own Consciousness)
By: John Jamieson on May 7, 2008
at 9:34 pm
Hello Adam,
Is there any chance that the level of oxygen available to the body muscles becomes lower when being on a MMS protocol.
Why I am asking is because of the following incident.
I took 12 drops in the morning, 12 drops around 5pm in the evening. Then went for jogging in the nearby park. I was very tired after 4-5kms. This is something which don’t normally happen to me. I was able to cover around 7km without any tiredness.
This made me think of a possibility. As Jim says, the red blood cells can’t differentiate between Oxygen and Chlorine Dioxide. So when I am taking MMS, obviously Chlorine dioxide too would be picked up. My thinking is this. If a particular areas was in need of say 10 oxygen parts, when on MMS, it will get 9 oxygen and one Chlorine dioxide and this lack of oxygen causing the illeffects when one lacks the presence of O2.
This is just my way of reasoning.
Would this be a possiblity of tiredness.
Need your advice.
Anyway I am on my protocol today had 13 in the morning and will take 12 drops in the late evening.
I know having faith in the medicine will help a lot, but the oxygen-clO2 thinking just came out to me and seems reasonablel, that is why posted here.
Regards,
Rohan.
By: Rohan on May 8, 2008
at 2:14 am
Hi Charlie,
I’m not sure what conventional medicine might appeal to you, but my bias will always be to the approach that works, causing the least amount of harm, whether it’s a conventional approach, or not.
In my most recent recorded conversation with Jim Humble, he mentioned that people have reported great success using enemas with activated MMS. There would be no conflict to do this in conjunction with oral intake. However, you should ask YOUR BODY for its recommendation. Read John Jamison’s comments above about muscle testing.
One of the beauties of this protocol is that it isn’t antagonistic against healthy microorganisms or body tissues, but oxidizes harmful ones, such as mucous (biofilm) which is formed and then colonized by certain microorganisms, which *protect* them from antibiotics. Chlorine dioxide oxidizes first the biofilm, then the microorganism colonies.
I believe you are correct about the chemotherapy too, as well as MMS removing the residue.
Spend time to thank your cellular consciousness population — there are TRILLIONS — of them, for looking out for you. Promise to consult them from now on about what is in your body’s best interest, SEE yourself well and going THE LIFE YOUR HEART WANTS TO LIVE, and KNOW that the power to do so is already within you.
Think of the great story you are writing for yourself, and the many minds and hearts that you will touch POSITIVELY through your success.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 8, 2008
at 4:04 am
Howie,
Doesn’t feel to me that you need to start from scratch, just dial it down and find a tolerable point to work from. You will find that what elicits nausea today may not do so tomorrow. Once the toxins from one bout of nausea or diarrhea have been removed, they are OUT of the system. So any new nausea or diarrhea is from new pockets that have been encountered.
You are on a “search and eliminate” mission. That is what the chlorine dioxide is doing. It feels TERRIBLE while the release is happening, but the pathogens were robbing you of vitality while you didn’t even know it. When they are gone, you’ll have more YOU — energy — available to apply to the life you want to, and are now ready to live.
You’re taking positive steps Howie. The liver flush will be a good thing.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 8, 2008
at 4:10 am
Yemi, you poor exscuse for a human being, wishing death on people is the reason you take MMS.
Some thing came back and bit you.
I wish you a long and painfull life, where do you come from, what type of tree.
You speak like you know Jim, I hope you do.
By the way did MMS fix that hair problem on your back!
You must have hated being called yetti!
By: Bruce on May 8, 2008
at 9:36 am
Seems taking some deep breath after having MMS(not right after….but after some time1-2 hrs like that) is reducing the nausea feeling.
I don’t know whether this is scientifically correct.
but works well when I was on a 12+ drops twice a day.
By: Rohan on May 9, 2008
at 1:17 am
I am a firm beliver in the detoxing properties of sodium chlorite having started on high doses myself and having amazing results and cleansing reactions. My skin cleared up after about ten days ,I have much more endurance and energy and have not been sick since. However I wonder why the word miricle is in any way assoicated with anything that obviously can be explained and backed up with science, and who came up with the title? I often find that when I tell my educated friends to look up miricle minral supplemet, they instanaly shut down as the word miricle usally relates to something that cannot be scientifically confirmed and has many religous implications. If the people who came up with the name are serious about healing the masses. I think it needs a more approiate common name.
Please dont confuse important facts with fantasy.
By: Makxxx Russell on May 9, 2008
at 4:15 am
Hey Howie and Bruce,
Howie is a very rude guy. Bruce is a big fool as well who has created this forum to create a lot of conflicting issue. Does anyone know where Howie and bruce or whatever his name came from.
Bruce, I never want you to die it is a hyperbole, I wonder you that do not understand simple English claim to expose MMS. When millions of people are using MMS all over the world. I look at the website you claim expose MMS and some of the information there a lot of people are still claiming MMS cure there diseases.
Bruce, most people believe you dont know what you are talking about and a lot are still using MMS right now thats why I called you a fool.
yemi
By: yemi on May 9, 2008
at 4:19 pm
Hi Adam,
Please we all love you keep on. You are doing a wonderful job. Please dont listen to Howie or Bruce this two guys are big fool and trying to cause a lot of problems/conflicting issue.
Adam, you are a wonderful man. We all appreciate how you answer everyone question in this forum.
A very big thanks to Adam.
Thanks very much, we love you.
By: yemi on May 9, 2008
at 4:24 pm
hi all
my mother has diabetes i have had her on mms for in total about two weeks on and off jut recently she told me that her doctor said it was unusual but the insulin intake was uniformly decreasing we are both excited with this result.
i have also had a old friend who i have got taking mms at 15 drops now!
Who had prostate cancer now recently he told me the doctors found bone cancer so i have already got him taking the mms and he will go to this retreat (alternative-cancer-care.com)who are doing a observational study on mms i also said in an email to him to combine with colonic irrigation and lots of organic veg juice and
far infrared saunaing i just want to say that i really love seeing all the great infomation being shared here amongst intellgent well informed people you really dont need a phd to know the truth as a matter of fact it probably makes you more myopic in your view.
Also having alot of success getting the word out there to other blog sites on health .
I was wanting to bye the bulk amounts soon too, i want to put money into getting mms into africa and is there anyone else thats going to be doing this sort thing so i can ad in my contribution…
By: jared on May 9, 2008
at 6:14 pm
Hi Adam,
I would like to thank you for your advice and trying to help us out.
The problem is, I hardly get any outbreaks. The thing I am worried about is spreading the virus. So I don’t just want to eliminate outbreaks I want to eliminate the virus.
Im trying to figure out what my chances are. So the questuion is, can MMS reach the nerves and take it out?
I did lots of research, but since english is a foreign language to me (im from Holland) and I don’t know much about medicins It’s quite didfficult for me to understand all of it. That’s why I’m asking you.
Best regards
P
By: P. on May 10, 2008
at 2:03 pm
Hello Adam:
I came across your blog and have been reading most all the entries. I came across MMS about a year ago, and bought several bottles. I figured I would use it to keep myself in a healthy mode. upon taking it (with vinegar), at about 10 drops, I got nauseated, and stayed that way the entire day, in bed. The following day, I decided to take it a night. WHen I awoke the following morning, I was quite disorientated, and couldn’t stand without feeling the sensation of dizziness. I was not able to go to work. SO, my question to you is this disorientated feeling, including my mind jumping about (not sure how to explain it).. has anyone had a similar experience?
Charlie
By: Charlie on May 10, 2008
at 2:35 pm
Charlie,
YES YES absolutely what you describe is very familiar to us!
It IS hard to describe, but you did well!
It sounds ominous, but as I see it, you have been poisoned, not by MMS, but the toxins that have been stored in your body for so long.
The rapid release is tough for the body to deal with, but it does its own good job, given time, and if there’s no life-threatening condition, it makes sense to regulate the release to a rate you can comfortably deal with, even if it’s down to 0 or 1 for a day or two.
We thought we were pretty toxin free, but how wrong – we’ve collected SO much of the decades.
Sometimes, as it’s releasing, it’s hard to believe that you accumulated so much and it must be the MMS that’s poisoning you. The trick is not to give up, but cut back to give time to recover the release of toxins. After a big release, we can feel the effects for a few days, even if we stop MMS for a while.
Eventually, you WILL feel the difference; well I have anyway – utterly incredible how I’ve regained long lost youthful vigour, skin tone, clarity of mind, creative flow again.
I’m CONVINCED the toxins were suppressing all those, even though I would not have described myself as a sick person before!
Hang in there – it just seems to get better and better, ‘miraculous’ even, even though it’s really ‘just good chemistry’!
And let us know how you get on….
By: John Jamieson on May 11, 2008
at 2:23 am
Charlie,
John nailed it, as he also described my situation with MMS… when I experienced a major toxin dump (diarrhea and vomiting) after 5 drops, and numerous what I’ll call “radical” bowel movements (like giving birth to rocks) thereafter.
It is amazing the stuff we carry in our bodies, and continue to “press on” while the body slowly breaks down. It’s even more amazing to see how the body stops “breaking down” and even begins repairing itself (when proper natural vitamin and mineral nutrients are replenished) after the toxin, pathogen, and parasitic load has been removed.
Here is another article I wrote on the same subject, which reiterates some of the same points that John made (thank you John!).
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/mms-and-prostate-cancer-context-change-woo-woo-and-common-sense/
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 11, 2008
at 4:17 am
Hi Adam,
In Jim’s book he says MMS will work (chemically react) with stainless steel.
Will this be a problem when taking MMS intravenously?
Will it work with the Injection needle as well?
Regards,
Rohn
By: rohan on May 11, 2008
at 12:08 pm
I want to apologize to all here for my rude behaviour, I am dealing with a very frustrating situation with my health and my life in general right now.
Adam, I have taken it down starting at 8 drops twice a day now and will go from there.
namaste,,
Howie
By: Howie on May 11, 2008
at 1:07 pm
Howie,
You just reclaimed your power by accepting responsibility for your attitude and changing it. Be prepared for your life turning in a new direction.
TRUST your body’s guidance and follow it. No one is exempted from the power to heal. Most of us simply refuse to allow it.
Giving safe harbor to negative attitudes and beliefs only maintains the stress that make us fertile soil for disease. By being, or becoming our best, we give the best outcomes the power, and reason to unfold.
If you can yet be your best when the worst is happening, then you show yourself ready to handle the best with humility and grace.
All the best to you,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 11, 2008
at 6:51 pm
Greetings to all from Australia. I had a horrible reaction when I got to 10 drops!!! projectile vomiting and had to go to bed. Dropped back to 8 drops the next day and no reaction, much better!! no diarrhea until the next morning. Can i stay at 8 drops or should i continue to increase every day again? I really cant deal with the vomiting as I have to work. Also noticed that I feel very “strange” in the head on even a few drops. Also can I just do it once a day or is it vital that I have 2 doses daily?I am a great grandmother and work from home doing market research via the computer so cant just stop talking to people to go and throw up which I had to do last week.Love and light to all who are striving to get their health back.
By: Clare on May 12, 2008
at 2:53 pm
Clare,
That’s no fun! But remember, the toxicity that was eliminated is no longer in your body. I had a similar experience — diarrhea and very emphatic — vomiting at just 5 drops… stepped back a few days, then went up again. I’ve never had that particular reaction again.
You can adjust the number, frequency, and timing of drops that you take as it suits you and your lifestyle.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 12, 2008
at 3:49 pm
Hi Adam,
Thanks for great work done advising people here on administration of MMS. This site provide invaluable growing list of testimony that will benefit people like me a great deal.
As for my case, i have been diagnosed with parotid gland cancer (Mucoepidermoid carcinoma – 2nd stage) has since undergone parotidectomy with clear margin established). I have come to know about MMS and got hold of one bottle from one of Jim’s suppliers to try.
I have started with 1 drop /twice a day and have since increased to 7 drops twice a day (now on 7th day). My question is …i have yet to feel nausea as suggested by Jim. Is it normal? Should i continue increasing to 15 drops. What if at 15 drops, still no sign of nausea, what do i do.
Appreciate your advise
regards Abraham
By: abraham on May 13, 2008
at 3:56 pm
Hello Adam,
For one with no critical illness, is it necessary to reach the 15 drops three times a day dosage?
Or is it ok if I be on the maintainance mode of 6 drops twice a week?
Thanks,
Rohan
By: Rohan on May 14, 2008
at 12:50 am
Hi Rohan,
I am an advocate of understanding *why* we’re doing something, *what* our objectives are, and should reasonably be expected, and listening to the feedback that our body gives. As such, the operative word in your question to me, is “necessary”.
I wouldn’t feel it *necessary* to do that. Yet, if you did, you wouldn’t experience any reaction, such as nausea or diarrhea, because you would have sufficiently restored balance in your system and there would basically be for the chlorine dioxide to oxidize.
If you find that you’re experiencing no nausea or diarrhea at a lower drop level, and all else is fine with your health, then adjust your intake amount and frequency as you see fit.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 14, 2008
at 7:43 am
Greetings Abraham,
Every individual will have both their own *unique* experience with MMS, and common experiences. The common experiences include the reactions that go with releasing pathogen toxicity, such as nausea, diarrhea, or in some cases, vomiting. Other less common, but still shared physiological experiences include headaches, sinus drainage, fatigue.
The unique experience comes out of how these shared experiences manifest *for you*… when, and how mild or intense they will be.
So… I know of several people who had cancer, who went far beyond 15 drops before they experienced any kind of release whatsoever.
One man… with prostate cancer… had progressed to 16 drops, with no results. After some meditation wherein he asked guidance from his body, he went directly to 32 drops. Three days later, he had a major release of toxicity. Now he listens to his body. I believe he is doing 6 drops a day now.
Seeing and treating your body as a partner in the restoration of your physical health is an important aspect of said restoration. It KNOWS what it needs, and WHERE it’s needed. All you have to do is learn to form the right questions and TRUST the answers that you receive.
There are reasons the lack of response… for example, blockages in the kidney, liver, or other parts of the body, that have to be worked through before the MMS can be more freely distributed and do major oxidation.
I wouldn’t worry about what to do if you get to 15 drops and nothing has happened. Stay present here, now, today, this moment. BE present. There’s much that can happen between now and then that you may otherwise miss.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on May 14, 2008
at 8:03 am
Adam,
I so much agree with your well expressed partnership with our body. We have come from a ‘prescription culture’ where have been taught to give our power to others to prescribe for us because they “must know so much better.”
But MMS is intriguing because it really forces us to take control of our own prescribing by teaching us to listen to our own needs.
I suspect that many have started MMS and dropped off because they tried to stick to the prescribed MMS protocol too rigidly!
Here’s another way to listen to your own body’s needs:
Ask (or get someone to ask you) – “How many drops is best to take at this time?”
Allow an answer to arise from a sense of knowing. Usually the first one is best, before our logical mind tries to analyse it!
If the answer is – “I don’t know,” use the clever fall-back of: “I know you don’t know, but if you DID know, how many would it be?” (this takes the pressure off the logical mind having to get the correct answer, and releases the intuition to have a good guess! Works like a charm almost every time!)
If the answer is: “I don’t know,” simply repeat the question: “I know you don’t know, but if you DID know, how many would it be?”
Don’t forget you can modify your question according to your needs, such as:
“How many drops is it best to take at this time so that I can achieve the most detoxing without risking any tummy upsets or nausea during this important meeting I have today?”
Your body really DOES appear to know the answers to these specific questions – very clever, eh?
By: John Jamieson on May 15, 2008
at 11:53 pm
All the post here had been helping in some way or other. It is clear that some days with the same drops that you had yesterday you may become sick of diahrria, vomiting kind of feeling,lack of appetite, abdominal pain, joint pain(one or a combination of these).
I was particularly been attracted by the post above, which gives the freedom to chose the number of drops(keeping it one up everytime in a manner to reach 15 ASAP will make you leave the thing in first place).
And teh other posts of Adam himself. On the intensity of drops and how often they should be administered daily, how to adjust them to suit your lifestyle etc etc……they all had been really helpful.
Now I am on 6 drops twice a day and is planning to countinue on it for some time. This is not making me sick. If possible someday sometime I will reach 15 X 3.
I am taking a short break from the discussions.
Before that thanks a lot to Adam, Jim, and all those who gave their valuable suggestions.
Catch up with you later…
Rohan.
By: Rohan on May 16, 2008
at 7:18 am
It is now 14 days since I had my last MMS and I am still feeling terrible, no energy confused, and constant mild nausea, I do have kidney problems, have been diagnosed as a “stone maker”, constant small readings of blood in my urine but kidneys ok on x ray some years ago. Could this be the cause of my nausea? a kidney blockage? I had such a horrible reaction to 15 drops I am frightened to try again just yet, even 3 drops.
Thank you so much for this wonderful resource Adam, it is very comforting to know people are there to help
Clare
By: Clare on May 18, 2008
at 2:49 pm
I had 26 drops last night and felt like i had the hang over from hell but next day feel fine that wa the first time i had that much that was in accordance to 3 drops per 25 ponds of weight which converts to 11 kg i’m 97 kg so it converted to 26 drops i’m sure i could feel it coursing thru my veins. just confirming what would my maintenance dose be? 15 drops?
By: jared on May 18, 2008
at 4:09 pm
Hi Clare,
Youi may not be alone in this. I was feeling really great after some obvious detoxing. Then as I started to come back up (only about 5 drops, I think) I hit the wall, and have felt just like you describe: terrible, no energy confused, and constant mild tummy upset, no nausea. Also, a sore liver all week.
My partner’s the same: several days of sludge-like feeling in veins, aching kidneys (probably overloaded by toxins) and now swollen lymph nodes in neck too… and all while not taking much at all – a few drops once a day and none for a couple of days, now.
It really does feel like a toxic load has been released, or is being released naturally, long after the ClO2 has dissipated, and the body’s just catching up!
We’re running on faith here! Only the fact I DID feel better than in years before THIS bout, is what’s keeping me going, I think! It really does feel like poison swilling around – so it’s gotta be better out than in!!!
Well, it seems a very inconvenient time to feel under par, but when I come thorough it all clean and clear again, I’m sure I’ll say it’s all been worth it
Powerful stuff, this ClO2!!
Warmest
John
By: John Jamieson on May 19, 2008
at 5:19 am
Hi everyone- I just placed my first order of mms. Can anyone tell me if you have heard of anyone having success with insomnia & hormonal imbalances caused by pituitary and thyroid problems? Thanks!
By: Janey on May 19, 2008
at 5:49 am
Hi, thanks for the info on MMS. I activate mine with organic apple cider vinegar and it works. I activate with a 1:1 ratio.
But it tastes horrible and I feel like I am being poisoned so I am glad I read your blog and will stick with it longer because I can see it is the resident poisons that are making me feel nauseated.
I do not have thyroid and I take glandular extracts to make up for the missing thyroid. I also take selenium and CalMag in powder form.
Okay, we will continue the protocol. How long usually must one stay on MMS before the body is cleared?
About mercury, I removed a lot of mercury from my husband’s body using liquid zeolite. Liquid zeolite is sold by an MLM-based company called Waiora. I don’t know anyone else who sells it, but it removes a lot of heavy metals, but it is not as cheap as MMS.
Thank you again for providing this blog on MMS.
By: Gnosis on May 19, 2008
at 5:51 am
Janey – I am wondering if you are currently taking any thyroid medications? My stepsister is taking a prescribed drug for her thyroid and has been complaining about insomnia. When I researched the drug, insomnia was one of the prominent side effects. In any case, I find that MMS does give me a much deeper sleep (I normally sleep well anyways). My in-laws, who DID have trouble sleeping, are now sleeping better than they have in years since taking MMS. Good luck, and please keep your results posted here – I would love to report back to my stepsister, since she is leary of trying the MMS, despite our encouragement.
By: Julie on May 19, 2008
at 2:16 pm
Thanks Julie – I am not taking any medication. It is a last resort for me. I mainly ordered the mms to clear up candida and parasites and I was just hoping it would help some of the other health problems I have. It would be wonderful to be able to sleep normal hours. If I don’t take any meds like unisom or tylenol pm I will be awake until noon tomorrow.
I feel so bad for your stepsister. Insomnia is just hideous. I am not working right now so I can sleep whenever I want – but I need to get a job soon and I want to deal with it without pharma meds. I will let you know how the mms affects my sleep patterns and hormonal imbalances.
By: Janey on May 19, 2008
at 11:29 pm
Well I wish you nothing but success with your MMS journey – just take it slow and steady…I would be very surprised if it did not improve your health in a measurable way. Sweet dreams!
By: Julie on May 20, 2008
at 7:16 am
Hi Adam,
Anytime I take MMS I normally sleep very well. I have noticed this for the past two months now. Thanks to Jim humble.
By: yemi on May 20, 2008
at 1:15 pm
Hi all,
MMS is amazing I use ten drops of MMS on my sore throat and tongue sore two days later it dissapear. This is great.
By: henry on May 20, 2008
at 1:23 pm
After realising a bad tooth ache was affecting a molar one evening, I read from page 17 of Vol 2 that 6 drops with 1/4 teaspoon of vinegar should be used to brush with daily. I did this that night and woke up feeling a little better but the pain was definitely still there.
So I measured out another dose, brushed and rinsed the teeth strongly with half and swallowed the other half. Lots of water followed.
This was because I thought the MMS might not have access to the infection within the tooth, so an attack from within might help.
Did it again that night, but experienced some mild diarrhoea the next day with lethargy. Continued the same twice daily for another day, also with mild diarrhoea and lethargy, then cut down to one dose at night for two nights, rinsing strongly and swallowing the other half.
Pain has gone, gums normal, no diarrhoea and energy levels normal again.
Thanks Jim and also you Adam.
By: Compline on May 20, 2008
at 11:34 pm
I am wondering if anyone has been on the mms for MS. I just started taking Rebif for a week now and am considering stopping and start the mms
Thank you
By: Sharon on May 21, 2008
at 9:50 am
John, thanks so much for your response to my last post. I have gone to 3 drops every second day and will start every day again soon, feeling much better now. Must say I have a problem with the smell in the glass!!! think I am drinking pure bleach until I actually drink it, I take it with water not juice.How wonderful so many are getting such fantastic results.
Love and light to all
Clare
By: Clare on May 22, 2008
at 4:16 pm
My first order should arrive tomorrow. I am aware that we should not use juice with vitamin c to mix with the solution. Is that added Vit C or should we select a juice with naturally low vit c levels?
On another forum pomegranate juice was recommended. I found some that is 100% juice – no added sugars or vitamins. Also – not from concentrate. Will this be ok?
Any other suggestions are welcome.
By: Janey on May 22, 2008
at 10:08 pm
Hi Janey – I would suggest no added Vitamin C and also low vit C levels…ie. Orange juice is a no-no, even though it has no added vitamin C. My husband and I found organic apple cider worked well, and I have also heard about the pomegranate juice. Actually, now, we just mix it with water only, and chase it down with another glass of water – if you breathe through your mouth only during the whole process, it’s not too bad
Good luck !
By: Julie on May 23, 2008
at 2:39 am
I must say, you guys who are drinking it “Straight” have some serious Balls !!
I have been taking the MMS now for 3 months, and could not even conceive of taking it with water…. it was seriously gag me. I use ‘Lakewood’ brand, Organic Pineapple Juice (nuthing but Pineapple juice)…and it’s bearable.
I am about to experiment with with taking the MMS via enema as per Jim and Adam’s suggestions, and see how that works out. I would think that by passing the entire digestive tract, and having it enter my system via the colon would be way more effective and less nauseating.
Clint
By: Clint on May 24, 2008
at 3:25 am
Clint,
I have it ’straight’ with the 1:5 lime juice and it really tastes not so bad to me (diluted with water), but I tried it with Citric Acid the other day and found it absolutely disgusting – best I can describe is that it was like ‘drinking’ my chemistry lab at school.
Yuck – never again!!!
I stick with yummy lime, thank you.
(and larger doses, just drink it with more water..)
John
By: John Jamieson on May 30, 2008
at 6:59 am
Thanks for the info John.
I do wonder though, that if your activating it with Lime Juice, are you getting the full potency you need/want in the final MMS solution ?
To me, if I am to take the MMS for any reason, I would think that you’d want to activate it with the strongest activator….no ?
(which would be Citric Acid)
Just my thoughts,
Clint
By: Clint on May 30, 2008
at 11:58 pm
Hey Clint,
I can assure you – the lime juice ‘version’ is more than potent enough for me!! If I ever get as high as 15 drops 3x a day I might consider your point, but I’m sure I’ll be doing just fine!
Incidentally for M.E./Chronic Fatigue sufferers (I used to have M.E. and thought I’d pretty much got over it years ago), this what I’ve noticed:
I’ve had three waves of getting ‘full-blown’ symptoms coming back. First after hitting about 12 drops, then slowly working back up to about 8 and recently back to 5. Counter-intuitive, I know, but my constant experience is that thresholds are getting reached for release and it’s like I’m more sensitive, OR that the higher dose ‘loosend up’ the toxins and they are just waiting to be ‘pushed over the edge’ to be released.
Once I get a release (i.e. I feel ill/toxic again) I back off right down to zero for a day or two or three and STILL I can feel the effects persisting.
Once I’m back to feeling well again (and I have been feeling MUCH BETTER than in years in between these bouts) I work up again, and maybe quite fast too.
I’m looking forward to reporting back here with the all clear / full dose having been achieved!
The muscle testing has really helped with determining how far to cut back and how quickly to move up again – but I think if you just go with the ‘just knowing’ and erring on the side of caution, the whole process is manageable (i.e. no need to be in a rush)
By: John Jamieson on June 1, 2008
at 10:34 pm
Hi John,
I agree, one really does have to pay attention to their body when taking this stuff, and trying to Heal in general.
I believe also that you have to be the kind of person that really wants to get well, and not be the type that needs to take things that taste good, or smell good…and if it doesn’t, just toss it aside…. that ain’t gonna work with the MMS !
I listen to the little voice in my head as my muscle test… it speaks to me very lound n clear.
Clint
By: Clint on June 3, 2008
at 1:00 pm
Hi Adam
Thanks for your great job to help all of us.
I wonder can anyone share his/her opinion on P’s post dated on the 10 May as follows :
//QT //
Hi Adam,
I would like to thank you for your advice and trying to help us out.
The problem is, I hardly get any outbreaks. The thing I am worried about is spreading the virus. So I don’t just want to eliminate outbreaks I want to eliminate the virus.
Im trying to figure out what my chances are. So the questuion is, can MMS reach the nerves and take it out?
I did lots of research, but since english is a foreign language to me (im from Holland) and I don’t know much about medicins It’s quite didfficult for me to understand all of it. That’s why I’m asking you.
Best regards
P
////
I think many of us would like to know whether can HSV virus which hide itself in the nerves roots be eliminated by Chlorine dioxide.
Thanks in advance for sharing. Many thanks!
CH
By: CH on June 4, 2008
at 7:04 pm
Hi Adam,
Can you tell me how to use MMS by injection. I need to know because I dont understand if to mix six to eight drops of sodium chlorite or a mixture of sodium chlorite and citric acid with 20mL of sterile injection(sodium chloride solution) and for how long.
Thanks
John
By: John on June 8, 2008
at 2:37 am
Hi Adam,
I have been using MMS now since last month about two weeks ago each time I use MMS before I sleep and when I wake up in the morning I normally feel pain in my liver area which is resolved after I woke up three hurs later. Can I know why I feel the pain.
Thanks
Sharly
By: sharly on June 8, 2008
at 4:26 pm
Hi,
I posted this elsewhere, but this site seems to be pretty positive and a bit more active.
“I also have hep-c as well as CMV, EBV, HHV-1&2, zoster and HHV-6. Also have a low level mycoplasma. I am now on my 3rd day of 15 drops taken 3 times a day.
I’ve been taking it slow – starting 2 weeks ago with 1/2 a drop. I’d just had a minor shingles outbreak at the base of my spine (where all herpes viruses lay dormant) and the night following my first dose, I soaked my bedsheets. I had a backache for a few days but I continued to gradually increase the dose. I haven’t had any noticeable problems – no nausea or vomiting. (yet…)
I also chose not to undertake the current hep-c treatment. I’m genotype 1b and had very little damage on my 2003 biopsy – I’ve probably had the virus for 35 years. I take a huge amount of supplements, primarily milk thistle, ALA, NAC and a host of others.
I’ve been on a gluten-free diet for the last 5 months and it was a great help! No more IBD or stomach bloating and my fibromyalgia/chemical sensitivy is much reduced. I also eat lots of veggies and fruits, though I’ve eliminated any vitamin c while I’m taking mms at 3 times a day.
My liver function tests are pretty good but my ALT/AST are slightly elevated. My viral load is fairly low. (at last test anyway..) However, my herpes viruses are going wild – despite Valtrex, Lysine, and Olive leaf extract.
So, my great new doctor suggested MMS and here I am. I had my mercury amalgams removed earlier this year and have been on chlorella and chelaco for chelation – my doc thinks that it will be easier on my liver to do it the oral chelation way.
I told her that I’d be a willing guinea pig for mms, lol, so I will update here again on my progress.
From what I understand, I am to remain on the 15 drops three times a day for a week or so and then go to a lower dose afterwards. Or, I am supposed to increase the number of drops if I don’t feel any response?
Anyway, so far, so good……..
Thanks for your help!
Nola Chris
By: Chris on June 9, 2008
at 6:19 pm
Hi Chris
I also have herpes but am not using MMS yet
Im trying to find out if MMS can remove the virus completely out of our body’s and how can we be sure if they are gone?
I would like to know what your doctor says about this?
Thanks for sharing
By: P. on June 10, 2008
at 11:00 am
My daughter has a friend who used this to cure malaria after traveling abroad. I have personally met this woman. She lives in Canada.
She became aware that I had Lyme disease at 26 years old (I am now 53 Years old) and was never treated. I have some health problems that may be caused by Lyme disease. She suggested MMS may eliminate Lyme disease.
I am fortunate because I can stop in a shop and buy this in my city. I am impressed that it is sold at such a small price as compared to herbal remedies. According to my North American income, the cost of MMS is negligible which makes it even easier to try it.
I have been using MMS for about 3 weeks. I have never experienced nausea from it, but I do get really tired and I have diarrhea. I am taking 15 drops once a day. I am not planning to increase to twice a day because I work long hours in a stressful profession and I absolutely have to be functional during the day.
I wish I could say I have had great success so far but I have not. My joint pain immediately increased and as mentioned, I am tired a lot. However, I know something is happening because friends who see me about once a week have remarked that my skin looks terrific! Since I see myself daily in the mirror, I have not noticed this improvement myself.
I am committed to maintaining the present dosage for at least 3 months. Humble says even a few drops will work and that Lyme disease is extremely difficult to eradicate. I will reassess at 3 months to see how it is going and I would be pleased to keep you abreast of the results.
In the meantime, 3 of my friends have started using MMS. One of these was getting a nasty cold just as he started MMS and he states it eradicated the cold within HOURS. I have emailed Humble’s book part I to several people, including my 78 year old mother.
I purchased Humbles book part II and consider the cost to be a small contribution to the betterment of malaria victims worldwide. After all, it was a malaria victim – now cured – who passed the knowledge to me.
By: d.d.red on June 10, 2008
at 6:23 pm
Hi Adam and all,
Like to thank you and john for lengthy response and words of encouragement after my last post. It definitely help me in my MMS journey for my parotid gland cancer cure. as told earlier, there was no effect on me at all till 6 drops, 2wice a day. Then i quickly increased to 8,10,15,20 still twice/day. 1st day of 20 drops i started feeling lousy and mild diahrria, 2nd day 20 drops, more diahrria plus little nausea then on 3rd and 4th day of 20 drops, i had real bad time with diahria and nausea. i was completely knock out almost all the time in washroom. then amazingly on 5th onward i was completely OK. Then continued with 20 drops twice a day for next 1 week without any problem. After 1 week I then drop to 6 drops/day till now (in 3rd week of 6/day).
Now some questions…
1. Does my experience with MMS above indicate that i am done and could now go to maintenance dosage scheme? What is recommended dosage? i am 49 year old and 80kg..
2. the smell is REAL bad, i almost gave up due to smell and diahria and nausea but the smell was the worst of all. All the juice in supermarket include added vitamin C which is not recommended. Is there any other way?
3. I understand from my Dr and Oncologist that there is no such cancer marker for my type of parotid gland cancer (ie Mucoepidermoid carcinoma), any body here has got any experience on how to monitor. Soon i hope, i should be on regular maintenance MMS dosages, how do we sort of know that cancer is being taken care of by MMS?
Again thanks everyone for kind words, experience sharing and helps.
best wishes
By: abraham on June 10, 2008
at 6:34 pm
Dear Adam or anyone else,
Have you ever heard of anyone taking MMS having their teeth become discolored? I have been taking MMS for about a month and my teeth have become noticeably yellowish. I am taking 15 drops twice a day in citric acid and I feel like it is really helping me.
With Gratitude,
Craig Oster
By: Craig Oster on June 13, 2008
at 3:48 pm
Craig,
That’s a new one for me. What I’ve heard is the opposite. In fact, there is one company whose toothpaste generates chlorine dioxide. It kills bacteria and whitens the teeth too. I would suggest that you consider brushing your teeth specifically with the MMS after activating, and see if that helps. Let us know what happens.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on June 13, 2008
at 5:03 pm
Abraham,
Thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like your body has indeed achieved a major release of, and reduction in toxicity.
Others have expressed sensitivity to the smell (which can be pretty intense)… but like you, their determination to rid themselves of the pathogens was greater than the aversion to the smell. Haven’t heard any tidbits to pass along there.
You may have to take solace in the memory of all the toxicity that your body was carrying prior to the cancer’s emergence, and confidence that you will not allow that to happen again. Cancer cannot flourish in an alkaline environment, and you now have an effective way to reduce acidity.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on June 13, 2008
at 5:12 pm
D.D.RED…
Thank you for sharing! I trust that you will continue to follow your body’s guidance in how to get to, and reduce the Lyme presence within it. Patience and forbearance will be your closest allies in this most personal of journeys.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on June 13, 2008
at 5:17 pm
P.
MMS can help remove more than Herpes. It only removes items — viruses, bacteria, heavy metal deposits, etc. — that do your body harm, so the name is meaningless.
You have very little to gain by not using it, and much to gain by experiencing for yourself how it effects *you*!
Whatever your decision, best of health to you.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on June 13, 2008
at 5:21 pm
Well, this is day 7 of my 15 drops x75 – three times a day. I never have felt sick but I’ve noticed that I’ve been pretty wired up the last few days – I just feel like I’m detoxing bigtime and am a bit jittery. But not bad – I went on a 3 mile walk yesterday – I find that walking/exercising helps with that detox feeling…..
I’m not sure what to do – from what I understand, I’m to stay on this (15 drops) for “about a week” and then drop back down to a smaller dose.
I read in the part 2 ebook, that for hepatitis, it’s pretty much the same – it did say to increase the dose if I was still feeling bad. But I don’t really feel bad – I’ve just never gotten sick from the stuff.
Do you have to get sick to know that it is working? Should I increase the dose?
Meanwhile, Adam, or anyone who might know, please advise me on this. I was going to take it at the current dose for another day or so and then drop back down unless anyone knows something different…?
Thanks!
Chris
By: Chris on June 13, 2008
at 6:14 pm
looks like femas going to force everyone to take vaccinations.
-http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/240506femaplan.htm
By: jared on June 14, 2008
at 2:33 am
I have a friend who had been diagnosed to be hepatitis b carrier since 1991. Despite the diagnosis, he did not get himself treated as he never felt any symptoms. It was only this year that the symptoms surfaced such as dull pain on the right side of the abdomen, jaundiced skin ( more visible on the hands and legs), ascites, bloating. etc…
I read about the MMS and told my friend that this might just work for him. He was very excited about this and he can’t wait to try it.
Adam, (or anyone that has the info/answer for this)
He wants to know what vitamin and mineral supplements he needs to take while taking the MMS.
Your advice will be much appreciated.
BA
By: concernedfriend on June 14, 2008
at 7:09 am
Hi BA,
Hepatitis B is easy to cure using MMS combine with ozone. At the same time your friend need to use Vitamin B12, E, Vitamin C, folic acid, Zinc. Within three months your friend will test negative to hepatitis B.
Chronic hepatitis B will need to have IV injection of MMS two times a week for one month to remove the virus completely. Most people use Ozone as well. Ask him to use the vitamins above and ask him to go to GP and have immunoglobins injection(vaccination for Hep B). This is a complete cure.
By: jenny on June 15, 2008
at 1:08 am
HI ba,
IV injection of MMS work faster to fight the hep B virus. Sometimes the virus build resistance which is easily overcome by intravenous chlorine dioxide. Your friend need a GP like me to supervise the IV INJECTION. Immunoglobins injection(vaccination for Hep B) IS IMPORTANT TOO AND THE VITAMINS.
GOOD LUCK
JENNY
By: jenny on June 15, 2008
at 1:17 am
Hi Jenny,
It is interesting and encouraging to see your posting on curing Hep B. Do you have any idea on curing Herpes HSV1 & 2? Thanks.
By: CH on June 15, 2008
at 4:26 am
Hi CH,
I dont know about herpes HSV 1 & 2? Try the MMS and see how u go. I heard MMS is good on herpes virus.
By: jenny on June 15, 2008
at 5:53 am
Thanks Jenny! I will see how it goes… thanks again.
By: CH on June 15, 2008
at 6:31 am
Hi Jenny,
Thanks so much for the informations…
I have some more questions to ask — how does an IV injection work, what is the protocol to follow? What is the formula and proportion used?
Again, in behalf of my friend, many many thanks.
By: concernedfriend on June 15, 2008
at 7:57 am
Hi All,
Just wondered if You people at MMS supplies where donating chemicals to the massive clean up in USA from flood damage thought it would be a great display of humanitarianism.
I do know Australia has so just wondered hope your all getting better Mike from CZ
By: justagoodlistner on June 15, 2008
at 9:12 pm
I took mms for about a week before doing a liver flush. I believe it was really helpful.
I just broke a 40 day master cleanse fast yesterday and feel amazing!!!
Would highly recommend it to help clean out toxins in the colon, intestines, liver, kidneys etc. Info here.
http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm
John
By: John on June 16, 2008
at 8:32 am
Hi CH,
What is your viral load of hepatitis B and your blood test result. With IV injection of MMS. Because you have chronic hepatitis B you need the IV injection that work fast. You add six to eight drops of MMS into a sodium chloride solution/normal saline. You need a GP to supervise. While taking MMS injection two times a week for two months depends on your viral load use Vitamin E, C, B12, folic acid. If it is possible Ozonate all your drinking water. Ozone inactivate hep. B virus.
IV injection of chlorine dioxide work to attack the hep. B virus, even if the virus build a resistance. The whole world cannot cure hepatitis B virus because many GP stop the treatment due to side effects and the virus multiply when they stop the treatment. You have to keep on having the injection until blood test showed negative hep B. When you feel sick about the injection take MMS orally may be ten to fifteen drops a day. At the end of the second month you need to take immunoglobins injection(vac for hepB virus). While the MMS attack the hep B virus, Ozone inactivates and support the MMS to kill the hep B virus in the body. Immunoglobin and vitamins boost your immune system(T cells) to fight the virus. The virus has no place to hide and they will all die. You cant get this information anywhere in the world.
Do all this and if you test negative to hep B virus after two to three months I will like you to send an email to me on yemi4444@justice.com. 100% guarantee.
jenny
jenny
jenny
By: jenny on June 17, 2008
at 6:25 am
Hi CH,
The hep B virus is difficult to fight thats why you need MMS injection, Ozone, Immunoglobins injection(vac for hepB) and the vitamins to completely remove the virus for a chronic hepatitis B.
Acute infection of hepatitis B only need intravenous Vitamin C and immune booster(interferon) or lactofferin to clear the virus.
By: jenny on June 17, 2008
at 6:43 am
Hi Jenny,
Thanks for your posting on Hep.B. I think you had mistaken me as “concernedfriend” which had made further questions on Hep b protocol. Nonetheless, thanks!
CH
By: CH on June 17, 2008
at 11:12 pm
Hi Adam,
Thanks for helping
It’s encouraging to hear you say that MMS can remove herpes
It would also help a lot if someone could give some more information on how to rid the virus, for example to combine something with MMS…
just like how jenny explained on how to treat hepB..
Anyone?
Regards P.
By: P. on June 18, 2008
at 9:58 am
Jim Humble has known me for years, and I’d like to hear back from him. Jim, look at http://www.kcby.com click on the news at noon button, then about 5 names down the left side.
David
By: David Waite on June 19, 2008
at 6:23 am
Hi d.d.red. Sorry this post is so much later than yours, but I haven’t been to this site in a while…. Last night, my husband and I were trying to get more information on Lyme and MMS for someone, when we came upon a series of YouTube videos posted by a 33 year-old American. He talks about his experiences and reactions to the MMS protocol, and I think you might find it very interesting. Try finding him at http://www.youtube.com/user/theincrediblejy We found the site by Google-ing Lyme disease and MMS, and going to his”MMS Vs. Lyme” Blog. Best of luck with your treatments!
By: Julie on June 20, 2008
at 2:50 pm
Hi everybody, I recently ordered some mms to boost my health. I don’t have any disease that I know of. So a few days ago I added 5 drops of citric acid to one drop of MMS, waited the 3 minutes and added the water. I didn’t want to drink it all at once so I just started to sip, after about half an hour and half of the mixture, my heartbeat became really rapid and my pupils were dilated, I was really scared and after about an hour I drank a lot of orange juice to counter act the mms. Any one else had this reaction? For a few days after this, I have had a kind of funny feeling in my head, I call it ’swimmy head’. Can anyone give me some advice. Was it a panic attack?
By: Tom Walsh on June 20, 2008
at 5:31 pm
Tom,
You have to be kidding…. 1 drop ???
By: Clint on June 20, 2008
at 9:04 pm
No, I’m not kidding. I was a bit nervous just before taking so I’m starting to think i was more of a psychological reaction but if anyone can give me some advice it would be great.
By: Tom Walsh on June 21, 2008
at 5:51 am
You might try using Lemon as an activator…. and…..
still using ONLY one drop of MMS – to 5 drops of Lemon….. wait 3 min, add 4 oz. of juice of your choice….then, split that volume in HALF…..so your actually taking only 1/2 a drop (so, your drinking 2 oz. of juice)
Have the above 5 hours after a meal, or in the evening time before you go to bed…. and think good thoughts….
Clint
By: Clint on June 21, 2008
at 8:09 am
Hi there. I am a bit concerned about MMS! I received the MMS & citric acid solution about two weeks ago and have taken MMS (almost) daily. I ramped up the dose fairly quickly because I hadn’t felt any effects after 7 drops so I was at 12 within a few days. I have generally only taken this once or twice a day. The first major reaction was diarrhea complete with a mad headache – which I’ve experienced before as a herx response. Thereafter, I had a few instances of burning sensations in the base of my spine. I also had a wild experience of crazy images flashing through my mind before crashing hard into sleep (at a time when I wasn’t tired at all).
This is all cool and I’m down with it
However! The other day I took 14 drops on an empty stomach in the morning (7:30) and I had wicked diarrhea until about 8:30 that night. It was ridiculous – I could not leave the bathroom for more than 15 minutes – and I did not have anything to eat all day. I also had really intense pain and stomach cramping all day long. The following day my stomach still hurt (even without any MMS). And basically – all of this has scared me more than a little bit!
So.. two days later, I want to take the MMS but I don’t want to cause any permanent damage – and I’m still experiencing a bit of nausea.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks for any input!
By: Michelle on June 21, 2008
at 10:08 am
Michelle,
There is a reason that the directions say, “start with 1-2 drops, and work a drop at a time”….. you skipped ahead, and are now paying the price.
Your body never had a chance to dump toxins at the rate that IT was accustomed to, instead….you chose to put the detox process on fast-forward.
Think of it this way…. your body/system has accumulated 20, 30, maybe 40 years worth of toxin’s (depending on how old you are)…. your system just can’t dump all those layers of junk in say 2 weeks, just because you get impatient and decide to jump the drops up and get immediate results.
The Body is ALWAYS right… be patient.
My suggestion might be to wait a few weeks, then start back at 4 drops, and work your way back, increasing a drop a day at a time.
Be drinking LOTS of water to be sure your giving toxins a path to travel out of your body…and your diet needs to be good.
good luck,
Clint
By: Clint on June 21, 2008
at 10:43 am
Thanks Clint, I’ll try that!
By: Tom Walsh on June 21, 2008
at 12:35 pm
Thanks for your input Clint
The strange thing is though.. that I had been taking 14 drops once or twice a day for over a week with no intense response – so for it to happen all of the sudden just doesn’t make much sense to me.
My body does have a lot going on though! I have celiac disease, osteoporosis (prob. due to celiac), and a fun case of molluscum (a self-limiting viral skin condition – that I think has been limited by MMS! Yay!). Plus I have *lots* of food allergies (dairy, eggs, sesame, rice protein..)
My goal with MMS is to get my immune system to work properly again (celiac is autoimmune). I (personally) believe that celiac is caused by a virus they haven’t figured out yet. Most claim that it is viral but I have read hundreds of medical journals on the subject and the two genes they have linked to celiac are present in 30% of the population while only 1% has celiac. Seems pretty weak to me!
Another thing… since January my tongue has had an odd yellow/orange tint to it – which freaks me out and makes me worry about my liver. If anyone has any idea what might cause this – I’d love to hear it.
Thanks to all for sharing your experiences and advice!
– Michelle
p.s. Only 35 years of toxins
By: Michelle on June 21, 2008
at 3:21 pm
Oops – the above comment was meant to say that “most claim that it is GENETIC”
I’m sure the genetic factor has something to do with it – but I would think that it would be more of a weakness to a virus than the actual cause of the disease.
By: Michelle on June 21, 2008
at 3:24 pm
Michelle,
Have you considered taking the ‘Molecula Silver’ ?…along WITH the MMS ?
Your right, your do have a lot going on in that body of yours, ad it might be a while til your over the hump of the huge dumping of toxins and virals.
Here’s the link for the Silver:
http://www.clo2plus.com/
P.S.
Have you had a few colonics to clean your colon out?
Clint
By: Clint on June 21, 2008
at 11:01 pm
Clint,
You know.. as luck would have it… I actually have a bottle of the molecula silver right here!
For some reason, I haven’t (really) taken it. I’ve put a bit (1-2 tsp) under my tongue and left it there for a minute – but I haven’t really gotten into it.
As I ordered a package of the MMS (from the site you suggested, actually), I thought “what the hell” and picked the one with the silver.
I have tried colloidal silver before though and haven’t gotten much out of it. What led me to do so was this.. http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1.htm
I managed health food stores for about 3 years and am pretty up on the whole alternative healthcare deal
Perhaps the reason I haven’t taken the silver is because it’s in a little 8 serving bottle – and with 2 servings/day, that wont last long! I’m not exactly sure that 4 days of silver would do anything at all. Know what I’m sayin?
Recently I’ve thrown some new stuff into the MMS mix: Himalaya LiverCare and Himalaya HemoCare (Blood purification). I think that you are absolutely right about dumping toxins and these two products should help me to do that a little more smoothly. (BTW – for research on Himalaya products: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/researchpaper/liv52.htm )
You might notice that I prefer to take things that have peer reviewed publications behind them
Anyway – can you please tell me where I can find out *more* about the molecula silver? Right now all I’m finding is “This stuff works!” – rather than “This stuff works by…” and “The way to take this is..”
Your advice is deeply appreciated
Thank you!
– Michelle
p.s. Check out those links! Especially the silver one!
By: Michelle on June 22, 2008
at 1:29 am
Oh, and about the colonics – I had one last year after doing a “master cleanse” (which effectively destroyed my metabolism, damn it!) – and it didn’t seem to make a lot of difference.
I’m a recovering born-again-college-student and have little cash to invest in colonics right now anyway. Perhaps in a while..
By: Michelle on June 22, 2008
at 1:35 am
Gotta get the “pipes” clean Michelle….don’t mean to preach… but it’s a given in order to heal properly.
Of course getting in some Pro-Biotics for the colon is a must as well…..
I know your fighting the good fight..
By: Clint on June 22, 2008
at 2:57 am
Dearest Clint,
I think that I’m going to work on my liver first (and once my previous comment passes the moderator, you’ll see how
)
I think Sandra Kabot (sp?) says it best…
“Although it is important to keep the intestines moving regularly and to sweep their walls with high fiber and living foods, it is important to remember that the bowels are really a channel of elimination and not a cleansing organ per se. In other words the bowels cannot cleanse, filter or remove toxic wastes from the bloodstream.”
As you so clearly indicated – there’ probably a lot of toxins in me that need to be wiped out! I’m taking some mineral/herbal laxatives to keep things moving – but I think I’d be wasting those capsules if I wasn’t working on the liver at the same time
I’m sure that MMS kills a lot of nasty stuff (viruses, etc.) but I want to make sure that once it’s done it’s job – the rest of my body can help to facilitate the healing process
And, yes, probiotics are always great! Good call!
By: Michelle on June 22, 2008
at 9:21 pm
p.s. Thank you for your thoughts!!
By: Michelle on June 22, 2008
at 9:22 pm
Can anyone tell me why my stomach is growing more and more distended every day?
I haven’t changed my eating habits at all and started taking a laxative formula a couple of days ago. Help!
By: Michelle on June 23, 2008
at 3:58 pm
I have started my MMS experiment recently and it’s been both encouraging/worrying. I have obviously seen many doctors about my problems to no avail – the first and probably least harmful being an ‘incurcable’ autoimmune skin condition.
Encouraging because it instantly helped a number of my sympstons. Worrying because I have new symptons and I may be getting closer to what the root of all my health problems might be, and it aint very pretty.
The post above me mentions about a distended stomach. I thought that was interesting because as I took more and more MMS i got headaches and had one really bad bout of constipation recently. Now i’m sure I have thyroid issues too but the constipation didn’t completely clear when I opened up again (or so it seems) and the right side of my stomach seems to be blocked/distended/painful and I’m on a lot of laxatives right now.
Having been off the MMS for a while I’m back on it and it’s been easier – I’ve have been able to get to the 10 drop mark today. Well, it’s definitely stirring some stuff up, bad diarrhea that is definitely not usual diarrhea and some nasty stuff beng expelled with it.
To cut a very long story short, taking MMS has been bringing me closer and closer to a conclusion that the root of all my health problems is due to some kind of horrible intestinal parasites. I would bet this is also the root the problem for a lot of people with multiple health issues.
My explosion of symptons in the past 9 months has external factors too but I believe the same root ‘problem’ to have caused my 5 year skin disease. I also believe that there might be something truly horrific in my stomach that the MMS has clearly had an effect on but not killed yet.
I am going to keep the same kind of tolerable dosage while it is blasting away at stuff/things and see what happens for now. The question is whether my stomach blockage is just remaining faecel matter or if there is something more sinister going on down there – stirred up by the MMS usage.
By: Matt on June 25, 2008
at 4:56 pm
Matt –
Good points. Lately I’ve been considering purchasing a parasite formula. But.. is MMS anti-parasitic?
My stomach is getting huge. I am not a big girl – even with the abdominal distension I’m a size 6 (okay, maybe close to an 8 when it’s really big!) – but.. honestly, I am looking totally out of proportion right now.
I seriously look pregnant! I’m pretty sure that’s not possible right now! And it wouldn’t be immaculate conception because I don’t even go to church ];)
By: Michelle on June 25, 2008
at 5:29 pm
the bloating sounds like a build up of wind (can be caused by parasites/die off gases) but i’m just guessing and its probably not if your not passing large amounts of wind frequently. mms is strongly anti-parasitic – parasites/parasite cells are killed by the high levels of oxygen.
for myself i am going to go onto an anti-parasite formula (a natural product called paratrex looks like the best one) as well as experimenting with highish doses of mms. i have also been using a product called coloson which is gentle, light colonic formula that breaks down junk in the intestinal tract using magnesium oxides. might be helpful.
interestingly i don’t think the mms was very useful at getting to the deep down and dirty stuff in my stomach at lower doses. its only today with my first higher dose (11 drops) that i’ve started to get ‘unusual’ diarrhea. i reckon taking it on an empty stomach first and last thing (and maybe with a small top-up dose shortly after the first one) is more effective – although some people can’t handle this.
my associated headaches also tend to be helped by taking iron tablets so something is clearly interfering with the oxygen supply getting pumped up to my brain sufficiently. however, i suspect that its not a result of the mms but a result of what is being killed off. a blocked stomach induces nasty headaches too though. confusing!
the average person would say to be trying all this stuff is ridicolous and risky – but i’ve made may more progress toward an overall diagnosis and solution than conventional doctors ever could.
the consultant urologist didn’t even entertain the idea that my chronic prostatitis could be due to anything other than a one-time infection (which it obviously wasn’t) or ‘autoimmunity’ – which might be partly correct, but i think its wise to be very sceptical of that label, especially as there’s no proper explanation of the cause or a cure.
i’d wager a large proportion of autoimmune conditions may be due to an immune reaction – but the reaction is to something tangible, not just something that randomly appears and dissapears and the body is left in this state of confusion indefinitely. there has to be some kind of stealth pathogens or parasites involved, especially in my case, as when i take mms my skin reaction/inflammation noticably decreases.
i’m sure a lot of people with chronic illness would rather be dead than without hope so i’m doing everything in my power to combat these problems now it’s come to a head.
peace.
By: Matt on June 25, 2008
at 7:01 pm
oh yeah and if clint is reading – i ordered some of that silver stuff to give a spin – any experiences with it?
By: Matt on June 25, 2008
at 7:32 pm
Hi Matt,
I Like the Silver I’m taking (The Molecula) …it’s the smallest particles (of Silver) I have seen yet, and feel it is a lot better than the other brands I have taken in the past.
I am going to soon be taking MMS by IV and am ordering the needles and bags for this…
In Jim’s video, he sais clearly that the MMS by passes the digestive process, and gets deeper into the system…
It’s all an experiment anyway…and all we each can do is share our experiences and learn from each other.
C
By: Clint on June 25, 2008
at 9:59 pm
Clint
Hey, I wanted to tell you that I put the molecula on my skin virus topically (twice a day, 2 days now) and I appear to be healing!
Yay!
I don’t know if this is because of the silver or the 3,000 other things that I’m doing – but I noticed a *huge* difference since I used the silver!
Thanks for the suggestion
By: Michelle on June 25, 2008
at 10:10 pm
thanks clint, look foward to trying it. indeed its a big experiment.
the depressing thing is that if the world wasn’t so corrupt these ‘cures’ that actually work would be that much further developed and in all likelyhood, nobody would suffer from obscure, ‘incurable’ diseases ;(
thank god for the internet though!
by the way has anyone tried teaga/tiaga tea? it’s supposedly the strongest immune modulator out there. i’ve been trying it and it does seem to fire up your immune system massively. bit of an odd indicator but my hair has noticably sprouted back on the ends of my eyebrows since starting on it! i don’t know why but its certainly a sign of much better health in some way or another!
its not great for autoimmune conditions as they may flare up but these killer/regenerative cells it stimulates can be benificial for certain conditions. there’s all kinds of miracle testimonies for it, mostly for cancer.
and there’s another item called taurox i’ve dabbled with a little – its a hi-tech immune modulating molecule marketed as a homeopathic remedy. supposed to be good at balancing the immune system when parts of it are over and under-active. most testimonies seem to centre around its ability to give with chronic-fatigue type symptons a lot more energy.
hope thats useful in some way. later
By: Matt on June 25, 2008
at 10:40 pm
Great Michelle,
Am glad your getting good results…I do feel it’s a great product.
Wanted to also say, that if I were to put the Silver on my skin, was curious if you ever tried using DMSO first (on the skin) and let the pores and cells open wide up to welcome the Silver into that area of the skin…it does seem to be many more times effective
(as well as taking MSM powder orally)
Here’s where I bought it:
www dot ihealthtree dot com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-2oz.html
Good luck
Clint
By: Clint on June 26, 2008
at 1:46 am
Hi,
Please advixe if MMS can be taken alongside chemotherapy or would these 2 treatments clash. Oncologist advised that no treatments which enhances oestrogen should be used.
Thanks
By: Payno on June 27, 2008
at 12:34 pm
To Michelle,
Same thing happened to me last year – was finally tested for celiac disease and went on gluten-free diet. Stomach bloating went away.
Chris
By: Chris on June 28, 2008
at 9:46 am
MMS so far for me has done nothing unless I have been taking it the wrong way.
I had posted on numerous forums and have not heard back from anyone. My doctor’s office is of no use – they’re still not sure how to use it.
I had worked my way up to 15 drops 3x a day with no reaction. I stayed on this dose for about 10 days then read somewhere that for someone my size, (5′4″ – 113), the dose is way too high.
Went down to twice daily dose of 5 drops then down to one dose. Then just to once a week, which I am on now.
Currently, I am undergoing the worst HHV2 breakout in two years. Thought that it worked with herpes viruses.
Now, I don’t know what to do – I had posted about hep-c and my 6 HHV infections – and like I said, it has not helped me at all – UNLESS I have done something wrong or that it does not work for me.
Bummer.
Nola Chris
By: Chris on June 28, 2008
at 9:52 am
Chris –
Well, I’ve been on the GF diet for over 3 years now so I don’t think that’s it
As for the herpes virus breakouts – I’ve read (and heard from many people while managing health food stores) that taking a tablespoon (or 3!) a day of coconut oil eliminates outbreaks. You might check it out. I’m not a big fan of taking the oil directly but if you mix in a little cocoa & sugar (or xylitol!) with coconut oil – it’s a yummy chocolate milk!
And since I’m a huge fan of tasty medicine.. 
Also, look into red marine algae (gigartina). And for hepatitis – himalaya livercare!!!!!!! (see one of my previous posts for a link to their research).
I’m trying to heal my overtox’d liver with the livercare formula but have become addicted to the MMS because of what it has done for my skin! If nothing else – my skin looks unbelievable – it is smoother than I’ve ever seen it before and the skin on my cheeks feels kind of thick (in a healthy baby sort of way). I love it! Of course, the MMS smell totally nauseates me so that part sucks – and I can’t get myself to do it more than once a day
I got so wicked sick with the MMS that one day that it threw me back a lot. I know that I need to up the dosage (I’m at 12 drops *once* a day) but – damn.
My skin virus is still kicking! (molluscum) Does anyone know how to use MMS topically? On the bottle that I have, it says *not* to use it topically – but in other forums I’ve read that people have used it topically with great success.
Please advise
Thank you!
— Michelle
By: Michelle on June 30, 2008
at 4:07 pm
Michelle,
I have used 8 drops MMS to 40 drops Citric Acid..let it sit 3 min., then apply with your fingertips to the affected area and let it do it’s work for a couple of hours.
This stuff WILL kill anything on your skin, and make it inert… I Would advise getting some DMSO Gel and applying that FIRST before you put the MMS solution on, making your skin more receptive to the Chlorine Dioxide. (let that stuff sit 5 min, then apply MMS)
Good luck,
Clint
By: Clint on June 30, 2008
at 11:26 pm
Does DMSO burn? I remember that my ex-bf got an (old) bottle from a friend and it burned his skin like crazy.
Though I understand the DMSO concept (I actually have a book on MSM) – I’m a bit scared to put it on my more sensitive areas, which is where I’ve got some bumps. Specifically, I have some on my bosom. There’s some delicate skin there!
Was my ex-bf burned because the bottle of DMSO was too old or is that to be expected?
Thanks,
– Michelle
By: Michelle on July 1, 2008
at 7:33 am
Michelle,
Good for you for going gf years ago – wonder why your stomach is bloating?
I pulled up my MMS ebook and read where it says that some severe herpes viruses might have to be treated for a few months and/or increase the dosage up to 25 drops. I had gone back to once a day maintainance but now think that I will just start over again and increase the drops until I do feel sick – I never did.
Clint,
I’ll also try using mms topically – I was very bummed as I thought that with the dose that I was taking, it would kill any virus internally….
Thanks for your responses!
Chris
By: Chris on July 1, 2008
at 7:35 am
Chris,
I have read and that the longer a person has the Herpes virus, the longer you’ll need to get rid of it…as well as you might have to consider taking the MMS by IV to bypass the digestive system and go directly into the blood (as have it be a bigger force when it reached the blood)
Michelle,
The DMSO CAN burn, depending on what brand/kind your applying as well as what concentration you using.
I use the ‘DMSO Gel’ in the Red label (which is 70% DMSO & 30% distilled Water)…..
By: Clint on July 1, 2008
at 6:56 pm
Chris,
I have read and that the longer a person has the Herpes virus, the longer you’ll need to get rid of it…as well as you might have to consider taking the MMS by IV to bypass the digestive system and go directly into the blood (as have it be a bigger force when it reached the blood)
Michelle,
The DMSO CAN burn, depending on what brand/kind your applying as well as what concentration you using.
I use the ‘DMSO Gel’ in the Red label (which is 70% DMSO & 30% distilled Water)….. it still stings but leaves no marks. Its great.
Google DMSO Gel, and you’ll find it.
Clint
By: Clint on July 1, 2008
at 6:58 pm
Hi Chris and P,
I found the following posting at the following website and hope this is real and will encourage all of us.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319883/pg2
// Quote //
reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Anonymous ATS
Just as anecdotal evidence…
My boyfriend has Herpes II, and took mms for 12 weeks. Before he had outbreaks once or twice a month. Since he started the mms (progressing from 1 to 5 drops, once a day), his symptoms have stopped. He stopped taking it over a month ago and hasn’t had an outbreak since.
I took it for 8 weeks (working up to 11 drops twice a day) due to parasites (from living in SE asia). The problems I had from them seem to be resolved.
I realize this isn’t valuable to those who insist on large clinical studies, so take it for what it’s worth to you…
Also, you can go to http://www.curezone.com – they have a huge list that was very helpful to me.
Sometimes the solutions are very simple. I fear that as a society we expect solutions to be complex and expensive, and especially we need an authority figure to tell us what to do with our own bodies.
It’s YOUR body – you decide.
Peace.
// unquote//
CH
By: CH on July 2, 2008
at 8:01 am
Nice comments CH
Okay – this morning I used the DMSO gel (a 70% DMSO, 30% aloe blend) on deeply cleansed skin – I left it on for 3 minutes and then applied the molecula silver. Once that had dried out, I put on a layer of coconut oil (which is supposed to be useful for molluscum).
Cross your fingers for me
If this doesn’t work in a couple of days, I’ll switch to the same protocol using MMS instead of silver.
Anyone have any better suggestions?
thanks
By: Michelle on July 2, 2008
at 10:52 am
Michelle,
Be careful when applying MMS topically. It was very helpful for a burn for me; however, my son applied it incorrectly and ended up with a chemical burn. Be sure you check Jim Humble’s book for the correct way to use it before going ahead.
By: Mari on July 3, 2008
at 4:30 pm
Hi CH
Thanks for the post
Ofcourse these stories are encouraging:)
But what bothers me about stories like this is that she mentions that the OUTBREAKS have stopped…this doesnt mean the virus is gone…
Ofcourse having no outbreaks is wonderful but you can still pass the virus to others when it’s still in ur body whether you have outbreaks or not.
I wish someone could figure a way to check if it’s really gone after using MMS
By: P. on July 4, 2008
at 2:19 pm
Interesting site, more interesting is there is not an area to e-mail questions such as has any pre and post blood or urine been done on individuals who have taken this porduct to prove it’s efficacy. That is a simple test population. If the product is as good as stated let’s put it to the test. James Stivaly LMT
By: James Stivaly on July 5, 2008
at 4:42 am
Well, I did the DMSO & molecula silver thing – and had a seriously bad reaction. The bumps spread
It’s awful and I wish I could get rid of this. I am heartbroken.
One thing though.. the other day when I went to the store to buy juice for mixing MMS – because my gag reflex goes nuts when I even smell the other juice I’d been using – I noticed a clearance rack that had dramamine on it.
Now I take the dramamine within a minute of taking the MMS and I’m able to do 12 or 13 drops twice a day – I could probably do it 3 times, but haven’t yet.
You might think of doing this. I am not concerned about suppressing vomiting, because I just don’t throw up – even when I did 14 drops on an empty stomach, I just *felt* like throwing up but never could. So, I think this is a good thing for me.
I’m definitely going to hit it at a higher dose over the next week and hope like hell that it does something.
My results so far is that it has completely eradicated a candida infection I had for many years – that didn’t go away with anything else, including 6 weeks on diflucan and every herb imaginable.
When I take a dose, soon after I feel a burning sensation in my spine. I know that a lot of viruses go dormant in the spine so I’m guessing that I’m killing something.
I hope so
I’m getting tired of this one particular skin virus and I’d really like my immune system to be able to only focus on taking that one out. I guess it’s just got more important stuff to work on now.
– Michelle
By: Michelle on July 5, 2008
at 12:24 pm
Hi P,
Thanks for your posting. I share the same view as yours.
Pls find the following news link, a cure for herpes might be coming.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1460794/cure_for_herpes_may_be_coming_soon/index.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/wireStory?id=5296774
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=39717
Thanks and take care!
By: CH on July 5, 2008
at 6:06 pm
Julie…thanks for the referral to YouTube clip on MMS and Lyme. Now I do not feel quite as hopeless as i did prior to viewing this video.
I have been thinking that the MMS is not doing all that much. It has cleared up my skin and lessened wrinkles…good for my vanity…but otherwise, I continue to react as I did when I started about 40 days ago.
In fact, I have had to lessen the amount I take and sometimes skip a day because I have a stressful career and I must continue to function at a relatively high level a lot of the time.
I sleep alot and I hardly socialize after work anymore because using MMS makes me weary. My level of pain has increased significantly which is not pleasant. I am wondering when it will begin to decrease again.
By: d.d.red on July 6, 2008
at 9:05 pm
I have some questions about the function of MMS. I am not a scientist and need some scientific help figuring out some things.
I have been taking MMS for more than a month at 15 drops per day. I have experienced a bit of loose stool, but nothing major. I have gotten no relief from my symptoms and I am trying to understand why.
I know that vit C will neutralize the MMS. I take a multi-vitamin in the morning and the MMS at night. I also found vit C and ascorbic acid in several of the herbs I take, so I have switched them all to morning as well.
Is it possible that this small amount of vit C in my system, even 12 hours later, is enough to neutralize the MMS? Here I am making an assumption. I am assuming that once the antioxidant has been absorbed, it is no longer an active agent against the MMS. That may not be a valid assumption.
Which leads me to my next question: I also take a Glutathione support product. Glutathione regulates the antioxidant redox state, and allows the body to recycle its store of antioxidants including: vitamin A, C, E and Co-enzyme Q10. Glutathione is the antioxidant that is prevalent in every cell in the human body. Glutathione is primarily synthesized in the liver where it is abundantly present. Glutathione is a water soluble antioxidant, like vit C. It also has a very high electron donating capacity.
All of this makes me think it would cancel the effects of MMS as does Vit C by donating electrons to the MMS. However, you body needs an abundance of Glutathione for the proper function of the brain, liver etc.
Someone that understands Chemistry, please inform me in non-scientific terms
By: cassie on July 14, 2008
at 7:33 am
To the lady with the swollen belly.
If the enlarging has been slow (months), check your hormone levels.
If it has happened quickly (days or weeks) consider a peritoneal infection. In women, cysts can develop on ovaries and rupture, causing an infection in the abdominal cavity. You almost feel like you are getting PMS with swollen and tender belly, possible pain at location of ovaries and even a back ache.
By: cassie on July 14, 2008
at 7:40 am
Hi CH
Thanks for the links
I just came home from my holidays and the links made my mood:) I hope those medicins will come soon
Are you using MMS? Or planning to?
Take care
P
By: P. on July 14, 2008
at 8:53 am
Cassie,
When I started taking MMS, I got OFF ALL vitamin supplements.. ALL !! I didn’t even want to have to wonder if anything was interfering with the MMS’s operation in the body.
I feel people should cycle their vitamins anyway, and stay off them 2x’s a year and then re- introduce them to the body.
The ONLY thing I take with MMS is MSM (yes, I know…same initials) MSM meaning the sulphur mineral Methylsulfonylmethane … I feel, and was told, that the MSM helps the MMS go to a deeper level in the body, cause it naturally opens up the Detoxification pathways in the body…as well as let the MMS in deeper.
just my 2c,
Clint
By: Clint on July 14, 2008
at 7:39 pm
Thank you.
By: cassie on July 15, 2008
at 1:22 pm
I have been taking mms for six months and sleep so good. At first i took it more now I only take it twice a week.
I have a daughter who is 28 yrs old wiyh four miracle children. She has had four heart valve replacement surgeries. She has allergies very bad.
When I take the supplement mms for my allergey symptons they leave. I so want to give the mms solution to her.
With Jim’s understanding of the mms I hope that he could tell me if it would affect her valve that isn’t her’s. It is a pig valve.
Hope you know about this. I want her to get some relief. She has been sleeping and breathing through her mouth as her head and nose are so conjested. She doesn’t like to take over the counter medicine but has been taking Afrin drops for three days and knows that isn’t going to help.
Please respond asap. Thanks
By: eileen on July 16, 2008
at 9:17 am
eileen,
If I may, I’d HIGHLY recommend taking the MSM
(Methylsulfonylmethane) Powder … the sulphur mineral supplement ( 1/2 tsp 4x’s a day…with meals)
This pretty much made my allergies go away !
Also eliminating the mucous forming foods (flour products, ALL dairy food, etc…) needs to be considered.
Also, making sure her colon is moving and cleaned out is a must…..as Colon and Lungs are related when treating each other.
my 2c
Clint
By: Clint on July 16, 2008
at 8:38 pm
Hi P,
I have been taking MMS 15 x 2 for 30 days now trying to erradicate the HSV1 (oral herpes) which I accidentally caught in Feb 08 after being accidentally kissed by someone.
There is no visible blisters, ulcers etc in my case but have been having pain on my lips, gums and neuralgia on my facial nerves almost non-stop since May 08.
I will continue MMS for another 2 months to see what will be the results like….. it is really painful everyday….
I hope that someone can find a way to get rid of this disease the soonest.
You take care too.
Regards,
CH
By: CH on July 17, 2008
at 5:02 am
Heey Chris,
accidently kissed? haha funny one:)
Well I hope MMS will solve your problem..
I didnt knew oral herpes could be that painful
Do keep us updated:)
Regards,
P
By: P. on July 17, 2008
at 11:46 am
Hi Adam,
A number of people are worried that MMS might have an ageing effect? There’s so much hype about anti-oxidants, and here we’re using a GREAT OXIDANT! So if the chlorine dioxide grabs electrons from the pathogens and is destroyed in the process, do those electrons become free radicals?
Many thanks for your great answers!
Iahaia.
By: Iahaia on July 22, 2008
at 8:03 pm
Jim Humble claims that MMS CURES AIDS after people use it for long.
He claims that people becone NEGATIVE after using MMS.
However Adam says MMS DOES not cure HIV.
Who is fooling who?
If HIV is a virus like others, why cant MMS cure it as Jim claims but Adam disputes.
I also have not seen a SINGLE testimonial of anybody getting CURED of HIV though Jim says people told him they became negatoive after taking MMS. Please Adam, can you clarify this point?
Lastly, how long should somebody take MMS before he is CURED of HIV if infact it can CUE it.
Thanks
By: Peter on July 24, 2008
at 2:21 pm
Dear Peter,
If you have AIDS, then it doesn’t matter what either Jim or I say. What matters is what YOU think about it, and what you do about the situation. MMS can help.
Jim states what he’s seen with people dealing with AIDS. There is no dispute here.
He has no reason to exaggerate any claims, when his protocol is proven itself to be effective for so many people as he said it would be.
However, Jim knows, and has stated many times, that THE BODY heals itself, which I agree. I’ll go a step further to say that the body will heal itself IF the individual is committed to letting go of his or her disease. I’m not talking about viruses and bugs; I’m talking about attitudes, behaviors, and beliefs that don’t serve one’s best interests. This is not a moralistic observation. It’s about perceptions of power (or powerlessness), worthiness (or worthlessness), passion, and commitment to follow where the heart beckons.
Believe it or not, everyone who says they want to be well, aren’t really ready to do so.
Assuming that one is truly ready to be well again, and believes he or she *will* do it, MMS *will* reduce or remove many of the *pollutants* that compromise the body’s ability to heal.
Jim also knows, and has stated that MMS the body needs key nutrients to repair itself, and that MMS is not a nutrient.
A person with AIDS needs very specialized treatment, and no *one* thing that we know of is going to simply make it go away. However, MMS is one thing that can help.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on July 25, 2008
at 12:17 am
Interesting,
I just started MMS, and I did feel a bit nauseous, but nothing that came near vomiting. I have always had a stong stomach, so it didn’t bother me much, little bit of belching relieved feeling, and now I am up to 6 drops using lemon juice and magnetized conditioned water, not ionized.
I have had a problem with periodontal disease, but the real issue was a tooth that was bothering me, but when I went to dentist, Xrays showed no decay, so root canal was suggested as it may have been a small crack not detected with Xrays.
Long story short, I was sent to specialist and they couldn’t see anthing either, but hit was still hot and cold sensitive, so they thought is may be infection, so they prescribed antibiotic, which I didn’t take, never have, sorry, but as many know, this is why our immune systems are so compromised, too many antibiotics being prescribed.
I tolerated it for three years, it gets sensitive sporadically, so if I don’t chew on that side, it remains in check along with peroxide brushing, so I thought MMS may be worth a try. Much to my amazment, I can bite down full force and feel no pain after only a few days and now at just 6 drops twice a day.
I have not been totally pain free in three years, so this was rather dramitic results in my opinion, and I remain a skeptic until I see results personally, and I have. I don’t know about reversing the periodonal disease just yet, but I am just ecstatic over no more pain or sensitivity, so this proves something is happening, what, I don’t know yet.
Great thread, thanks to everyone who has contributed to date, it has opened my eye to even more potential uses. My daughter has juvenile diabetes and thyroid issue, so I will report back on her results as I hope all others will on these specific issues.
Health Without Wealth is Worthless,
By: BeachBody on July 27, 2008
at 11:07 am
Hmmm….shouldn’t it be . . .
‘Wealth without health is worthless” ??
By: Clint on July 29, 2008
at 7:32 pm
Hi once again to all who use this wonderful rescource, I have been off MMS for a while but after a 2nd bout of VERY swollen face (right side only) also just under the ear going into the neck, I took MMS 7 drops again today. I have a loose tooth and believe it has affected my saliva glands. about 5 hours after the MMS I am getting a rush of cloudy and salty saliva coming from the right side of my mouth, seems to be coming from under my tongue.Any way the MMS seems to be working as I felt like s..t all afternoon, headache and fuzzy feeling and wanting to go and have a sleep, but will persist with the MMS until the swelling goes away.Any ideas anyone of wether I am right in my self diagnosis? I avoid antibotics like the plague!!!
By: Clare on July 30, 2008
at 1:12 am
Has anyone out there used MMS after being diagnosed with Scleroderma? I am currently under the care of a rheumatologist who has me a a reiment of Methotrexate and Cellcept, but my symptoms continue to get worse several months into the treatment. Symptoms include: tighterning (hardening of the skin) severe joint pain and restriction of movement in joints, swollen& tight feet and lower legs, and just recently some fibrosis on a lung.
By: Sue on August 5, 2008
at 5:04 pm
Sue….
If I may, I’d HIGHLY recommend taking the MSM
(Methylsulfonylmethane) Powder … the sulphur mineral supplement ( 1/2 tsp 4x’s a day…with meals)
It’ll change your life.
Clint
By: Clint on August 5, 2008
at 7:55 pm
clint,
Please share more. what do you know about MSM and Scleroderma?
Sue
By: Sue on August 5, 2008
at 9:10 pm
I have a blog at http://houseofbugs.com/weblog/?site_id=309 and I report on my personal journey with MMS. Yes I have had some pretty heavy nausea and vomiting and diahhrea. I was prepared for it because I have been reading the Humble websites(I have links posted there at the blog). One in particular is a Jim Humble question and answer section about using the product.
I might caution anyone taking this product, that I have experienced a “next day nausea” rather than an immediate one.
So if you are just starting out taking the product, you might want to take it very slowly so you don’t overdose and cause a rush of toxins out of your body and the associated nausea.
I suggest giving yourself a day to see how your chosen dose will affect you. Same day overall nausea etc. reactions to the dose I decide on have not usually happened, but 2nd day reactions have happened often. Also the nausea on the 2nd day was set off more when I continued higher doses on the 2nd day.
Overall I feel lots better, MMS has cured my lung infection(from what I do not know but it is gone hallelujiah), and a bad blood poisoning type infection from a cut on the outside of my finger that was black and had made a vein trail up my arm. So I am pretty positive about the whole experience.
I went to the jim humble site on questions and answers that I posted in my blog, and got the topical solution formula. It is stronger than what you take internally because jim indicated on his site that outside the skin requires a stronger dose and the mixture that he suggested will last for 3 days as he indicated.
I discuss my whole experience, which is ongoing, on my blog(listed above).
I am going to link a track back to this discussion on the blog as well.
Good luck,
Roy
By: roy on August 6, 2008
at 2:27 am
This is a very good point below and no one has seemed to address this concern. anyone have any thoughts? what does happen to the electrons that mms causes to dissipate?
Hi Adam,
A number of people are worried that MMS might have an ageing effect? There’s so much hype about anti-oxidants, and here we’re using a GREAT OXIDANT! So if the chlorine dioxide grabs electrons from the pathogens and is destroyed in the process, do those electrons become free radicals?
Many thanks for your great answers!
Iahaia.
By: Charlie on August 6, 2008
at 6:21 pm
Charlie,
Ozone and hydrogen peroxide can do damage to your cells, which can help the microorganisms.
Ozone is the most powerful oxidizer known of the important oxidizers. Hydrogen peroxide is second. MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) is the weakest oxidizer known and it cannot damage body cells.
The strong oxidizers don’t kill any more pathogens than Chlorine dioxide, in fact not as much, but they can kill good cells. Chlorine dioxide kills all of the pathogen and oxidizes the heavy metals.
By: Clint on August 6, 2008
at 8:14 pm
I have ordered this product at this webiste
http://miraclemineralsupplement.ca/
and the next day asked for a refund because I discovered that I had ordered way too much and that I might have problems with customs and so prefered to get it from a supplier in Australia.
My request for a refund has been ignored and over two weeks later nothing has arrived in the mail. My credit card was billed and so I am warning people reading this site to let the buyer beware.
I have also learned that the ingredients in this are used to make homemade bombs and I am hoping and praying that my order has not been held up in customs and myself and family suspected as terrorists.
By: Karen on August 16, 2008
at 3:27 pm
Karen,
I usually suggest people buy MMS from sites that say “Approved by Jim Humble” on it !
Is see no where on your site that you bought from, where it sais that…. just fyi,
Clint
By: Clint on August 17, 2008
at 11:42 pm
Hello Jim, I am seeking the details ,what is the difference between Nacl and Nacl02? ,I asked my Pharmacist to make a 28%solution in Distalled water;she did, a half liter. Yet on the bottle she gave to me it reads Nacl, i asked for Nacl02. Any Help.?? I also recieved from her, granulated pure citric acid,yet i dont know how much of the granulated form i should liquify in distalled water.Please write a small protocol,for this. I added 3 drops MMS to a small glass of Distalled H20,that had citric acid in,yet there was no smell. Should i add only the mms to liqufied citric acid? Thanks,and thanks fro your work.Best regards.MW
By: mark williams on August 19, 2008
at 9:57 pm
Whatever happend to howie?
Haven’t heard from him.
Is he still alive?
By: Ozz on August 20, 2008
at 10:20 am
I was thinking why the MMS can’t be given to AIDS victims. Because they have no hope left. Why can’t try this.
If it heals ……good
otherwise —sorry.
By: Rohan on August 22, 2008
at 11:51 pm
Rohan:
It CAN be given to people with AIDS… they simply have to take it upon themselves to be their own doctors, and do it themselves, and not wait for a doctor to step up to the plate.
No doctor in America will suggest taking MMS when their support and funding is coming from the AMA and the FDA….
Clint
By: Clint on August 24, 2008
at 8:53 pm
I’m just beginning to learn more about MMS.
- I’m wondering if you’ve heard of anyone who’s had remission from Melonoma cancer?
- Also I have 2 friends who suffer from migraines. and one who has terrible arthritis. Any reports on how MMS does for those afflictions?
Thanks,
Jay
By: Jay Kelly on August 27, 2008
at 9:57 am
CH
How are u doing?
Any results yet:)?
tc
By: P. on September 2, 2008
at 5:57 am
Hi Jay,
Not being smart, but read Jim Humble’s books. He discusses treatment for melanoma in some detail.
Best wishes,
Neil
By: Neil on September 2, 2008
at 6:02 am
Hey adam,
I am not sure if I have the hiv. I will do a test in 2 months. I want to ask that if i start using the MMS from now even if i am negative in hiv, do I will have problems with my healthy/?. Thank you in advance. P
By: P on September 3, 2008
at 2:32 am
I have tertiary syphilis.
By: Steve on September 3, 2008
at 2:08 pm
Is it common to get a skin rash that resembles mosquito bites on mms. I have been off MMS for a few weeks now and still getting occasional red itchy marks, mostly on my legs and wrist.
By: charlie on September 4, 2008
at 10:16 am
Wow Charlie….I have had those as well…. and I thought that all along that it was an outside cause.
When you scratch yours, do they seem to spread, the more you scratch ?
I usually end up putting MMS (10 drops MMS to 50 drops citric acid)..then put them on the affected areas, and they go away within the hour.
CLint
By: Clint on September 4, 2008
at 7:50 pm
P
While MMS is NOT a nutrient, it assists by what it eliminates from your body: that is, acid-producing and oxygen averse microorganisms, and more.
If this is not an issue for you, then there will be virtually no effect from taking it. If it is an issue, then taking it will reduce the population of aforementioned microorganisms, and their acid by-products.
I am learning much about DMSO… and will be writing more soon about it an MMS.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 5, 2008
at 12:27 am
Steve,
The same statements apply to you, as I suggested to P. You too should look into using MMS with DMSO… in fact, MMS and DMSO is a safe, beneficially potent combination.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 5, 2008
at 12:29 am
Charlie,
Another way to describe what we call “skin rashes” would be “microbial motility.” It’s a “fight or flight” drama being played out on a microscopic stage. Whenever microorganisms sense the imminent presence of something that can destroy them, they run. When they get to “edge” of the body, breaking through the dermis (skin), there’s no where else to run. They become toast.
This can happen with transdermal magnesium intake (which is nutritional in effect), as well as with MMS. Microbial movement in the body is far more prevalent that we tend to think about.
“Itching” is another form of microbial motility and activity.
Those red itchy places indicate the location of a anaerobic microbial colony, which can change in a very short period of time.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 5, 2008
at 12:38 am
Yo Clint,
MMS will definitely address the itchy-critters, actually reducing their numbers to a more manageable level that the immune system can handle on its own.
Warm regards and many thanks for your always positive and helpful contributions here,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 5, 2008
at 12:41 am
I worked up to 10 drops daily of MMS activated by the recommended citric acid and distilled water solution: no effects beyond a really vile rash on my wrist, and behind my left ear, of all places…. The tiny bumps secreted sticky liquid and did not respond to any treatment (hydrogen peroxide, iodine or any other topical disinfectant). I finally had to lower my intake to 3 drops per day, where I remain at present. The rashes have largely gone, though the back of my ear is still a bit of a mess. In addition, I developed small bumps on the forehead, an adolescent skin problem of the kind we all hope will remain buried in junior high school. My wife suffered the same kinds of problems. We have continued with vitamin supplements in rather average does, including vitamin C, but all of those taken early in the day with MMS coming late at night. Could there be a correlation, Clint?
Also, I wonder if anyone here has heard that MMS is effective against cysts and the like?
By: Jack on September 5, 2008
at 1:08 am
Jay,
My father-in-law had a large melanoma spot on the back of his hand, and after taking MMS for a few months (at average dose of 6-8 drops once a day) found that it got smaller, then brushed off and completely disappeared.
By: CdnFarmgirl on September 5, 2008
at 10:53 am
Wow, CdnFarmgirl, that is impressive! I have this nasty sebaceous cyst that has resisted all forms of conventional treatment for over a year. I am sticking with MMS largely in the hope of seeing that horror disappear once and for all. And I will be very gradually moving up from 3 drops daily to 6, where I plan to stay for the next few months of regular usage. I am also giving up vitamin C entirely for awhile to avoid interfering with MMS.
Does anyone know to make the topical MMS solution that can be applied to infections on the skin?
By: Jack on September 5, 2008
at 12:45 pm
Thanks Adam… just trying to help out.
I am STILL stunned about the little critters though…and what it is and where they cam from…cause I thought for SURE that I got those pimples from sitting outside at a restaurant that landed on my shirt collar.
The weird thing is, now, they keep coming back, in the same areas (my right side-back of neck…and under my left arm pit) it just bizarre.
I did MMS IV’s (yes, in the vein… 18 drops 2x’s a day for 2 weeks) and they never showed up, nothing ! …yet, when I take MMS orally…they appear every once in a while. I don’t get the ’sticky liquid’ that is talked about, but rather they are just extremely itchy…and they seem to spread the more I scratch.
I am still on the fence as to wether they are coming from the outside, or from the inside.
So, am not sure Jack what to tell you re the pimples.
Clint
By: Clint on September 5, 2008
at 2:19 pm
Hi Adam,
After using MMS 15 drops twice a day for six months now my hepatitis B is still undetectable level. i did a blood test and though the virus reduced but it is still there. Can you help please adam I am dying. Do you think i need the MMS injection or not please help.
John
By: john on September 6, 2008
at 5:43 am
John,
In one of my interviews with Jim Humble, he mentioned how effective MMS should be if used in conjunction with DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide). At the time I was still learning about MMS, so I took him on his word that DMSO could be helpful, but I did not explore it any further.
Recently and currently, I am learning about DMSO, and what Jim had to say about its potential use with MMS was, in my opinion, an understatement.
I would suggest that you read a protocol called, “The Overnight Cancer Cure.” Forget about the cancer reference. It outlines a way to get more MMS into the system than is generally practical when taken orally. This protocol calls for the transdermal intake of activated MMS, transported by DMSO. It addresses the ability to get larger amounts of chlorine dioxide in the system without having to deal with the issues of taste, and healing crises.
http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html
DMSO is a natural solution that is derived from wood pulp, is inexpensive to purchase, and has over four decades of definitive clinical research behind it that clearly demonstrates its (1) safety, as in non-toxicity, and (2) systemic and holistic benefits to the body… which, in part, explains why it is NOT fully approved for human use by the FDA.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 6, 2008
at 6:33 am
Thanks, Clint–it is somewhat heartening to know that I am not alone in dealing with corollary skin problems….
Does anyone here know how to make a topical MMS solution that can be used to treat an open wound?
By: Jack on September 6, 2008
at 11:46 pm
Jack:
It’s easy.. I use 10 drops MMS, and activate it with 50 drops Citric Acid… then, while it is sitting for 3 minutes, I apply DMSO Gel to the affected area….and let that soak in….THEN I apply (with my finger tips) the Activated MMS solution….I usually wash it off after 30 min…or sooner if I feel it is starting to burn (which rarely happens)
By: Clint on September 7, 2008
at 7:57 am
Thanks for your excellent response, Clint! Which DMSO gel do you prefer? I notice that unpleasant odor is always mentioned in relation to this important treatment–do you use a rose scented version or just go with the un-fragranced product? Which brand do you trust?
By: Jack on September 7, 2008
at 1:47 pm
I am looking at this page, Clint: http://search.store.yahoo.net/cgi-bin/nsearch?catalog=vitanet&query=DMSO%20gel&x=17&y=10
By: Jack on September 7, 2008
at 1:49 pm
BINGO Jack !!
Exactly my brand.
(great stuff)
By: Clint on September 7, 2008
at 2:26 pm
And sorry….3rd one down from the top..unscented (16oz.) Red label
By: Clint on September 7, 2008
at 2:29 pm
Adam,
Thanks for the response
You say “Those red itchy places indicate the location of a anaerobic microbial colony, which can change in a very short period of time.”
It has been almost a month since i have been off of MMS, and i continue to get those itchy red bumps. So the cause must be from something other than mms, yes?
By: charlie on September 9, 2008
at 2:51 pm
Charlie:
Have you already put MMS on your red itchy spots (topically) ?
Clint
By: Clint on September 9, 2008
at 4:06 pm
Thanks so much for your thoughtful advice, Clint. I have ordered the recommended DMSO gel and look forward to using the stuff as a prep for the topical MMS solution you have described above. I am also going to apply topical MMS solution to the red bumps that Charlie and I are both battling against. Mine are now mainly behind the right ear, and nothing conventional has made a dent, despite the fact that I am only using three drops of MMS daily, down from a high of ten drops a day just one week ago. My ambition is to use the topical DMSO in combination with the MMS solution to nuke the bumps, and then to increase my MMS intake to six drops daily again and stay there for a good long while, before making incremental increases over time, until I once again reach ten drops. One thing is sure, everyone reacts differently to MMS–important to gauge your own systemic reaction before going nuts in the dosage department.
By: Jack on September 9, 2008
at 8:51 pm
Jack, I would be stunned if the MMS (topically) doesn’t obliterate the red bumps within 24 hours.
I might try putting the DMSO on all the bumps you see….let the DMSO then soak in for 20 min….then, when there is barely any residue on the skin from the DMSO, dip your fingertips in the (10 drops MMS + 50 drops citric acid) solution…and apply liberally.
I’ve just left it on all night..and wake up next morning and apply again if need be.
Good luck,
Clint
By: Clint on September 9, 2008
at 10:58 pm
my bumps come and go, sometimes in the same spot. They may be there for most of the day, but by evening they are gone. Most of my bumps are on my legs. Some of them bleed when i itch. I have other bumps on my wrist and forearm, but not as severe. i just noticed one underneath my chin today. i suspect it is not the mms, but i did not get these bumps until i started taking mms. it really concerns me because a little over a year ago i had hodgkins lymphoma, and one of the symptoms of advanced disease is a rash. errrr. I’ll know for sure on friday. One good thing that may have come from MMS is my IBS symptoms. I am completely normal now.
By: charlie on September 10, 2008
at 10:09 am
I should also note i had a pet/ct scan done today, so if mms did anything good or bad, i should know and i’ll report on here. I took MMS for 3 weeks daily working up to 12 drops a day, morning and night.
By: charlie on September 10, 2008
at 10:11 am
Great Charlie…keep us posted !
By: Clint on September 10, 2008
at 12:55 pm
Wondering if anyone has experienced acute stomach pain after taking mms on an empty stomach. Had been up to 6 drops per day after eating, with some stomach discomfort and nausea. Using apple cider vinegar as allergic to lemon and citric fruits. Then did today on empty stomach accidentally and now in severe pain. Appreciate knowing if this is normal and what can be done to help the pain, if possible. Also, how long do most people need to take mms and at what dosage to see the benefits through?
Many thanks.. input much appreciated..
By: Brene on September 12, 2008
at 12:09 am
Breen,
What comes up for me is your hydration levels. How much water do you habitually take in? The nausea is indeed “normal” if you have a significant number of pathogens, anaerobic microorganisms, or parasites in the intestinal tract. The nauseous feeling is one result of their oxidation, the next step being elimination from the body by the quickest means possible. Diarrhea is one such way, but that is dependent on adequate amounts of water in the body.
It would be prudent to take *more* water than you’re used to prior to taking MMS. The body needs it under normal circumstances, but needs more under these circumstances.
I would also suggest that you use citric acid to activate the MMS instead of vinegar. I don’t believe that people are “allergic” to natural foods. However, the natural foods may trigger a healing response in the body that we find objectionable, and therefore take measures to avoid or stigmatize.
It’s very likely that citric foods trigger the release of something that your body wants to get rid of. Listen to it, and help it do its job, since it’s only job is to serve *your* highest needs.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 12, 2008
at 12:34 am
Hey Charlie,
As you have surmised, the MMS/chlorine dioxide doesn’t “cause” one to get rashes or blotchy skin. Rashes are outbreaks of “micro-critters” that have surfaced on some part of the body, which MMS/chlorine dioxide can and will oxidize.
You should also look into some of the “superfoods” to complement what the MMS does, such as marine phytoplankton. Your body still needs nutritional elements — amino acids, vitamin complexes and minerals, Omega 3 and more — to truly alkalize the body chemistry, get the job done and build up the immune system.
When you begin delivering enough oxygen to each cell, so that their voltage is normal, they will “zap” anaerobic micro-critters and pathogens on their own. Chlorine dioxide will reduce the pathogen count, but won’t increase cellular energy levels. Only real nutrition can do that.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 12, 2008
at 12:42 am
Hi, Adam
Our cat (a 7-year-old Maine Coon) has an orange discoloration in his eyes. The vet thinks it is cancerous, but the only way to be sure is to remove an entire eye for a biopsy.
Can MMS help our cat? What are the risks?
Thanks,
Samantha
By: Samantha on September 12, 2008
at 5:56 pm
Got the results from the scan. All is good, and i did have a slight reduction in inflammation from my IBS problems, but no way to tell if that was a result from MMS. Now i need to address mystery rash. I’ll try Adam’s suggestions on adding nutritional elements. Although i disagree on the alkalize theory. I don’t believe you can change that really. I think MMS really screwed me up. I don’t doubt its potential, but feel the human body is way too complex to rely on one thing to heal. It seems like anytime something goes wrong with someone on MMS their is a suggestion dictating something about one needing this and that to correct problems coming from MMS. My thoughts are that MMS is best in use with the aid of a physician, we should not self medicate with something this potent.
By: charlie on September 12, 2008
at 7:02 pm
Dear Samantha,
Given what I have learned about cancer over the past year, understanding the true pathology of its genesis and retreat, there is NO way I’d permanently sacrifice your cat’s eye on the “hunch” that it might be.
Whether it isn’t, or it is, the condition can be reversed.
You didn’t comment on how your cat is feeling or behaving (whether in pain, etc), so I suspect that’s not a factor at this point. And if you get to the real cause of the problem and correct it, the eye should respond positively too.
Given how the natural solvent dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO), gets into the blood stream and penetrates EVERY cell in the body, I would use it to begin dissolving the build-up that has backed up into the eye. I would also team DMSO up with MMS to oxidize any parasites that might be living there, and producing discharge that is stealing his sight.
I recently interviewed a 91 year young naturopathic doctor from Alabama, who uses DMSO to reverse a number of conditions that would be irreversible (and expensive) if “normal” medical treatment were applied. One of his practices is applying DMSO directly into the eye. He doesn’t wear glasses.
You can listen to my interview with him by clicking here
http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/1083/33/
(please notify me if this link is no longer active, as the podcast will have moved).
I’m not suggesting that you apply it directly to the cat’s eye… at least to begin. But it’s likely that the blockage can be either unblocked or the defecating parasite can be oxidized using these non-toxic compounds.
Another totally safe modality that I’d consider are giving him frequency-infused waters. I just returned form California interviewing people who have witnessed profound improvements in their animals using frequency-infused waters… two were dog owners… one of the dogs had an acute form of cancer. The owner didn’t discover this water product until *after* he allowed the doctor to amputate one of the dog’s legs. Within 7 days of treatment, the dog was acting normal again, even with the chemotherapy that the owner still allowed (which I believe was/is unnecessary).
The other owner’s dog had experienced a gradual but accelerated decline in health, with an extremely distended stomach, no appetite. The vet began prescribing drugs, steroids, etc., and the decline continued… this over a 7 month period. With the dog now close to death (which the doctor had been preparing them for), one of the owners was introduced to these frequency-infused water products, and having nothing to lose but the dog’s life, decided to try them.
Within 24-hours, the dog’s appetite returned, and within 7 days, he was his normal self. I saw both dogs, and videotaped both of these accounts.
The woman who told the dog owners about the “quantum waters” has a shelter for orphaned cats. She gets them as young as 1-day old, nurses them into life, then finds adoptive homes for them. She has been using these waters for several years, and have seen many “miraculous” *shifts* in their health. One nice thing about animals, they don’t have an ego or intellect that allows skepticism and doubt to cloud their judgment. If something is effective or corrective, they’ll have an innate knowing, and be receptive. That’s why they will often eat grass, much to owner’s chagrin.
The founder of the company that produces these waters was diagnosed with cervical cancer at age 50. She declined the standard treatment, and cured herself. That was 25 years ago. She discovered the principle of vibrational frequencies several years after, and is now an Energy Intuitive. You can listen to my conversation with her by clicking the link below:
http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/960/33/
And then visit http://www.quantumwaters.com
There are more ways to *re-sight* a cat… I’d do much more inquiry before letting someone do such a permanent mutilation.
Just my opinion.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 13, 2008
at 5:22 am
Dear Charlie,
The issue of alkalizing isn’t a theory, it’s an understood fact. There are several places within the human body that are, by their very design and nature, acidic — the stomach being and obvious one, and the skin (dermis) being another, but by its definition, a body in homeostasis means a body in pH balance, and pH balance means 7.3-7.4.
To say you don’t believe you can change your pH would mean you don’t believe your body can heal.
A medical doctor won a Nobel Prize in 1931, Otto Warburg, with the discovery and confirmation of the relationship between the mutagenic growth of cancer tumors and pH… acidity — which also means low pH, low oxygen and low cellular voltage and cell death — triggered cancer growth. As pH is raised, through the addition of oxygen at the cellular level, cancer tumors first went dormant (at 7.4 pH), then at 8.5 pH, disappeared on their own.
No battle needed, just an understanding of cause and effect.
I agree that the body is too complex to look to one thing to heal, especially if we’re talking about MMS. However, the body should be looked as a whole system unto itself, and not parsed into discrete components that don’t have any relationship with others, which is what traditional medicine does.
Your thoughts on self-medication would be, and will be practical when physicians, and the system that they operate within, is responsive to the *health* of the individual, and not the financial and influential health of their profession. Here and there, physicians *are* discovering, using, and administering MMS. However, at this point in time, they are a distinct minority.
DMSO has been around for over 40 years, with thousands upon thousands of clinical trials, studies, white papers, and physician led symposiums under its belt, and it has garnered only a sliver of approval for human use by the FDA, given the very broad range of natural, non-toxic benefit that it provides.
And the vibrational medicine that I referred to in my reply above is not yet on the radar for most people… Many will rationalize. “It’s too safe. It doesn’t involve any sacrifice. How can it be effective?”
Current medical orthodoxy would be very skeptical, because doctors aren’t trained to consider anything but pharmaceuticals. We celebrate TV programs that feature arrogant, insensitive, and dysfunctional doctors (e.g., “House”) who sit around guessing what’s wrong with their patients, and who play God with their physiology, and the drugs that might as well have come from the gods. We think that their way is the only “successful” way… that surviving *is* the triumph of the system. Our expectations and understanding are way too low, and the system is profiting nicely on the way things are presently done. They brag that people are living longer, but they don’t mention that they are getting sick earlier and therefore, living with disease longer.
So until the system demonstrates that it is looking out for me and *my* welfare, then I’d better be looking out for my own, otherwise I’ll be on welfare, and when the insurance runs out, still sick.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on September 13, 2008
at 5:51 am
Hi P,
I stopped MMS about 11 weeks ago since I took a course of Homoepathy. I am still experiencing non-stop Neuragia without having any outbreak of sores or blister…. I am restarting MMS…
CH
By: CH on September 17, 2008
at 1:57 am
Started on 1 drop, slight nausea. It is now 2 weeks later and I am on 15 drops 3 times a day. No nausea. I am trying to unblock the 80% blocked coronary arteries.
I’m also on 30grams vit c per day, the Pauling protocol + Strauss heart drops.
If after 1 week at 15 x 3 drops I will increase up to 30 drops.
Any opinions or comments?
By: Bill on September 24, 2008
at 11:28 pm
Thanks for the response adam. i agree with most of what you are saying. I think the human body is too complex for anyone to fully understand. I am still getting the “itchy red bumps” i talked to a friend of mine who is an herbalist. She suggested eating an unprocessed diet for a few weeks. take some burdock root and red clover. and do a body cleanse.
I am working on that now. too soon to see any results. I went to a dermatologist as well. He tells me it is classic hives. i agree with him. These “itchy red bumps” or hives did not occur until i took mms. so indirectly or directly i believe my seemingly chronic hives are a result of mms. grrr.
By: charlie on September 25, 2008
at 2:03 pm
Charlie:
Am glad to know someone else had this experience, and it wasn’t just ME….it drove me crazy trying to figure out WTF these were, and what was causing it.
Weird thing was for me, was that they came and went 3 times for me…BUT……when they came back each time…it was in the SAME place everytime (Back of neck, right side…… under left arm, near pit)
Fricken weird.
Clint
By: Clint on September 27, 2008
at 11:42 am
Clint, Charlie,
You have to remember that your skin is your third lung. You will heal from the inside out. You do not want to suppress these conditions back into the body. Deep healing for cronic condiitons brings on other conditions you will sometimes have to find another remedy for. I heard once for every year of a cronic condition, it takes 6 months with the right remedy to totally relieve that condition. Of course we are all different and the things we can try vary. Also, I found with my daughter when we eliminated glutin from our diet, her skin conditions improved greatly. (I’m a bad speller)
By: Nancy on September 28, 2008
at 3:08 pm
I agree Nancy….
That’s why when I had the breakout with the pimples … I put the MMS Solution on them…and it killed them almost immediately.
By: Clint on September 28, 2008
at 3:12 pm
I am on seizure medications: keppra, lamictal, and phenobarbital. Will MMS cause any type of adverse reaction if I take it with these chemicals? I will introduce MMS to my neurologist
By: melissa on September 30, 2008
at 2:08 am
after many years of traces of blood in my urine and being told “you are a natural stone maker” its all gone!!! I give a big star to MMS as I believe that is what has fixed it. Does MMS lower blood pressure??? I take Micardis 40 1 x daily but on checking my BP because I feel so lethargic it is very low and am wondering if it is the MMS? any clues?
By: Clare on September 30, 2008
at 3:57 pm
Hi Breen,
Yes, I too experienced severe stomach pain after taking MMS – so bad I had to discontinue taking orally. I am still having stomach problems two weeks later.
I am now taking MMS transdermally with DMSO. (I have lyme and possible other co-infections).
By: Michelle on October 3, 2008
at 3:39 am
Michelle,
Was curious…what are you mixing with the MMS when you drink it ?
(fruit juice, water, ….?)
Clint
By: Clint on October 3, 2008
at 10:36 pm
Hi Adam,
Do you know how to use MMS intravenously. I am suffering from chronic hepatitis B and I have use MMS for more than six months now but the virus is still there. Please xplain how to use it intravenously(IV)
James
By: James on October 4, 2008
at 5:27 am
Hi James,
To answer your direct question, I know what I’ve seen that is documented in my video, Understanding MMS: Conversations with Jim Humble. It appears that using MMS intravenously is complicated, and that other options, such as an enema, or activated and then used with DMSO, may be as, or more effective.
I really like DMSO because it naturally enhances the effectiveness of anything it bonds with, *and* because of its superior penetration capabilities, delivers it to every part of the body, which may be the gist of your problem. The chlorine dioxide can’t oxidize stuff that is inaccessible. Nothing is inaccessible to DMSO, so if it takes the chlorine dioxide along for the ride, then hepatitis viruses would eventually be reached and eliminated.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 4, 2008
at 6:59 am
Clare,
The MMS isn’t the cause of your lethargy. You have a blockage somewhere in your plumbing (circulatory system) or certain organs, such as the gallbladder, kidney, or liver, all of which could be helped by MMS, as well as DMSO, which is a natural solvent. DMSO will dissolve plaque that builds up within arterial walls and blood vessels. MMS will oxidize pathogens and parasites that sometime contribute to the plaque buildup.
It’s the lack of sufficient circulation of oxygen through your system that accounts for the lethargy and lack of energy. MMS will help restore that by reducing the pathogens. DMSO will help by dissolving plaque.
You also need to add sufficient digestive enzymes, aerobic bacteria, and fundamental nutrients so that your body can repair itself once you re-establish the “order” within it.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 4, 2008
at 7:08 am
James:
I’ve taken MMS intravenously, and Adam’s right, it is a bit of a hassle.
You’ll have to have an art at finding a vein and securing it with a butterfly needle….BUT….the most difficult part was finding out that when the MMS enters the blood stream with the saline solution…it starts to burn like hell after about 6 drops. I was up to 18 drops MMS (with 90 drops Citric Acid) 2 x’s a day…and my veins were screaming at me.
I eventually had to resort to veins in the legs and found them easier to get a good connection, but…they still hurt a lot after the IV.
So….. if you have balls of steel…and a high tolerance for pain my friend….feel free to knock yourself out !
Clint
By: Clint on October 4, 2008
at 10:40 am
Hi Adam
Thank you so much for your response. Have ordered the DMSO and will start as soo as it arrives. Have started Yoga to assist with my Arthritis (osteo) , have given up smoking , and am taking Digestive Bitters before meals. Heres hoping!!!!
By: Clare on October 5, 2008
at 2:57 pm
Great going Clare!
I’d suggest the book, “DMSO: Nature’s Healer” by Dr. Morton Walker. It’s a bit dated (© 1993), but it gives you an idea of the wide range of genuine medical research that has been done with DMSO in the past 40 years.
You’ll find an entire chapter on arthritis. Separately from MMS, you can brush DMSO directly on the affected areas and, because of its nature as a safe, master solvent, anticipate experiencing great relief.
Cheers,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 5, 2008
at 5:43 pm
Hi Adam,
You said earlier that 30 drops of MMS will cure any hepatitis of any kind. I am still wondering why after six months of using MMS and the last time I used it was 45 drops for one week and still my heps virus is still there.
james
By: James on October 6, 2008
at 4:20 am
I have Lymphedema, a condition that blocks the Lymph system, which has created swelling and severe pain in my lower left leg and foot. As a result I haven’t been able to walk for the past two weeks. Does anyone have any experience of using MMS in relation to this particular condition?
By: Bob on October 6, 2008
at 8:55 pm
Bob:
I’d say you have nothing to lose, and EVERYthing to gain my friend.
Might also try using DMSO gel on the sore areas of your leg, it’s a great anti-inflammatory.
Clint
By: Clint on October 7, 2008
at 7:37 am
Thanks for your response Clint.
I am still interestd in speaking with anyone who has Lymphedema and is taking MMS.
Thanks….Bob
By: Bob on October 8, 2008
at 2:22 am
“All of these will have pH values that are out of the body’s range of good health. They will also have a positive ionic charge. The chlorine dioxide equipped cells do not oxidize beneficial bacteria, or healthy cells, as their pH levels are 7 or above, and hold a negative ion charge.”
Wait, so if pathogens are acidic electron donors – doesn’t that mean they have negative ionic charges? And beneficial alkaline bacteria & cells have positive ionic charges?
Also, is there a newb’s guide to DMSO? How to use it orally, topically or in conjunction with MMS? Do’s & don’ts? Thanks!
By: tundratic on October 8, 2008
at 9:45 am
“I wish someone could figure a way to check if it’s really gone after using MMS”
Ever heard of the Western Blot antibody test? It’s quite accurate when used 3-4 months after infection (allowing enough time for antibodies to form).
I wonder if you would still have antibodies even after exterminating the actual virus, though?
By: gblaze on October 8, 2008
at 11:46 am
Hi Adam,
I want to order DMSO. Does anyone know the address where I can order and how much it cost. Thanks
By: james on October 9, 2008
at 3:56 am
Bill’s question from Sept 24 seems to have been overlooked. I recall reading that Vitamin C reduces the effect of MMS & that we should keep them separate.
As I have ongoing nausea & diarrhoea at 6×1, I have decided to take my juice extract in the morning & MMS at night. At least then I’m only nauseous while I’m asleep! I had no idea that my body would be that seriously stuffed up, but then I guess it has had decades of abuse ….
I also have the vague feeling that I might be losing some of my belly fat & squirting that out the back end along with everything else. I’ll report on that one later.
I have also had some pretty nasty irritation around the bum area, which is nothing new after haemorrhoids & fungal infections, but I figure it’s just a side effect of toxins being released onto an area skin that is already rather sensitive. Treating that with a topical cream, which seems to be helping.
I have also had Jim’s words from the ebook ringing in my ears, saying, “Don’t stop”, so I am persevering through the toxic elimination side effects.
And Adam, great work on answering all the questions so elegantly.
Rodney.
By: Rodney on October 9, 2008
at 6:15 am
Hi Clint,
I tried various mediums – water, apple juice and soda at various times.
It has taken several weeks after stopping the oral doses for my stomach to feel almost normal again.
I am pleased with the DMSO/transdermal use of MMS and I have had good results with a reduction in some of my chronic lyme disease symptoms. I am also on the salt/vitamin C regime for lyme and co-infections.
By: Michelle on October 10, 2008
at 6:45 am
Wow Michelle,
So your using that protocol with DMSO, MMS & MSM…. was curious how is your skin holding up ?
Clint
By: Clint on October 10, 2008
at 12:03 pm
Adam,
You were talking about transdermal DMSO + MMS not having the negative healing effects and the Overnight Cure for Cancer said the same. I thought that effect was the reaction of the MMS doing its job in oxidizing the pathogens…?
By: kirk on October 16, 2008
at 7:40 am
Hi Kirk.
Oxidizing pathogens is what MMS does. From the standpoint of pH, MMS oxidizes only those microorganisms and inorganic products that have detrimental effect on the body.
DMSO is not an oxidizer, but it dissolves and penetrates like no other compound on earth, and because it travels through all barriers (some of which have formed due to deposits caused by said detrimental microorganisms, etc.), it enhances the beneficial effects of anything that it bonds with.
DMSO has abilities that are unique to it as well, which are also beneficial. It is not a pathogen killer, but its ability to break down and then evacuate deposits made (or facilitated) by pathogen overgrowth can bring great relief to many situations were inflammation, blood pressure, and headaches are involved. (Plus much more beyond that.)
DMSO does not compete with MMS. It complements. It can deliver the chlorine dioxide molecule throughout the body more completely, and therefore, reach and oxidize pathogens, which may have been inaccessible otherwise due to the effects of blockages, that would have been not penetrated.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 17, 2008
at 5:41 am
Rodney,
Thanks for the Thumbs Up! Doin’ what I can. If you’re not familiar with living clay… calcium bentonite, you might consider it. You can use it topically to relieve skin irritation, and drink it to remove pathogens and parasites like MMS. It’s a natural analgesic (pain reducer), and accomplishes its ends by absorption (via swelling) and adsorption (via sticking) of pathogens as it passes through the body.
The clay appears to have an energetic property that, when combined with water, facilitates the body’s restoration of its normal, healthy state.
You can learn more at:
http://www.aboutclay.com/
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 17, 2008
at 6:04 am
Hi Adam,
Thanks for your contributions to spreading the word about MMS. I first heard about it about 6 months ago. I was on a committed search to end my bout with genital herpes, and was going with the program on Never An Outbreak — he uses a liquid oxygen formula to alkalyze the body that is very strong in combination with dmso. I was on that program when I first found out about MMS, and wondered if the product called B.O.L. was the same as MMS. Checked with Jim and he confirmed it wasn’t. I sat on it for a few months, somwhat hesitant because it just seemed like such powerful chemistry, it kind of was like overwhelming.
Not being completely successful with the protocol I was on, I ordered it. I still sat on it for another 2 months before beginning. Luckily, I found your site, and felt far more comfortable reading all in questions people were asking and all the reactions they were having.
Well, talk about fulfilling my own prophecies, I got violently ill with it on just the third day on 3 drops. I had to go to ER to get hydrated because I couldn’t hold anything down. Well, the good thing was, my stomach was so sensitive, I decided to just go with what my body was trying to tell me, like “change your diet drastically — I’ve been trying to tell you this for a few years…” I had to stay with a juice fast for about five days. Ofcourse I stopped taking MMS during this time. Then I gradually started taking in fruits and veges. When I went back on solid foods again, then I started back on the MMS again and had no reaction. For myself, I decided that taking it once a day was enough for me, and I also decided to go at a slower pace than what the recommended protocol is. I feel that MMS does its work, and I am not in such a rush to undo all the damage I have done to my body over the last 63 years too fast. I figure I will give the MMS time it needs to do its work without making me suffer needlessly. And this is considering I have been taking pretty good care of myself, and don’t have too many physical complaints.
You see, I’m kind of a radical researcher, using my own body as the research instrument. I like to look at evidence, and one of the best ones I use is dark field microscopy to look at my blood. About 12 years ago when I first came across it, I started using digestive enzymes, and saw my blood transform into perfect condition. That’s with plump and luminescent red blood cells in full round and free floating shapes, a clean and clear background, and wonderful moving white blood cells doing what they[re supposed to do. Even though I test myself regularly and have tried so many forms of getting healthy, I haven’t been able to get back there with my blood and my alkalynity no matter what I do short of overdoing it on the anaerobic exercising.
So, I think my body has been trying to tell me to drastically cut down on my food intake, especially meats since I’m have type A blood, and to eat only organic foods. So since I started on my MMS quest, I have drastically changed my diet.
Going back to MMS, I got back on it at my slow pace, and had another reaction of diarrhea again at 7 drops. This time I seem to have inadvertantly discovered two things. One is that I had accidentally drank my MMS too soon, before the three minutes were up (also I didn’t add the juice to it), and I think that was the cause of my reaction. My second discovery related to the fact that I am a serious advocate of internal consumption of calcium montmorillonite clay (a brand called Terramin Clay you can find on the internet), distinct from bentonite clay, although they share some similarities – I feel that calcium montmorillonite is much superior clay to bentonite. Being at work today with diarrhea was not fun, so I comsumed alot of Terramin clay, like two teaspoons full, and it worked like a charm! By lunchtime I was ready to eat again.
By the way, I found Terramin when I was trying to bring down extremely high levels of aluminum in my body. A urine test done by a company called Genova Diagnostics read my aluminum levels at 2000% of the toxic level. It took me 3 months to figure out where all that aluminum came from — then it dawned on my I grew up in a rural community on the Big Island of Hawaii where our water source was catchment rain water collected from, guess what, our ALUMINUM roof!!! Well, first I put myself on NCD or natural cellular defense, but it was so expensive so I found Terramin and switched to it. After about 1 1/2 to 2 years on Terramin, my aluminum levels dropped down much lower than the toxic level. I love that kind of validation!!!
Anyway, I just wanted to thank you Adam for the valuable service you are providing to us do-it-yourself healers, just stumbling along here on our own. I took all your comments and am putting them in a file by categories and responses. Right now I’m about half-way done. I’ll be glad to share it if anyone is interested when I’m done. Have you discovered http://www.earthclinic.com yet? I like their format of subjects and sharing…
I just wanted to recommend to others if you get hit with the diarrhea and vomiting, try the Terramin clay – take it internally and it works so fast you’d be amazed. Also listen to your body and what its trying to tell you about your diet and habits. My suspicion is that the diarrhea and vomiting reaction is directly related to the acidic condition of your bodies. One of the reasons I think I reacted this last time is because I went on a 4-day vacation and went a little off my diet and regiment, and thus became more acidic than usual. I also believe that about 90%+ of all people, including vegetarians tend to be over acidic in their system.
I also wanted to ask if anyone has direct experience of what happens if you consume the MMS & the acitvator solution immediately after mixing, say accidentally like I did.
Much Aloha,
Karen
By: Karen on October 18, 2008
at 3:15 am
Hey karen:
Great share…thanks !
Wanted to ask you…. dod you ever get RID of your Herpes ?
(and are you referring to #1 or #2)
thanks,
Clint
By: Clint on October 18, 2008
at 5:24 am
Hi Clint,
Well, I haven’t had an outbreak since about a month before I started on MMS. It’s type 2, I think because I don’t have any upper body outbreaks at all. I feel that it is on its way out because I would always “test myself” by eating chocolate or doing exercise, which in the past always caused an outbreak. I haven’t even had a pre-outbreak response — that tingling sensation when I eat the wrong foods or exercise too much.
The other thing I was doing that really helped it was drinking that Kangen water in addition to using the BOL which brings the water to 10 pH.
Thanks for the feedback…
Karen
By: Karen on October 18, 2008
at 5:35 pm
Aloha Karen, and Mahalo for sharing!
We are experts on disease… experiencing it, but newbies on healing because the journey will be as unique as we are.
Don’t you just love the idea of a “DIY Healer?” Imagine how different modern medical practice would be if doctors treated themselves with their own remedies…
Your sharing gives us all signposts that will help us read our own experiences and instead of panic or think something is “wrong,” or “doesn’t work,” we can tune into the simple message that the body is telling us.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 18, 2008
at 7:51 pm
I’m up to 25 drops (I’m 240 lbs) and have no nausea or adverse effects. I was thinking that what I bought might be fake but the solution smells like chlorine and is yellow and I’m following directions correctly. Does this just mean I have nothing harmful to kill in my body?
By: kirk on October 21, 2008
at 8:27 am
Hi Adam,
While seeing my nurtionalist for some time taking a low carb diet and dietry supplements she came across MMS and advised I take it.
Since I was becoming frustrated with the slow rate of success and incredible expense of the supplements I decided to try it.
I did the standard 1 drop x daily and raised each day. I did feel quite nausous as I passed 10 drops and as I got into the teens like many here I couldnt stand the taste and developed an aversion. But I added apple juice and pressed on but after feeling sick I dropped back by 3 drops and crawled my way back. Situtaion normal really as I understood it.
As I raised my limit back all the diahorrea and nausea stopped and I was at 14 drops a day. But unfortunately something else happened. My teeth and gums become incerdibly painful and I developed a humongous lump on my lower left gum. It spread to my jaw and even up my nose and cheek. It got so bad I could not eat and so I stopped taking my dietry supplements and carried on with the MMS at 15 drops twice daily.
But the pains all over my teeth, jaw, gums and even inside my mouth became too much and I had to stop. It took days to recover and to be quite honest I have not managed to get rid of the abcess since. I did brush with 2 drops every night during my time drinking it but I think it was not enough.
I noted these symptoms happened to me a year earlier when I tried bathing in Magnesium Chloride every day. But not so severe and did not reach quite so far.
I have since had to stop my supplementation program due to the expense but have not given up on my health or on MMS. I decided to use it again but this time wished to be better prepared.
Recently while looking at a forum I noticed someone say they too had pains similar to mine due to Hyperthyroidism. I confess I had no idea what that was so looked it up and realised many of the symptoms associated with this condtion I had. Suddenly all seemed clear. Why my liver intestines and other organs were now fine and yet I still had diahoerrea and frequent cold symptoms and sensitive skin etc. My instincts tell me I found the answer. Even the machine my nutrionalist uses to test my meridians has consistantly shown an over active and stressed thyroid.
So I wonder if you can advise me on how to persue this condition with MMS? Im willing to have another whack at it but I wonder if there are any supplements I can take (that arent too expensive)? I know things get worse before they get better Im prepared for that but the pain and discomfort even stopped me from eating or sleeping. Is there any way known to you or Jim Humble himself that could assist me with this area? Id appreciate any help as I do not wish to give up.
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on October 21, 2008
at 12:48 pm
Okay, after taking the 2nd dose of 25 drops I’ve been having bad diarrhea and vomited up a lot of yellow bile. Looks like it’s finally causing some reactions. I’ve also had the need to sleep a lot, which is encouraging.
-Kirk
By: kirk on October 22, 2008
at 2:41 am
Paul,
Thank you for sharing your journey with us. I am confident that you will succeed in your quest to reclaim and restore your health.
This is the real “Armageddon” that most people are looking in the wrong places for, and *you* are the savior that your body has waited for… and you will triumph.
You’re not “fighting” evil, but restoring balance.
The pathogen and microbial reduction that you’re doing with MMS and magnesium will contribute to the establishment of said balance, but you may need to add an iodine supplement specifically for the thyroid, or consume spirulina, chlorella, or marine phytoplankton. I understand that nascent iodine is also very good.
http://www.magnascent.com/Thyroid%20Gland.htm
One thing to remember is that MMS and the chlorine dioxide that it generates, is not a nutrient, whereas magnesium and iodine are. Chlorine dioxide helps your body get more in balance by bacterial, viral, pathogen and parasitic overgrowth reduction.
It’s interesting that you had a similar reaction when you bathed in magnesium chloride, because it addresses the nourishment side of the coin.
As you “bulked up” on this vital nutrient, you also bolstered your immune system (which is happening with the MMS now).
It sound to me as though a blockage is being exposed, which may explain the inflammation.
The bacterial population are living organisms, and when you took the MMS and MgCl, bolstering the immune system, they went into “fight or flight” mode, except that they can’t fight it. They can only run.
However it appears that they exist in such great numbers, as to cause the discomfort that you experienced.
In addition to taking the MMS orally, I’d consider doing what 89 year old naturopathic doctor, Jim Walker, suggests in his book, Holocaust: American Style, which dissolved a blood clot when he had a stroke: downing a solution of 8 oz of orange juice to which he added an ounce of 99.9% pure dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO).
This is one nasty tasting concoction, but it’s a marvelous, non-toxic solvent. It will address any blockage factor, known and unknown. You can also apply DMSO topically to the body, which doesn’t produce the distinct “aroma” that oral consumption causes (it goes away in a few days). Lastly, you can combine activated MMS with DMSO, and let the DMSO escort the chlorine dioxide molecules to areas it may not have penetrated.
I hope these suggestions are helpful. I can see applying DMSO and MMS topically in the area of your month *before* doing a big intake of MMS orally, so as to deter the bacteria from congregating there, and seek shelter elsewhere. However, by continuing to introduce enough chlorine dioxide internally too, you won’t give them anywhere to congregate.
Again, you’re not killing them all off… you’re reducing the overgrowth, not only of bacteria, but parasites.
Best wishes to you, and thank you again for sharing.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 22, 2008
at 5:04 am
Kirk! Way to go!
By: phaelosopher on October 22, 2008
at 5:05 am
Adam,
Thank you for that. I was actually just reading Jim Humbles site in which he advises someone with an underactive thyroid gland to brush with 10 drops of MMS in Citric Acid 4 x daily for a week or so before taking MMS orally. I thought I may try that.
http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=168
What he does not say is WHEN I should do this. For example on an empty stomach or away from meals?
As for supplementation there is not much I can really take due to severe lack of funds. This does worry me s I was under a nutrionalist who uses a machine that is able to test what nutrients right down to the formulation/ brand (I forget the name of the machine but it was very cool). But I can tell you I was taking 12 tabs of Elyte brand Chlorella every night before bed. Maybe not enough. Ill certainly stretch to the supplements you list though.
As for the DMSO Im guessing if I am to mix it with oragne juice I should do it away from the MMS due to the vit C content. But how often should I do that?
I like the idea of using the DMSO and MMS topically. But I would like a little more blow by blow instruction on that. How long before and in what dosage kind of thing please. I wonder if there is a way to get it to my sinuses as they swell up and hurt too. Not as bad as my mouth mind. Bit of aching and clogged up with mild bleeding. Though, saying that it was working its way up my face and into my upper cheek to my eyes.
Would you also recommend mixing DMSO with MMS along with this or instead of? Dont mind sounds like I will be using alot of DMSO anyway but would just like to get as much background as I can before I start.
Thanks again Adam. I had the feeling all along it was just a phase and once it had passed I would be much better. As I said I had a similar reaction before due to high amounts of Magnesium Chloride Oil. I figured it was mercury being displaced at first but obviously there is more to it than that.
One more thing. You say I am stopping the overgrowth and not killing the bacteria and parasites. I found that interesting.
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on October 22, 2008
at 8:04 am
Dear phaelosopher why have you not replied to Sarahs comment dated dec 17 2007 in relation to the use of MMs in people who have metal stents in their coronary arteries.I want to use MMs for my father who has prostate cancer but you fail to give an answer to this important question.Why is this Lin jan 23 asked you how MMs can affect heavy metals but you fail ti answer
By: claire o brien on October 22, 2008
at 12:56 pm
Dear Claire,
While I am knowledgeable on the subject of MMS, I don’t claim to be an expert, nor do I consider my opinion the last word. Oftentimes I defer to Jim Humble, who presently knows more on this subject than anyone else.
I have asked Jim about stents on several occasions, and his answer is this: there’s no problem. Chlorine dioxide will not oxidize that massive of a piece of metal, nor will it in any way interfere with the stent’s operation.
Compounds that contain tiny clusters of heavy metals can be deposited in various parts of the body… in tissue, and the brain, to name a few. This is something that MMS will oxidize.
My documentary, Understanding MMS: Conversations with Jim Humble, includes an interview with a man who had been diagnosed with prostate cancer, and in 6 month’s time, brought his PSA levels down from a very high number, to just over 1.00.
An attempt is made to address questions when they arise, and not always by me. If one or two falls through the cracks, please feel free to ask again. Also, there are many other places where questions are answered, including Jim Humble’s site, http://www.mmsanswers.com.
Best wishes to you and your dad.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 22, 2008
at 1:20 pm
Just to say I have already begun brushing my teeth 4x daily with the 10 drops of MMS activated with 50 drops of Citric acid activated for 3 minutes and added half mug of water. Straight after I decided to swish my mouth out with the soloution before disposing of it and rinsing my mout with water.
My question to you however would be should I add any DMSO to this soloution and if so how much? And also is there a preferred time? By this I mean should it be any given amount of time away from meals or supplements?
And back on the DMSO I am still curious about your suggestion to mix DMSO with 8oz of Oragne Juice. Again is this meant to be done on an empty stomach and was I correct in gleening it was to be done 2 hours away from MMS due to the Vit C content? Also how many times a day is this recommended for?
And Lastly is there a recommended amount of DMSO to be added to the MMS to be taken orally is there a ratio?
Please bear with me for pressing you but as you can see I am wasting no time undertaking my plan for this balance. Meantime I will order the DMSO right away I think. If anyone here has a recommended brand (I know we arent here to advertise its about health but still…) Id appreciate it.
Karen, I do not know if you are still with us but that was an interesting read. I myself lean toward a vegatarian diet though I do wonder if it really is for the best. Already I am a great consumer of fish. I see it as having less of the negative effects of red meat. But it is interesting that you noted you felt vegatarians tend to be acidic. It could be down to the amount of grains and high or refined carbohydrate foods many vegatarinas eat.
I may actually consider the Clay supplement anyway seeing as how I have suffered from bad diahoera for decades and bad gas. In fact it was one of my main symptoms I went to rid myself of when first entering “alternative Treatments” years ago. Along with the deep persistent fatigue I suffer from. And Bacteria and Fungus would dearly love a body that has become acidic.
With that in mind my next chpater in my health may be to make my acidity levels more in balance besides using MMS.
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on October 23, 2008
at 5:58 am
Phaelosopher
Thanks a million to responding to my message so promptly i am still a little fearful in using the mms for my father who has a coronary stent, which has saved his life after 3 heart attacks, im frightened in case it might cause a breakdown of the stent leading to coronary occlusion ( heart attack ) Please dont think i have no faith in you or Mr humble as i do ( my father has already ordered mms ) but is there any one out there who has a coronary ( heart ) stent and is using mms. If my father didnt have the stent i would not hesitate.
In jims book he does say that mms will chemically react with stainless steel
I am desperate for any reassurance,comments, or personal experiences.
Thankyou so much claire
By: claire o brien on October 23, 2008
at 8:21 am
Greetings Claire,
Many people with stents are using MMS. Many people who have metal in their bodies, myself included, are using MMS. My metal “appliance” is in my mouth, the result of a reconstruction of my jawbone after a tumor was discovered there 12 years ago.
People who have other forms of hardware, including pacemakers and breast implants (or is that software?), are using it without incident.
In fact, the number of people using MMS must now be several hundreds of thousands. This is only an educated guess, but it is quite likely that anyone who has had an adverse experience might have shared it by now.
According to Jim Humble, chlorine dioxide is a weak oxidizer, meaning that it is not corrosive enough to attack something as densely formed as a metal object, but it plenty strong enough to oxidize the microscopic molecular emissions that these objects give off.
Knowing what I understand now, I would be far more concerned about the medications that the doctors are giving him, and the nutritional factors that they tend to ignore, such as his pre-existing magnesium deficiency that compromised the proper functioning of his heart in the first place.
Magnesium supplementation (along with other trace minerals) is something that you can do for him whether the doctors think it’s important or not.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 23, 2008
at 8:38 am
Hey Paul,
There are no time restrictions associated with using MMS and DMSO, beyond those already noted regarding using MMS and vitamin C.
You’ll still get the most “bang for the buck” on an empty stomach, and if you’ve given yourself ample time after taking mega doses of vitamin C.
I’d suggest that the DMSO likewise be taken on as empty a stomach as is practical. The DMSO concoction does NOT have to be done with orange juice. The author that I referred to wasn’t aware of MMS at the time he did this, and so that wasn’t a part of his decision making process. The juice is only a carrier for the DMSO, and can be anything. DMSO has a pungent taste, even when diluted in juice. However, it will penetrate all areas of the body, dissolve clots, and open up any places that that might have been inaccessible.
I don’t see where taking it more than once daily will be necessary, and possibly, taking it once period may suffice. The purpose of taking it is to break up any clots that may be obstructing passage ways in the body. So it’s something that is done occasionally, or under certain situations.
Make sure it’s 99.7% (or better) pure DMSO, which interestingly, freezes at just 68 degrees.
One thing it will help do by opening any blocked passage ways is help remove pathogens that have been oxidized.
On mixing DMSO and MMS, the best description of that comes from “the Overnight Cure for Cancer” article (OCC) that you can search for and find online. It involves activating 10 drops of MMS (with 50 drops activator), waiting 3 minutes, and then, instead of adding water or juice, adding 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO…. waiting 3 more minutes, then BRUSHING it on topically, allowing the chemical’s entry into the body transdermally.
I hope this is helpful. It’s something to consider and decide what feels best for you.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 23, 2008
at 9:06 am
Adam,
Thank you so much. That is much clearer. I have DMSO on the way now so Ill use ot first off by brushing in the way you suggest. Simply exchanging the half cup of water with 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO (correct me if I am worng). This should allow it to get right to my teeth roots and jawbone all being well.
As for ingesting a mix of DMSO and MMS I did look at Jim Humbles site but I could not make out what would be a good protocol for it. In one instance he says work up from 1 drop up to 2 tablespoons and in another I think he is saying use an equal amount of DMSO drops to the citric acid activator after 3 minutes and drink with water. Hard to tell what I should go for.
Id like to also thank you for your prompt responses.
By: Paul on October 23, 2008
at 11:11 am
Since I am still waiting for the DMSO to arrive from the US to my home in UK. I have continued as is brushing the 10 drops MMS 4 times a day.
Its only the second day and I am already starting to feel that sensation I had the previous two times. Firt it feels like sensitive teeth but then thats when it travels to the roots and gums and causes the pain I described as it spreads to my jaw and face.
As I say it begins as something like sensitive teeth. The abcess itself however is being affected. But I notice it is largest first thing i the morning. Dont know if this tells anymore. Sure hope the DMSO can work this out or any other tips would be appreciated. I would desire very much to get past this instead of a stop start cycle.
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on October 24, 2008
at 4:25 am
Hi. I have been taking MMS now for 2.5 months and have rampted up slowly (now at 14 drops once a day). I notice when I increase too fast I get worsened symptoms (my complaints are digestive gas constipation) I also get mid back pain, a pressure like deep ache which I think may be kidneys detoxing to much. No diareah. I had this happen when I did a wheatgrass cleanse/raw food diet for several months I have constipation so I’m sure I am recycling toxins but am trying to keep clear with herbal Lax aids. I’m wondering if fungus is being killed and possible mercury is being released if this could stress my kidneys too much? Would it be good to take a clay or other supp. I just thought that with MMS I wouldn’t need that as it disintegrated those things. I am hopeful that MMS will help along with using energy therapy to release old emotions properly. I feel we remain sick until we can let go of old core emotions that hold us in a disease state. I have come far in that department but my poor body is needing some TLC still so that my mind and body can work as one again. Any suggestions are so welcome. I just don’t want to harm my kidneys or anything else so want to proceed carefully. Thankyou Adam for all you have done with this topic. You seem a very caring and compassionate man.
Mel
By: Mel on October 24, 2008
at 6:47 am
Hi Clint,
I am using DMSO and MMS (not MSM) – I mix the MMS with the citric acid. I am up to six drops MMS (30 drops of citric acid); I then apply the DMSO to my skin and then after a couple of minutes rub in the liquid.
So far my skin is fine although I did burn once before I started using DMSO.
Michelle
By: Michelle on October 24, 2008
at 7:39 am
Michelle
Hi. Glad it is working so well for you. My skin too is amazing now. It cleared up from a lifetime of acne at only 2 drops when even antibiotics did nothing. Also my brown spots are fading. I am going through some simialr things as you with the stomach bloating weirdness though. Has applying this transdermally helped with that? Thanks for any help.
By: Mel on October 25, 2008
at 9:06 am
Now, personal experience.> >
> > Summary for mother – 78 years old, no thyroid gland, blind, both main arteries to legs replaced (a few times), heart attacks, strokes, on numerous pharma. drugs, etc. Believes in health and follows my lead. > >
> > Numbness or lack of feeling in legs for years – feeling returned within in seven days of protocol. Numbness gone and still gone (4 months).> >
> > Blood pressure has sky-rocketed for decades – doctor reports this is almost back to normal measurement within one month of mms> >
> > Emotions chaotic, up and down, unpredictable – I have observed a great change in emotional stability for the better. God speaks of our emotions in terms of bodily organs, for example, bowels of mercy, etc. Maybe there is a greater connection between our physcial body and our personal manifestation of the spirit of man within us?> >
> > Dr. has reported increased blood flow and circulation.> >
> > Her appetite has changed, mostly in that she requires less food. As pointed out in the websites I sent you, this is because, once you cleanse your body of parasites, pathogens, viruses, and the neutralization or heavy metals, etc., you require less because you are not feeding them, but are feeding yourself.> >
> > After brushing her teeth with MMS and swishing it in her mouth, her tounge has moulted and become pink again.> >
> > I have cleaners come into her house once weekly to clean for her. They saw her after 5 or 6 days normal mms protocol. They were flabbergassed with the difference in her apperance and energy. They asked, “what’s different about you, did you do your hair, etc”. Her energy and ability to engage was so dramatic compared to the previous weeks and months that they started to nickname her “sparky”.> >
> > Before starting MMS my mother sought approval from her Herbolagist (who incidentally is the only one liscenced in Nova Scotia). She told my mother that her understanding (after reading what I sent you and associated material), that it was safe, would not have a negative interaction with pharmaceuticals, and would not harm or damage any healthy cells within her body. This woman last week sought access to information on MMS from myself for her own personal use and that of her patients.> >
> > My massage therapist, after beginning to use MMS found out that persons within his extended contacts have utilized MMS with great results, such as curing MS, etc. I cannot speak for this as I have no direct knowledge.> >
> > As for myself, I have always believed in and followed the principles of preventative medecine.
> > When I began the MMS protocol, I did so only to assure my mother by example that it was not harmful. When I approached the peak of the healthy person protocol I started to feel the effects of the cleansing and/or healing crisis, mostly infrequent and unusual diahrhea after doses (sometimes it was like heavy dust sinking to the bottom of the bowl).> >
> > My results. I require much less food. I sleep less. I am full of energy and generally feel great. I say this in the context of being a human being.> >
> > I work as an electrician in construction. Over the last month everyone I work with have become sick with a long-lasting flu. I caught it and it clung to me. I could feel it, yet it never took hold, although it had and has with everyone else.> >
> > This, of course is all anecdotal.
By: james parrish on October 26, 2008
at 11:03 am
Thats great to hear James. Its feedback like yours that brings hope.
As for myself the sensitive pain in my teeth was just that. False Alarm thankfully. The MMS and possibly citric acod has made my teeth increasingly sensitive but Ill take that over an abcess.
I monitored my abcess and its easy to start worrying yourself nothing is happening. It has shrunk and blown itself back since the second day of my regular brushing and it is showing to be quite the resillient critter but then I have not received the DMSO yet and it may take a while yet to overcome it.
I wonder if anyone here has or knows of anyone who has used MMS as a spray or droped it into the nose to clear sinus infections. I considered this late last night but would not again know where to start for how much doseage or how much water it could be mixed with. But I suppose it would be a good strategy to stop pathogens from congreating there like Adam suggested I do with my mouth.
But then perhaps the DMSO on its onw would mean this would not be necessarry.
By: Paul on October 27, 2008
at 1:02 pm
Reclaiming Our Power to ‘Heal’ « Thought for Food :
WTF ??!
By: Clint on October 28, 2008
at 7:57 pm
That was a pingback from a new essay I published earlier today, where I referred to this article.
By: phaelosopher on October 28, 2008
at 8:24 pm
Woah ! Ok…sorry for the over reaction Adam….
I was reaching for the Valium®….
By: Clint on October 28, 2008
at 8:49 pm
James,
Thank you for your “anecdotal” account. In time we’ll all understand that all information is “anecdotal” for anyone other than ourselves.
All the scientific studies, all the double-blind tests, only amount to methods that people use to convince themselves that they have enough information by which to permit or allow themselves to heal.
When we realize that we are the healers of our own disease, and no one, or nothing else, then we’ll choose simpler, less drastic or painful ways to do so.
The chlorine dioxide effectively gets at, and reduces the microorganisms that contribute to a great many ailments. It’s also sufficiently bad tasting to make it a GREAT medicine! The good thing is that it’s beneficial, effective, inexpensive, and not addicting.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on October 29, 2008
at 3:31 am
Hi phaelosopher,
I have gone through all the question and comments regarding the usees of MMS, but I have also heard of using it for gential herpes virus. Would the same protocol be used also or would it be increased in some way or another??
Kind Regards,
Heather
By: Heather on October 30, 2008
at 10:15 am
I have recently begun using MMS for general health, and have seen some improvements in digestion and a feeling of well-being. I am hoping to see some positive improvements with sinus/allergy related problems, as they tend to be rampant where I live. I ordered my supplies from http://www.ordermms.com and have found that I do not mind the taste of the solution with the distilled water. The smell is a different story, but I’ve gotten used to it also. If anyone has any info regarding the sinus/allergy problems, please share with me, I’m interested in hearing of others’ successes.
By: bsk120100 on October 31, 2008
at 11:32 am
Hi all. Good News!
I have just talked to my friend who has a form of inflamed infected exema. She was on internal and external steroids as well as antibiotics which cleared it up but as soon as she stopped it started to come back. As she doesn’t want to be on steroids for the rest of her life she decided to try the mms. She started with 2 drops and increased too 15 drops twice a day in 8 days! YIKES at day 3 of this dose she got the runs and started vomiting for about 3 hours. She then took a large dose of vit C and Vomitting stopped. She knew this was probably a Herx. She never did finish doing the 1 week at 2x day but her exema is so much better and if it gets a little bad she will take a 5-7 drop dose once and the next day it is down to nothing.
I have my teen on it for warts and acne. Only at 7 drops once a day but his acne is all but gone. I think the warts are going to need the higher dose no side effects with him.
My acne is still gone and I have a weird growth thing (had it checked out and not worrysome) and it is shrinking. also less mucous in my system YAYYY.
I was at 14 drops once a day but my back ached, not super strong but enough it worried me so I cut back to 7 drops and it felt fine went to 8 drops and it started again. I can totally see the benefits from this but it worrys me with the back ache thing. I’ve read a post somewhere that you should get your liver monitored while taking this so that kinda freaked me a bit. Don’t want kidney or liver damage but never read anywhere that anyone posted actual damage done. Any thoughts on this back thing?
I’ve ordered the Liquid Magnesium Chloride so I will let you know how that goes with all of this and am thinking about DMSO as well. Thanks for any feedback. I just can’t figure out if I should just stay at lower doses or just push through to the higher- no nausea or loose stool. Oh my main thing I’m working on is digestion/dysbiosis have been on mms for 3 months now.
Thanks all
Mel
By: Mel on November 1, 2008
at 7:41 am
Dear all,
I don’t knowmif I have any obvious health condition but I have been taking MMS for the past fortnight.
In the beginning, I experienced nausea and loose bowel but I am ok now and am feeling energised.
Those living in Malaysia or around here can contact me for supply of MMS.
ahealthcure@gmail.com
By: Ang Wee Kiong on November 1, 2008
at 11:42 pm
Well interestingly enough I ran out of MMS while waiting for a new supply and the DMSO is STILL not here yet.
Been about 3 days since I stopped brushing 4 times daily with 10 activated drops in water and the abcess is now creeing back. I wonder how long it takes to get rid of one completely. Not worried though. I read in an MMS forums that combined with the DMSO it will be gone by two weeks.
But back on he DMSO question I think reading here others are wondering what the best way is for a protocol for ingesting MMS with DMSO? I plan to do this once my abcess has cleared.
By: Paul on November 2, 2008
at 2:46 pm
Oh I forgot will taking any form of the Betonite Clay help with any diahorea as I just begun a new job and do not wish to be disrupted too much? My thanks in advance for any info on this and the DMSO question?
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on November 2, 2008
at 2:49 pm
Major D yesterday and then felt great. My kidneys don’t ache at all today and I’m up higher on my dose again. Yaayyyy. I’ve noticed my knee I had surgery on is not achy at all lately even when I run so that is a great thing.
I just got the magnesium oil today and was wondering if anyone knew how far away to use it from the mms.
I heard of a gal here in town that was recommended by her naturopath to use it for a skin condidtion and she LOVES it. Her skin is doing great in a very short period of time. All for now and good luck in your journeys to health,
Mel
By: Mel on November 3, 2008
at 6:43 pm
Hi there, I’d being following all the interesting stories on MMS and I’d like to do a further reading if a kind hearted person can email Jim’s book to me as I’ve tried to download it in the last one month without success.
Thanks for your help.
By: Zahealer Raphael on November 4, 2008
at 12:01 pm
Hi, both my husband and myself are taking MMS. I am on 5 drops a day and he is on 10. He has emphysema and is hoping the MMS will help. We also take Magnesium transdermally and had been taking MSM aling with Vit C powder, but stopped while on the MMS. Will now take MSM on it’s own. I have noticed that my husband’s breathing is far less laboured while asleep. He still gets very breathless during the day, but his appetite has increased and he does not complain of feeling the cold as much, Would using MMS along with DMSO transdermally on his chest help his lungs? Have found everyone’s comments very helpful.
By: jenne on November 5, 2008
at 5:55 am
Mel,
Im no practitioner or anything but I will say from my own experiances Magnesium Chloride Oil is something I swear by.
I had alot of itching skin which stopped right after using it. However be mindful of how often you use it. It was Magnesium Chloride Oil baths daily that gave me the cleasning crisis I spoke of in my first post here.
But all in all great stuff.
Namaste
By: Paul on November 5, 2008
at 2:43 pm
Paul,
Thanks for your post. I will keep an eye out for staying at smaller amounts. The mms is doing great for me now and I’m hoping just spraying the mag on 8-10 suirts a day will be okay . I’m on day two and still feel good so I’ll stick to that as I will be upping the mms again this weekend starting tomorrow. The mms has worked way better than all the herbal supps I’ve taken over the last 5 years and is comparable to doing the green raw wheatgrass diet in detox but this is WAYYYYY easier and not quite as painful (maybe because I’m chicken and going slow as a snail) I still eat very well but just not all raw. anyway good luck and take care
Mel
By: Mel on November 5, 2008
at 6:16 pm
I’m wondering what’s up with Howie.
By: R on November 6, 2008
at 5:58 am
Jenne,
I believe that applying MMS infused DMSO directly to your husband’s chest would indeed be helpful. Both of these compounds are beneficial in the amounts we’re talking about. The DMSO will help penetration, and the MMS will oxidize pathogens.
Should be a great combination. You’ll have to experiment with concentrations, but I’d start the same way you normally do with MMS; one drop and then move up from there. If you already have a level of dosage that you know you can take orally, I’d still cut that in half as a beginning point for transdermal application. It’s a suggestion. Your experience will ultimately guide you.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on November 6, 2008
at 8:34 am
Paul,
Calcium bentonite clay, if mixed in a 1:9 ratio and drank, should indeed mitigate the possibility of diarrhea. The clay is highly absorbent, and is also a selective detoxifier, like MMS. It does not oxidize like MMS. It simply “attracts” pathogens, which are either absorbed into it, or “adsorbed” (stuck) and then escorted out the system through the colon.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on November 6, 2008
at 8:38 am
Mel,
Great to hear your progress! Thank you for sharing. Keep it up!
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on November 6, 2008
at 8:40 am
Mel,
I hear what your saying about keeping the MMS to tolerable limits. I will use it again myself when I get rid of the abcess. But wonder if I should just stay at lower doses say 10ish or thereabouts 2x daily and perhaps push up one drop per week to see if things get too much.
Alot of people have told e that even if you use MMS just a couple drops a day it will slowly work. Just take a while. That being said Im going to see what happenes when mixing DMSO and MMS internally later.
Jenne,
On Jim Humbles site he mention in the questions and answers about mixing it. But he mentions a few different protocols for mixing it. In some he suggests adding it in drops equal to the amount of citirc acid. And in another he says to work up to 2 tablespoons. So hard to say.
Here is the page on DMSO and MMS
http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=196
By: Paul on November 6, 2008
at 2:31 pm
Paul. I have been doing this since August and started with 1/2 drop. The highest I’ve been to is 14 drops once a day. After the Herx I went down to 7. Now I’m at 10 at night and 2 in the morning and upping it this weekend, then stabalize through the week upping it again on the weekend. My goal is to be at 15 twice a day by the end of the year, feeling as good as I do now i think it is doable. I think I will order the dmso after I’ve been doing the Mag for a while just to make sure I know what is doing what. I LOVE seeing progress even slowly it’s so amazing what we can do naturally. visualizing yourself whole and completely healthy in all areas is very helpful to me as well. I also use a method called EFT (a cousin to acuupuncture but self applies with tapping on the points) and it has helped me with everything from stomach ache, knee pain and headache as well as emotions. it might help with your teeth pain. Take care
Mel
By: Mel on November 6, 2008
at 4:35 pm
Adam,
Once again I seem to be pressing you for info and for that I applogise. However, I was just about to ue the MMS by activating 10 drops, waiting 3 minutes and then adding the DMSO to brush yesterday. But then I had a thought. Do I add water to that sololoution or just brush it topically neat?
I know it may seema silly question but on reflection either way seemed plausible to me.
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on November 10, 2008
at 3:14 am
Paul:
Here is a post that Jim Humble posted on his website regarding the use of MMS topically.
I believe he said to use water in the solution IF your skin is sensitive to the MMS topically, but I invite you to read on:
Clint
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This protocol has been used enough times to convince us that it is the most successful so far for life threatening diseases. Normal flu and colds do not need to be this intense.
The protocol uses two different techniques to get the chlorine dioxide into the body. The first technique is what we first called Clara’s 6 and 6 protocol. That was where we gave a person 6 drops of MMS with the activation and then waited one hour and then gave another six drops. Many amazing things happened when using this six and six. However the thing that developed from the concept was to use the 6 and 6 three times in a day. In the morning, at noon and in the evening before retiring. When using the 6 and 6 three times a day in conjunction with the “Overnight Cancer Cure” protocol first suggested by R. Webster Kehr there is a tremendous improvement of results that are not obtained by using either protocol by itself. When Kehr first suggest this new Overnight Cancer Cure (OCC for short) there had been no actual treatment of actual cancer cases.
However, I began using basic technique with cancer patients and patients with other life threatening diseases. The results were in many cases quit amazing as I was mostly suggesting the use of both techniques together. Cancers dried up and tumors simply began falling apart, and other problems began to drop away.
You probably know we don’t have any millions of dollars or even thousands of dollars for reseach, but many people do call me, and I do suggest things to do, and some call back to say how they are doing. I base my conclusions on those who call back or those who come by my house in Mexico.
One cannot begin to use the 6 and 6 technique with persons that are very sick. They must be treat very carefully. We usually start new cancer patients that are very sick on 1 drops doses. So we use 1 and 1. That is we do a single drop dose and then wait an hour and then do the second drop dose. We do this in the morning, at noon and at night. That makes for 6 drops during a day for a very sick person. Some people might start at 2 and 2. Again that would be 2 drops and wait an hour and then two more drops. Again this would be done in the morning, at noon, and then in the evening before bed. OF COURSE, WHEN I SAY 2 DROPS OR 5 DROPS OF MMS OR ANY OTHER NUMBER I ALWAYS MEAN THAT 5 DROPS OF CITRIC ACID SOLUTION OF LEMON JUICE IS USED WITH EACH DROP OF MMS. ONE THEN WAITS 3 MINUTES BEFORE ADDING JUICE OR WATER TO THE DOSE. ALWAYS, 5 DROPS OF CITRIC SOLUTION OR LEMON JUICE IS ALWAYS ADDED TO EACH DROP OF MMS.
Depending upon how sick the person is determines the number of drops to use in the starting doses. A person who is running around OK could be started at 6 and 6 drops doses. However, no matter how many drops one starts with, if he does not notice any nausea the next day he should increase the number of drops by plus one. If he started with 6 and 6 then the next day he would go to 7 and 7 three times during that day, and the day after it would be 8 and 8. Anytime one notices nausea, always drop back a drop or two for up to a day before increasing the drops again. So that is the technique for using Clara’s 6 and 6 drop doses one hour apart. They should be increased slowly, carefully one drop a day until you are at 15 and 15. It may take a while to get to this point as the cancer should be almost cured by this time. Often the patient will get nauseous and you will have to drop back.
THE BASIC PRINCIPLE FOR ALL LIFE THREATENING DISEASES IS ALWAYS GIVE THE PERSON AS MUCH MMS AS HE CAN STAND WITHOUT GETTING VERY NAUSEOUS, OR GETTING DIARRHEA. THAT MEANS OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY, NOT JUST ONE BIG DOSE, BUT MANY DOSES OVER THE DAY, USUALLY AS I HAVE DESCRIBED ABOVE. SUCCESS IS DETERMINED BY THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP INCREASING THE DOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WHEN NAUSEA SHOWS UP, BACK OFF WITH LESS DROPS. QUITE OFTEN, THE PERSON WILL REACH A POINT WHERE HE WILL REACT WITH A LOT OF DIARRHEA OF NAUSEA. STOP IMMEDIATELY WAIT UNTIL THE NAUSEA OR DIARRHEA IS GONE, THEN START AGAIN WITH LESS DROPS PER DOSE, SOMETIMES LESS THAN 1/2 OF WHAT HE WAS TAKING. ALL DOSES SHOULD BE THE SAME, SO IF YOU REDUCE TO, FOR EXAMPLE 9 DROPS ACTIVATED MMS, ALL DOSES SHOULD BE 9 DROPS OF MMS BEING TWICE 1 HOUR APART THREE TIMES A DAY. (THAT’S A TOTAL OF 6 NINE DROP DOSES). REMEMBER, ALWAYS AS MUCH AS HE CAN STAND WITHOUT GETTING NAUSEOUS OR DIARRHEA.
Now for the second technique. This is a variation of the technique suggested by R. Webster Kehr. Kehr has suggested several techniques however the technique that I suggest here I and my Mexican partner have been suggesting to people for several months. I work with people on the Internet and she and I together with people here in Mexico. With the two techniques given here together the results are much better than either one alone.
IN ALL CASES ALWAYS CHECK BY USING A TINY AMOUNT OF THE SOLUTION ON A SMALL AREA, WAIT SEVERAL MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO SEE THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE A REACTION.
The second technique we call “MMS by Skin,” since one is using DMSO to cause the MMS to enter the body through the skin. Kehr calls it something else, but since I am using it differntly I’ll give it another name. In this technique all doses are 10 drops of MMS, 50 drops of 10% citric acid solution, or lemon juice, wait 3 minutes, and then add one teaspoon of DMSO. One stirs the DMSO in carefully and then begins to use the solution right away by rubbing the entire amount into one arm or leg or belly or even his back if someone is helping him. On the first day one uses this technique once every two hours all day long. So one uses a 10 drop dose every 2 hours rubbing it first into one arm, then two hours later the other arm and then two hours later one of the legs is used, then of course the other, finally the stomach and then back to one of the arms.
One the second day, instead of every two hours one does it every hour all day long for up to 12 hours. The the same thing is done on the 3rd day. One then discontinues, rests for 4 days and then does it again the next week. Do it once a week until well. So one is doing the MMS by mouth as given above and the MMS by skin as given here both at the same time.
This technique is OK for pregnant women, or children, but remember, children are much more delicate. In the case of children or women add one drop of water for each drop of DMSO. When beginning to use the solution one very gently rubs a small amount onto the child in an area about the size of a quarter to see if their will be an adverse reaction or if the DMSO will burn the skin. With children use one drop of MMS for each 20 pounds of body weight. Use 8 drops of DMSO for each drop of MMS. Measure it all out before you add the citric acid solution, but do not add it until the citric is mixed in and one waits three minutes.
Those few people who notice that their skin seems to burn from the MMS and DMSO can used something like 50-50 mixture of Aleo Vera gell and olive oil. If the skin does burn, the next time add one teaspoon of water with the one teaspoon of DMSO.
Remember, use both methods given above at the same time.
THE CITRIC ACID SOLUTION IS ALWAYS A 10% SOLUTION. IT IS EASY TO MAKE. JUST USE 9 TABLE SPOONS OF WATER TO ONE TABLE SPOON FULL OF CITRIC ACID CRYSTALS.
By: Clint on November 10, 2008
at 8:13 am
Thank you Clint,
As I say this is just to get past any blocks in my system that cause pain and discomfort. Mainly my mouth, gums, jaw and face. But also my nose.
Im beginning to think it could be down to funguc around these areas but who knows. I figure if I brush my teeth with MMS and DMSO 3 times daily it should help with my mouth. Its just to get past this phase so I can drink it internally is all. That being so Ill see if I can clear the abcess and take it from there. Perhaps some variation of the method could simply be used in my face and nose. But Ill not get ahead of myself.
Ill let you know how it goes. Ill try it neat first also.
By: Paul on November 10, 2008
at 3:41 pm
Paul:
I’d strongly suggest trying the Silver Water…in particular the Molecula Silver (smaller particles)
http://www.clo2plus.com/
Having the MMS AND the Silver in your system will surely speed up your healing time.
Clint
By: Clint on November 10, 2008
at 4:56 pm
Clint
I see do you mean to suggest taking this on its own or away from MMS and food?
I jut brushed today with the neat MMS 10 drop activated and 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO. It does taste horrible. But I can deal.
Thing is I got to thinking if the brushing was necessarry. Perhaps I could down an amount of DMSO on an empty stomach (How much I would not know where to begin) and use the MMS in standard protocol and see if that helps the clear the blockages.
That being the case I wonder if the Silver would further that cuase?
Paul
Namaste
By: Paul on November 11, 2008
at 10:16 am
Paul:
Am npt sure if I can answer your question…but here is what I know….
MSM (not MMS) is the dried for on DMSO. The MSM is a powder, and have been taking it for years, in water, with meals. The MSM helps to clear detoxification pathways ands absorb supplements at a deeper cellular level.
So, you might as well start taking the MSM (Powder) and NOT the liquid DMSO, and that might help your situation.
Also, the Silver AND the MMS (like you were asking) need to be taken a few hours away from food…so as not to interfere with it’s own work.
I have never known anyone to DRINK DMSO….. which is one of the reasons why MSM in dry, powdered form was created.
Hope this helps,
Clint
By: Clint on November 11, 2008
at 3:31 pm
Clint,
Yes DMSO is pretty unpleasent but I am not actually drinking it at this stage. Just adding it to the MMS 10 drop mix as Adam suggested to me earlier. I was 2 weeks back brushing with MMS in half cup of water but ran out. Besides it was taking a whle to work. Nonetheless it was working.
This was why I was wondering if I should simply add the DMSO 3 minutes after activating the MMS and brush it oin neat or add the half cup of water.
As to the silver it sounds like it helps break down bacteria and fungus making it easier for the MMS to do its work. And therefore do not require being taken apart from each other provided they are taken away from food and antioxidents.
Please correct me if I am wrong. And thanks for the info. Its very easy to get lost when being a DIY healer.
Regards
Paul
By: Paul on November 12, 2008
at 5:50 am
Hi all you self-healers out there!
I’ve been out of the loop for awhile, but with all of you in spirit. I enjoy this site for sharing — it’s an incredible gift.
Well, I am still going with the MMS program in that s-l-o-o-w fashion. Been on it for 3 months now, and have learned so much from my experience. I am now on 8 drops before bed and 5-6 drops in the morning. I would love to shift to take my second doseage midmorning or midafternoon, but it seems too risky to take it and not consume any food for about an hour, cause I’m busy working and all, and not as mindful.
I also have added another regiment to my MMS, which is consuming one tsp of Terramin clay in a cup of H2O first thing in the AM. I find that it helps in providing the toxins a way out of the body through the ionic action. I have a little more sensitive stomach with my morning dosage, so I keep that lower than the evening one.
Also, if I ever get that diarrhea or upset stomach from the MMS, I immediately do the Terramin, one tsp in a glass of water, and another if the first doesn’t do the trick. I find it works almost immediately, if not within a few hours. These two products seem to be quite compatible in my body. Note that every person’s reaction is different — some people get the same detoxing symptoms of diarrhea just from taking Terramin clay if their body is super toxic. So try it and see — for sure the Terramin doesn’t have any other side effects other than getting the bad stuff out of you and feeding your body important minerals.
I’m puzzled by people saying there is a smell to MMS, I don’t smell anything. I like to watch the drops disperse in the water and react with the citric acid, and then the juice.
Anyhow, at my 8 drops, I feel great! No more symptoms of herpes, still working on the candida.
Oh, and one more thing, I found out that one of the reasons I reacted so strongly to MMS in the beginning was I was taking other pH balancing products, like Kangen water and these other drops — it could very well be that I was actually too alkaline, or possibly that my body didn’t like changing over to alkaline too fast. I stoppped those other products and my body was much happier.
Even though I only do a very slow increase in drops gradually over time, I find I can actually feel its effects in my body. I feel the MMS moving through my body after I take it, like an activation process. I feel like it is oxygenating my blood and my cells, although I have not had it validated through dark field microscopy yet (I will soon).
Each time I increase my doseage by a drop, I try to give my body time to adjust to it in a positive way, rather than waiting for the diarrhea to tell me I’m going too fast. When I feel totally comfortable with it after 3-4 days, then I might increase it again.
Someone was asking about allergies – I had very bad allergies and sinus problems, and did an allergy blood test through my doc and a company called Immuno 1 (www.immunolabs.com). I found out I was allergic to 24 very common foods. I went on a strict diet away from those foods and ALL my symptoms disappeared, including mucus, sinus infections, eye irritations, coughing, indigestion and nondigestion, diarrhea and constipation, skin problems, low energy, insomnia. After 2 months, I was allowed to gradually reintroduce those foods 3 new ones per week and watch for reactions.
Will do more catching up with the rest of you soon…
Karen
By: Karen on November 20, 2008
at 3:17 am
GREAT post Karen, thanks for sharing your knowledge….
Was curious what brand of Clay you use, and where you order it from…..
thanks
Clint
By: Clint on November 20, 2008
at 5:02 am
Karen,
My thanks also. I think many of the adverse reactions some of us have had is down to taking doses far too high too fast. In know in my mind the goal was to get to the 15 drops 3x a week as fast as possible. It only recently occured to me I could do it one drop increase a week or even month.
I know exactly what you mean about feeling it working through your body. I am still brushing with 10 drop and 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO 3 daily and can feel it working under my gum line. I beleive the Abcess has gone now and it hasnt even been 2 weeks yet. Ill continue for a little while longer to be sure.
Also I can feel it working in the back of my mouth and up my nose. Around that thin membrane at the top. I can also since yesterday smell a yeasty smell up my nose. Thats just how effective it is. And I know I felt an odd sensation there shortly after drinking MMS orally. My guess it is fungus being worked on in that area.
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on November 21, 2008
at 5:29 am
Where did you get your dmso? I ordered from vitacost and after taking 3 weeks of no delivery, they refunded me.
By: kirk on November 21, 2008
at 9:08 pm
I have been reading all these blogs trying to gain some more insight into MMS. I have been on this now for several weeks. I have gotten sick with colds and more things than I can remember in the last several years. I believe very much that disease does in fact start with outside invaders. I do have a question for anyone that knows, and it not guessing. It was also asked by someone else and not addresssed. Unfotunately right now I am taking PX meds. (Hopefully not forever) it is an anitseizer med called lamictal. If anyone knows their meds, they know this is a strong drug. I know even with certain herbs you need to be careful in mixing. My question is doe anyone have any info on mms with anti seizer meds and ssri drugs? Are the interactions ok for them? I would appreciate any input on this. I am a currently back down to 12 drops twice daily.
THX KS
By: KS on November 22, 2008
at 8:41 pm
Hey KS,
I got my DMSO from a US company online to my home in the UK. It took 2 weeks to arrive but I guess it at least came. Besides I did order all the way from a US company to my home in the UK. So it may be quicker if you use them.
Its from this site http://www.kornax.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=KE&Category_Code=DMO
. I found it while looking for decent quality strength. Its 99.99% Pretty good.
By: Paul on November 23, 2008
at 1:21 pm
Kirk:
I buy a lot of my DMSO stuff here:
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-nature-s-gift.html?gclid=COO90766jZcCFQkiagodjWDU9A
By: Clint on November 24, 2008
at 1:03 am
Hi,
Noticed my abcess began to come back a little. This could simply just be a process of eliminating toxins being released by the MMS entering my gums and jaw in a cycle. But I dont know. Did notice shortly after my abcess shrank certain areas below my teeth began to hurt a little but nothing as bad as my other encounters. Also today a second lump has appeared just behind the far left lower wisdom tooth.
I decided today to quit brushing an begin drinking the MMS in standard protocol but just bring the doses up at a more steady rate. I considered dong both the MMS doses and my regular brushing 3 times daily but thought this may be like overdosing. Again I would not like to overdo the MMS and have serious pains in that area. Perhaps that is an inaccurate assmesment however and I am sure people here may be able to set me straight. ut for now I will play it safe.
Also for the first time evcer in my life I have developed chillblanes. I wonder if this is related to the abcess and pains in my mouth. Should I drink the DMSO with the MMS?
Namaste
Paul
By: Paul on November 29, 2008
at 5:09 pm
I must say that I am a sceptic – but after two rounds of chemotherepy for testicualr cancer, I am willing to give MMS a go. Apart from the typical protocol that is advised, has anyone had any experience lik mine and are willing to enlighten me?
By: Marc on November 30, 2008
at 6:18 pm
I must say that I am a sceptic – but after two rounds of chemotherepy for testicular cancer, and a third coming, I am willing to give MMS a go. Apart from the typical protocol that is advised, has anyone had any experience like mine and are willing to enlighten me?
By: Marc on November 30, 2008
at 6:19 pm
WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME THE RECIPE FOR CILANTRO PESTO.
THANKYOU! tdschulz@aol.com
What Iodine do you recommend for hypo-thryoidism?
By: ROBERT G. SCHULZ on November 30, 2008
at 9:12 pm
Robert:
I use this kind… it is recommended by a few doctors here in Houston:
http://www.illnessisoptional.com/ace/product.asp?ProdID=15899&CtgID=&gclid=CN6A5u3KoJcCFQIMswodnRbA-w
Info about iodine can be read here:
http://www.quackcenter.com/iodoralresults.html
Hope this helps,
Clint
By: Clint on December 1, 2008
at 3:40 pm
Quick question. Does Bentonite Clay helps with Nausea or just Diahoerea?
By: Paul on December 4, 2008
at 1:27 pm
Hi Paul,
Calcium bentonite clay will tend to soothe in any way the body needs. Because it absorbs and “adsorbs”, the toxins that might otherwise be let loose in the body would be taken up in the clay, thereby reducing both the urge to vomit and firming up one’s stools.
By: phaelosopher on December 5, 2008
at 2:18 am
Thanks Adam,
I had to drop my MMS dose of 10 drops as I felt a little more ill than is “convienent”. Wish I worked for someone in this filed for a living as they might understand. So I think the Bentonite is the way ahead for me then.
Just so you know I went down to 6 and am keeping tabs for a day or two before going to 7. In other words not giving up.
By: Paul on December 7, 2008
at 11:53 am
I do quantum biofeedback and simply amazed at what I am seeing the MMS do with my clients and my machine simply reads their life force so I am watching before my eyes…simply put miracles.
I myself had chronic fatigue virus and in 3 weeks it is gone!
I am so excited to share this stuff…it is simple and cheap
By: teresa on December 8, 2008
at 4:45 pm
Great to hear Teresa! Perhaps you’d like to share some time on my radio show.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 10, 2008
at 3:52 pm
Teresa
Where you able to get to 30 drops a day in three weeks. I have been upping it so slow for 5 months now and am just at 25 drops then have to drop back. Did you just do it and suffer and get over it fast or was it just not bad for you? I’m glad to hear your machine is showing possitives. I wish I could see that on myself just for verification. Take care and thanks for sharing!
Mel
By: Mel on December 10, 2008
at 8:49 pm
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at 7:10 am
I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE INFO YOU HAVE GIVEN ON MMS, AND COPIED ALL 232 PAGES, SO I CAN RE-READ AND LET IT SINK IN!
PLEASE SEND ME THE RECIPE FOR CILANTRO PESTRO.
THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP!
By: ROBERT G. SCHULZ on December 12, 2008
at 7:38 pm
Can you tell me where I can purchase
Chlorine Dioxide Toothpaste? Has anybody tried it?
My third Request– Recipe for Cilantro Pesto.. I Emailed Carol (see Nov 16 – 2007) but no responce.
tdschulz@aol.com
By: ROBERT G. SCHULZ on December 15, 2008
at 1:29 pm
Robert,
You can get the chlorine dioxide toothpaste at Frontier Pharmaceuticals. http://www.frontierpharm.com or http://tinyurl.com/65zl94
I’m sorry for the silence on the cilantro, but I have only a vague recollection of what it’s about, and who promoted it. I don’t recall talking to anyone about it, although I have heard about it somewhere.
I did a search on cilantro pesto, and came up with this link regarding removing heavy metals, which is probably why you’ve been inquiring here.
http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html
I hope this works for you. If so, let us know!
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 16, 2008
at 2:35 am
Hi Adam,
Great work you guys are doing. Please could you give me some feedback on Candida and yeast infection whilst taking the mms. In your opinion is it enough to clear it on its own.
Regards
Pete
By: Pete Fordham on December 21, 2008
at 1:43 pm
Hi Pete,
Your body has the final say on what will bring it into balance. MMS will certainly help. How, to what extent, and how quickly can only be determined by embarking on the journey. Is MMS enough to clear the candida and yeast infection on its own? That’s another question that no one but your body knows. Will chlorine dioxide act on candida and the yeast infection? You bet! Happy holidays and best wishes.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 24, 2008
at 8:06 am
Pete,
I heard about MMS from my Chiropractor, and we have used it with great success on the flu. Works everytime.
My Chiropractor has several patients with Candida, and on girl has rid herself of it with several doses of six drops twice a day. Within two days the Candida symptoms disappeared.
I hope this helps.
Blindman
By: blindman on December 21, 2008
at 8:05 pm
Adam,
I appreciate your efforts regarding this website and blog. I believe that the body heals itself, and our attitude and belief level are strong indicators of how well we will recover.
Just about five years ago I had arthritis so bad I had to sit for a while when I got out of bed; I had to get prescription glasses; I had grand mal seizures from time to time; and my legs were breaking out with brown spots.
Using a change in my diet, attracted the information I needed, and began to cry out to the Creator for help; also, using gratitude and visualization; I recovered from all the above.
Then, I found out about MMS. For me and the people around, it has turned out to be a Godsend. I helps me to see how well I am and provides a method to gauge my health.
Anyway, I digress. Your site is informative, and I find my self there daily.
Keep it up.
Blindman
By: blindman on December 21, 2008
at 8:17 pm
Blindman, your insight is always welcome. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and helping others find their way.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 24, 2008
at 8:08 am
I have a silver cap over my second bottum molar and I would like to know if that will decrease the effects of MMS
By: denni on December 24, 2008
at 7:09 am
Hi Denni,
No, a silver cap on your molar won’t decrease the effect of chlorine dioxide that is generated from MMS. Mega doses of vitamin C would, but not that.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 24, 2008
at 8:10 am
Hi, I am 31 and have been extremely ill for the last year; my weight dropped dangerously low and the many doctors I’ve seen have been baffled. I have much internal inflamation, bad liver tests, and a parasite their medicine won’t get rid of. The illness started after a trip to Mexico. I test negative for their diseases they put a name on, and so they just send me home.
Up until this I have lived a very active and healthy life, and now have had to look at writing a will. I have tried many natural doctors & herbs with no help.
I have been on MMS for three months, and am wondering if I need to do the 15 & 15 drop dose (if it is the parasites that are killing me, the doctors do not know what the cause is) or just keep working slowly. I am at around 8,4,7,6 drops in a day. Any doctors, getting in touch with jim, or advise would be greatly appreiciated. Thank you.
By: Jeanne on December 26, 2008
at 11:06 am
Jeanne, when you say you’re on 8,4,7,6 drops a day, are you saying 25 total drops a day? or that the drops that you take vary by that much from day-to-day? I can forward your question on to Jim Humble, though in the meantime, knowing that chlorine dioxide will oxidize the cell wall of any parasite, I’d gradually increase the individual drops as you’re doing, and also consider activating the MMS and then adding to a small amount of DMSO (3/4 tsp.) and applying that topically. The DMSO will deliver the chlorine dioxide molecule throughout the body.
By: phaelosopher on December 27, 2008
at 1:31 pm
Hi Jeanne
Sorry you aren’t doing so good. There is a lab that I have used that can isolate what parasite and other bacteria you have. It also would tell you what would specifically kill it from herbal to pharm. It tests for DNA particles left by the bugs. Supposed to be 99% reliable. It showed specific bacteria I carried that where antagonisitc. It showed a friends parasite she caught from Mexico. It’s called metametrix.com It might help in at least the diagnostic part. Good luck to you.
Blessings Mel
By: Mel on December 27, 2008
at 7:21 am
Adam,
I am on 25 drops in a day, some days less. Thanks for your advice and time, I do believe if I can find the right treatment I can heal and get back to life. Jim did get in touch with me and I’m going to try some aztec clay along with MMS. He says fungus may be the part of the problem. I will also check into DMSO. It is a relief to find this site, and get your suggestions, and help. Thanks, again.
Mel, thanks for the name of that lab. I couldn’t believe you knew about it. I had no luck with hospital labs, and it was months before a natural doc found Metametrix. It did identify parasites, and near zero good bacteria. The lab did not send what medicine to use on the parasites, but the ones the doctors had me use did not have success; I still tested positive. Your help is very appreciated.
Jeanne.
By: Jeanne on December 28, 2008
at 1:11 pm
Hi Jeanne,
I am confident you’ll find the right combination needed to bring things back into balance. Remember, that’s all that you need to do… be in balance, and bring your body back in resonance with you.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 30, 2008
at 11:08 pm
Hi Adam
Firstly a very happy and prosperous New Year to you and all who use this wonderful site. I have been searching for a reason for my tiredness and as suggested by you “a blockage somewhere in my major organ/s” was correct. An ultrasound showed a “fatty liver”. I dont drink so its life style for sure. Will MMS help or do I need the traditional liver herbs and/or DSMO? any advice would be very appreciated. Best wishes to all, and the best Christmas present the Universe could give me was Obama as your new President. Congratulations.It will have a very positive effect here in Australia!!
By: Clare on December 30, 2008
at 1:29 pm
A Fair Dinkum Day to you Clare!
I’d start by drinking more water… don’t know what your normal intake levels are, but it can’t hurt to increase it. DMSO may work well on its own to dissolve any stones that could be clogging the liver (and anywhere else in the body). If it’s a parasite, the MMS would help. Please consider putting yourself in a quiet state, and asking your body what does it need, and be willing to trust the answer that you receive.
Thank’s again for the positive thoughts and wishes. Let us know how you’re doing.
Warmest regards and Happy New Year!
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 30, 2008
at 11:04 pm
I’ve been using DMSO, MMS and MSM topically. I rub it on over a four hour span once a week as my doctor instructed. I also drink bentonite clay each morning. So far I have nothing good to report, just the opposite. Stomach bloating is worse, my teeth have become sensitive to temperature and even sounds like when I hear dishes rub together. On the mornings after I do a treatment I wake up with my bladder and kidney area aching. I have been more tired than what my typical chronic fatigue feels like and with added stiffness,achey feelings and just feeling cranky all the time. Today I’m worried that I’ve been doing myself more harm than good.
By: Chelsey on December 30, 2008
at 5:01 pm
Chelsey, it seems as though you’re breaking down more toxins than your body is eliminating. You’re too successful at one thing, but as Clint is pointing out, you need to make sure that you are drinking enough water. You’re taking some great stuff, but you may need to cut back until you’ve done more hydrating.
If you haven’t already done it, you should also consider doing an intestinal cleanse, which would clean up the lining of the entire length of the colon. Please refer to the reference to Oxy-Powder at the end of the article.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 30, 2008
at 10:56 pm
Chelsey:
Question: . . . have you been drinking MORE water since you started the MMS protocol ? By more water, I mean 6 (12oz.) glasses of water from 8am – 6pm.
Reason: since the MMS is now destroying pathogens in your system, it needs a method to be transported out….if not….your in trouble by more discomfort.
What is your diet like…have you given up all Dairy foods ? All soft drinks ? Sugared foods ?
Please…if you would, give us a complete description of what else you’ve done to get well, besides just taking MMS.
(if you care to)
Clint
By: Clint on December 30, 2008
at 10:14 pm
Adam,
I am new to MMS and am wondering. How do you know that all diseased body tissues are acidic and other tissues are not and thus ClO2 won’t react with them?
I am not a skeptic, but I am curious. I am greatly impressed by the effort you put forth on this blog to help others. You must be a saint.
Best regards, Ben
By: Bennet Simonton on December 30, 2008
at 10:17 pm
Hi Ben,
No saint here, but thank you for the thought. My sphere of contacts didn’t begin and end with Jim Humble. He brought chlorine dioxide to our attention and developed a workable delivery method for it to do its thing inside the human body. But there was quite a bit of data available to corroborate his assessment of how the chlorine dioxide molecule behaves.
The medical term for a body that is in balance is homeostasis. That is when the immune system is at its peak, and there is sufficient oxygen (ions, energy) flowing through the system. A body that is in homeostasis is slightly alkaline (7.2 – 7.4 pH). Certain bacteria, parasites, fungi, and yeast, are all in the acidic range of the pH scale. Yet, healthy human tissue will be alkaline. Dr. Otto Heinrich Warburg was awarded a Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for demonstrating the relationship between the presence (or absence) of oxygen, and the growth or recession of cancer cells (tumors).
So there is quite a bit of information available from many sources that explain the chemistry of chlorine dioxide that is derived from MMS, including my documentary, which is available at: http://www.understanding-mms.com.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 30, 2008
at 10:49 pm
Thanks for the info, Adam.
About a year ago, I began educating myself on the acid-alkaline issue. Read a bunch of books and website articles (especially Sang Whang), tested my pH (~5.5), and changed my diet which I had considered healthy, but too acid (characterized by 2 eggs, bacon, potatoes and toast with jam and butter, coffee daily). I also began taking pH drops from Sang Whang to boost the pH of the water I injest. After 9 months my pH is 7-7.5, my loose teeth (bad gum disease) have tightened, I lost 25 pounds (never really overweight a lot), and am feeling great (never really felt bad).
I have been aggressively researching health and disease cures for about 18 years. The acid-alkaline way of looking at health made it all come together and resolved the many dichotomies in the knowledge I had gained. A month ago, I came across MMS and read Humble’s book. To say the least, I am impressed.
One more question. Are you saying that all diseased body tissues are acidic and healthy tissues are alkaline????? Please just a yes or no or not sure if “all”.
Seems like the biochemists and labs that analyze biopsied tissue would know definitively the answer to that question.
Thanks again for your responses and best wishes for a very Happy and Prosperous New Year.
Ben
By: Bennet Simonton on December 31, 2008
at 7:17 am
Greetings again Ben,
I’m sure you’re right. I’m not a biochemist, but I understand this much about human physiology as it relates to acidity/alkalinity: Certain regions of the body, such as the mouth, digestive tract, and skin (epidermis), are acidic by design. But overall, the body is alkaline by design, as evidenced by the definition of homeostasis. So the word “all” would not apply with respect to diseased body tissues.
However, when normally alkaline tissue doesn’t have enough oxygen (i.e., negative ions, free electrons, energy), it becomes diseased as cells die off, just like we will when we don’t get enough oxygen. The fundamental problem that we face when the body chemistry gets out of balance (and low on oxygen in certain areas), is the over abundance of organisms that congregate in those areas, which don’t require oxygen (since the normally oxygen-rich environment is depleted), and in turn produce acidic waste by-products. Chlorine dioxide, as delivered through the MMS protocol, reduces that microbial and antigen overgrowth through oxidation. It’s also important to introduce the various vitamin, mineral, enzyme, bacterial, and amino acids, the depletion of which brought on the overgrowth in the first place.
Thank you for the well wishes, which I likewise send to you.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on December 31, 2008
at 7:40 am
Thanks for the replies, Clint, Adam,
I am taking that advice you both gave about drinking more water. My health issue has been going on for almost 10 years now. My doctor and I think I’m a case of heavy metal poisoning from a job I had. My symptoms are chronic fatigue, anxiety, depression, anemia, very high cortisol for years now, high c reactive protien, inflammation, adrenal exhaustion at one point, hypothryoid with a nodule in one lobe, and a higher than normal virus load (cytomegalovirus, epstien barr). Also I can’t forget the IBS. I don’t have diarrhea or constipation. I simply have extreme bloating on a daily basis. I also seem to be allergic to just about everything I eat, though my allergy test only picked out five things. A couple years ago I did IV chelation. Can’t say for sure if that helped at all or not, but in about a years time after I was starting to have more good days than bad. I thought things were looking up for me but then about 5 months ago my fingertips started wrinkling up and burning, feet too. My latest diagnosis for that is peripheral nerve disease. I knew something else was going to pop up because I had developed dark circles around my eyes.
As far as my diet goes I do eat lots of fruits and veggies. I do drink diet drinks, but not a lot, mostly water. I have done a stint with no meats, dairy or sugar and I can say that it did improve the food allergies and hypoglycemia but all the other issues were still there. My goal was to shrink fibroids, and it did a little…but I sort of fell off the wagon with that diet. I do go out of my way daily to eat lots of superfoods. And btw, I’m 43, not overweight and whenever the energy comes I do exercise. Some of the supplements I take are mega
Yesterday when I posted I was feeling awful and a bit skeptical. I do believe that it is killing pathogens, but I worry that it may be harming me in other ways. I read so many forums and mostly find people feeling bad on the stuff and very little reports of people saying it has benefited them at all (apart from sites selling it, and many of those sites all use the same testimonials!). I read on http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org (which is the site my doctor referred me to) that people see a benefit in 2 to 3 weeks. So far I’m only feeling worse and I’m on my 5th week. Where are all these people that it has helped? If it does indeed end up doing great things for me I will sing it’s praises from the rooftops and you will see me on youtube promoting it. If it doesn’t work I’m already lined up to be put on Oxidative Stress Relief. Another “amazing” product! I feel like a guinea pig! I appreciate your replies and forgive me if I sound cynical. It’s just that I’ve tried so many things and wasted so much money in the past.
Regards,
Chelsey
By: Chelsey on December 31, 2008
at 6:56 pm
I accidently chopped off a paragraph there. I do take multi vitamins, Q 10, fish oils, Gla, a prescription B vitamin called Cerapholin with NAC, an iron food supplement and Mega minerals.
Chelsey
By: Chelsey on December 31, 2008
at 7:00 pm
Chelsey:
I wanted to ask you…
You mentioned just above here that you take a Multi-vitamin…. PLEASE be sure that the vitamins you are taking don’t contain ANY vitamin C. As the Vit.C will disable or neutralize the MMS….thus making it ineffective.
Hence the reason why you might not be gaining much/any headway.
Just a thought.
Clint
By: Clint on January 1, 2009
at 3:02 am
Thanks, Adam.
I can see that I must better understand the role of oxygen and what happens when there is not enough.
Thanks a bunch, Ben
By: Bennet Simonton on January 1, 2009
at 5:19 am
Adam,
One more question. Do you have any experience using MMS to cure or mitigate Macular Degeneration? My nextdoor neighbor just returned to Florida for the winter and has developed a bad case.
Thanks again, Ben
By: Bennet Simonton on January 1, 2009
at 10:01 am
Clint,
I avoid vitamin C on the day of the treatment which I only do once a week. Should I avoid it on the days leading up to the treatment? In my doctor’s instructions it simply said to avoid vitamin C during treatment. I assumed that meant on the day that I do it.
Thanks again,
Chelsey
By: Chelsey on January 1, 2009
at 11:21 am
Chelsey,
My sense is that you’re doing things fine with vit. C. While it will de-activate the chlorine dioxide generating actions of MMS if you take it concurrently, there’s no reason to avoid it before hand. Outside of pathogen reduction, the body has no inherent physiological need for chlorine dioxide, in the way that it has definite needs for amino acids, enzymes, and aerobic microorganisms. Individually, chlorine dioxide molecules last only 2-hours. Jim says that the generating process can last as much as 12. It’s also permissible to ingest juices that *naturally* contain vit. C. So it’s only if you’re taking large doses if it’s even an issue. You’re doing some great things for yourself. You should see and *feel* the results you’re seeking as your body gets back in balance.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 3, 2009
at 8:17 am
Chelsey:
Tough call… Adam may have some more exact experience with that.
For Me, I avoid it all together when taking MMS, as well as Multi-minerals with C in it. But that’s just me. I always believe that the C will be active more than a day, even though it’s a water soluble vitamin.
My 2c
Clint
By: Clint on January 2, 2009
at 5:49 am
Adam:” I have been reading the posts here that go back a whole year now. Quite a lot to read. Where are the real tales of real miracle cures? Unequivocal, real cases with no if, no but, no pause, no maybe.
Mr. Humble says this will cure nearly every pathogen caused disease there is! My God do any of you know what that means for humanity if true? Because this product is legally available, and so easy to use, no ammount of “they’re trying to suppress it” would keep this from being a runaway major news story, on the front pages of the world. “They’re trying to suppress it!” is the fall back excuse for health frauds everywhere.
If it worked for even one aids patient, he would certainly have immediately recommended it to all the other patients he knows. It would then immediately get talked about on AIDS discussion groups, and spread like wildfire. The resulting snowball would take at most a few months to envelop the world, and out-momentum the most enthusiastic of “they’re suppressing it!” attempts.
Adam, this forum should be chock full of real miracles by now. Instead, it’s chock full of people who are “experimenting” with it.
Humble should have won some sort of Nobel Prize for medicine by now. Works for Malaria? I live in a country full of Malaria. If this even cured 25% of malaria cases it we would all know about this by now.
As a businessman of 35 years, who has developed many different products and brought them to market, this argument of “they’re suppressing it” sorry, just don’t fly. The FDA and others may very well be trying to keep it from coming to market, but their not Gods. If this did what it says then then entrepreneurs of the world would have found a way by now to take this to a vastly bigger market than it has reached so far.
By: Jack on January 3, 2009
at 6:54 pm
Hello Jack,
There are no miracles here, just information and support for those who need it. Jim’s hyperbolic statement has more integrity than the idea that chemotherapy or radiation can help “cure” cancer, but no statement will apply to all instances. MMS / chlorine dioxide WILL reduce pathogens, when standard medical procedures treat pathogen infested bodies by introducing more pathogens.
When there are too many pathogens in the body — inorganic or microbial — health suffers. Chlorine dioxide is a known water purifier that safely reduces pathogens. There’s nothing miraculous about that. What’s changing is the public’s understanding of what’s really going on, and their willingness to see for themselves whether, and how it works for them.
I have spoken to people who have watched cancer tumors disappear, warts disappear or drop off after many years, lyme symptoms go away, hepatitis symptoms leave, and many more. One man called me recently whose friend Joe (not Joe the plumber) called me several times when had liver cancer, not for advice, but explanation of how it works; the chemistry. The friend watched what happened to Joe (restored health), and wants the same thing for himself. He doesn’t have liver cancer, but want his health back. MMS doesn’t cure cancer. It reduces pathogen overgrowth, enough to allow the immune system to function again. So Joe told him to call me to do what he did, get a better understanding of what MMS/chlorine dioxide does.
The big revelation to all this, is that healing is not the big deal everyone has been led to think it is. Most people still don’t believe it, but many are now finding out for themselves. It will be this way for some time.
This forum is just one place where MMS is discussed. Certainly not the only one. There are stories of success here, but we’re not trying to prove or convince anyone of anything here. If someone needs help, it’s being given by people who understand that it can help. They also understand that MMS is not a magic bullet, nor a miracle cure. It’s a simple chemical compound that has been ingeniously conceived and applied to a major problem of humanity. But each will get the “memo” in their own time. It still requires the individual’s willingness to see what works best for him or her self.
I’m not concerned about suppression. No one has suppressed us here. You say that the forum should be full of miracles by now, as if the dearth of such testimonials indicates some failure. I believe the FACT that it’s chock full of people who are experimenting with MMS is proof positive of the site’s success. At the top of this web page is a simple article with information about MMS that, as of this writing, almost 60,000 people have read and found beneficial. They’re free to use it or move on. Below the page is the community that was spawned, of people who respect each others’ willingness to listen, and to share.
We don’t live in the world of “should be.” This is the world of what is. Whether Jim Humble gets a Nobel Prize for MMS is meaningless to someone racked in pain from cancer. What is meaningful is whether the pain goes away, the tumors shrivel up and disappear, whether energy and vitality returns. ENOUGH people are reporting positive results… to their friends, families, loved ones, doctors and neighbors, to keep the buzz going and growing .
A medical missionary called me the other day to tell me of an M.D. who is on the Cambodia / Thailand border, administering MMS to children with malaria. In five initial cases with children, two got well in a matter of hours, just as Jim Humble described. This is with NO prior experience with MMS… just reading the instructions. The caller was asking for clarification from Jim Humble on how to improve their results. People are still LEARNING what’s possible… people who are INTERESTED in the SUCCESS… not of MMS, but of healing. As long as healing happens when people use MMS, they’ll continue to endure the smell and taste. They’ll continue giving themselves a chance to be well again.
“Modern medicine” isn’t offering such hope, nor do the results support them. Nonetheless, institutions are collecting billions each year to do research “for the cure,” but all they deliver are updates on how many years it’ll be before their “cure” is discovered. In the meantime, poison remains one of the fundamental tools in the “modern” medical doctor’s toolkit. Compromising the immune system remains an accepted medical practice in hospital practices so that the drugs and other antagonistic approaches can be used. They try to bring about health by dominating Mother Nature, which is not only an exercise in futility, but delusion.
You’re right. The FDA are not Gods. What people are learning, is that they have much more power than the doctors and the medical system would have them think. MMS is just one tool that can help, and is exactly where it needs to be right now. People are becoming more aware, primarily because it is working. If it wasn’t delivering some form of noticeable, meaningful and beneficial results, you can bet that would be the predominant conversation.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 3, 2009
at 8:28 pm
I cannot comment to the success of MMS because I just recently started to use it. But I can comment on a cure that has been out there and it has been suppress by the company who makes it. Oh yea – you can cover up product results because the product is to good cures to many things. Have you heard of TetraSilver-TetraOxide. First you do your clinical studies in a 3rd world country (Honduras) then you get many patents on the product then you get the FDA approval for its use then you water down the product and sell it. Remember the most important thing about business is creating repeat customers. If you were to cure people (customers) you would have a loss of income ($$$$). Just search the web with the name of “TetraSilver-TextraOxide. Read the Patents. One last thing Chlorine Dioxide is used for water treatment well Trivalent silver – TetraSilver TetraOxide is also used to treat water. See I am sick and I have been able to get the water down version of TetraSilver but I can’t get a full strength product so I have now started to use MMS and will see how it goes. Thx.
By: Chuck on January 3, 2009
at 9:36 pm
Dearest Jack:
Because this product is legally available, and so easy to use, no amount of “they’re trying to suppress it” would keep this from being a runaway major news story, on the front pages of the world.
Please don’t hold your breath . . . am not sure how long you’ve been observing things, but . . . (and I mean no insult by this) There is TOO much money to be lost in “Treatment and Diagnosing” rather than curing someone.
If your wondering WHY MMS hasn’t taken off, and being used my more people, doctors, clinics, etc…. You NEED to read about (as an example) Get Dr. Royal Raymond Rife (if you haven’t already)
And you will have then answered your own question.
MMS has already started to be Banned from Mexico & Canada . . . with the U.S. to be next.
From this, you might can get an idea of how the “System” works in America . . . it’s corrupt.
Doctors think as a Group, NOT as Individuals . . . (cept of course our dear friend Dr. Hummiston, and thank God for him !)
Anyway… sorry if I ranted…
Clint
By: Clint on January 4, 2009
at 12:23 am
Hi Adam
Id really really like to give mms a go as i have been ill for years with a terrible imune system, i am told from tests i have a very low killers cell count. I am constantly beaten down with virus’s and just get one on top of the next. They say it’s M.E
In your article under ‘A journey into chemical alchemy’, in paragraph 4 you say ‘this compound kills off pathogens, KILLER CELLS, and even cancerous cells’
Is this really true does MMS kill off the bodies killer cells? As i am so deficient in them i wouldn’t want to kill any more off! Does this mean that you would have to take mms forever as when you stopped you would have no natural defences left?
Or am i misunderstanding something?
Id appreciate your advice very much
Thanks
Carie
By: Carie on January 4, 2009
at 7:49 am
Hi Carie,
Somewhere I thought I had responded to this, but I hadn’t. Chlorine dioxide does one thing, oxidize molecules that “vibrate” in the acidic range of the pH spectrum. Some molecule clusters are more complex than others… for example, a virus or other anaerobic microorganism, versus a mold, yeast, or tumor. The factor that each shares in common with the other, is emanating a “signature” or “frequency” that is low pH, which also has oxygen inhibiting, antagonistic, or averse properties. The chlorine dioxide molecule takes away up to five of the “valence electrons” that hold these molecule clusters together, thus ceasing their existence in that form.
My use of the term “killer cells” referred to “cells” — actually organisms — that, perhaps due to their overgrowth, have a net detrimental effect on the host — meaning you or me — as opposed to those whose function is to work on our behalf, such as leukocytes (white blood cells) or T-Cells (lymphocytes). None of these are negatively affected by the presence, or action of chlorine dioxide.
Also, I am not an advocate of thinking of anything “physical” in terms of “forever,” including MMS intake. Jim Humble would likely say otherwise. As an individual becomes more aware of how to sustain his or her health, and be healthy, not only of body, but of mind and spirit, health and the ability to perpetually heal will come from within, which is where it comes from now.
Chlorine dioxide and every other modality that works, does so only with your and my readiness to be well, awareness (or belief) of our power to affect it (well-being), desire, and permission. This is an ongoing process from one moment to the next.
Chlorine dioxide creates no physiological dependencies. No one is going to get “addicted” to it. You can use it as long as there is evidence that it is needed.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 7, 2009
at 6:42 am
Thanks for the above responses. I know I sounded quite critical and doubtful, but in fact I’m going to give MMS a try for low level candida, and possible parasites. Going to try and get some today. I live in Bali, Indonesia. Amazingly, it is available here, and it’s not too much more than the U.S. price.
Reason I’m going to try it is that
1. I’m convinced it won’t do any harm, and,
2. I have read Humbles detailed and tedious technical responses to critics (bit difficult for a non biologist, lol), and he certainly seems to be able to hold his ground. Impressive. If he was a quack, he sure did his homework, I’ll hand him that, lol.
3. I have a great many Balinese friends who cannot afford good medical care for things like Dengue fever, cancer, et al. In the interest of finding an alternative I could recommend to them, Ill try it MMS out.
But:
Hyperbole is great when your selling a new car, or kitchen doo-dad on a telemarketing spot. It is downright irresponsible when selling health cures, IMHO. Humble may think it that it will help spread the message, but it most very definitely turned me off, as well as the two other blokes I know reading about this, and it took a great deal of effort on my part to “get over it”. Humble should consider that most of us out here looking at this are not a buncha dumb 12 years olds.
Also, we must always be careful of coming to quick conclusions, me included. I have a friend here who knows a guy who had his blood tested for something, (forgot what) had a pathogen, took MMS for a couple of weeks or so, had his blood retested, and the results were very positive. But in addition to the MMS, I believe he also he did an entire health regime involving many positive things. How easy and tempting it would be for a distributor of MMS to point at that as proof – when in fact, it could have been due to any of a number of positive things the guy did.
If you MMS people cannot afford to do a proper double blind truly academic study to shut up the naysayers, look for investors who will put up the cash for it in exchange for future returns on sales of the product. There are people out there who would take a chance on it, I’m quite sure.
Thanks again for your responses phaelosopher and clint. I will post here what results I get. Might take a month or so though.
By: Jack on January 4, 2009
at 4:13 pm
Hi Jack,
I got a call today from an ecstatic man who had non-hogkins lymphoma a couple months ago. An AMAS test confirmed it. He was calling today to tell me that he no longer had the cancer, and another AMAS test confirmed that. This turns out to be the man (with a friend named Joe), who I referred to in my long reply last week. Sam is 62 years of age, and acknowledged that the process wasn’t fun. He said he was “sick” for a period of time, and that it passed. His friend Joe insisted that he get another AMAS test. He was hesitant, but finally relented, and was rewarded with confirmation.
No one is trying to over state what chlorine dioxide does. It’s not a magic bullet or a cure all. No one should rely on sound bytes to make life affecting decisions, although millions of people do when they succumb to the suggestion to “see your doctor” for just about everything short of permission going to the bathroom. I think Jim understands that too, because I’d bet that no one who monitors this forum relied solely on Jim’s initial claims, and very likely were reserved, if not skeptical, myself included.
You mention “MMS people”… “MMS people” don’t care about “academic double blind” studies. They care about getting well, and what will help them do that. In that sense, you’re an “MMS person” since you used your own common sense, and took responsibility for your choice after weighing the information available. All “investors” would do would be to try to drive the price of the product up to make it more profitable. Who needs, or wants that (other than investor types)?
In any event, thanks for your thoughtful input, and best wishes…
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 5, 2009
at 6:32 pm
Great Jack…. am glad your biting the bullet !
Look forward to hearing good results,
Clint
By: Clint on January 4, 2009
at 11:35 pm
phaelosopher – thank you. Actually I meant “The” MMS people and was referring to those manufacturing and marketing it.
In any case I have three questions, and thanks in advance for you help:
1. If I want to continue to take C, I understand that I can, as long as I don’t take it at the same time as the MMS. Correct?
2. How much time should there be between the two? (around 500mg of C, in a multi vitamin Im taking)
3. As long as I can stand it, MMS on an empty stomach is better, no?
Warm regards,
Jack
By: Jack on January 6, 2009
at 2:33 am
Yo Jack,
1. Yes.
2. 3-4 hours. If you were taking 2-5 grams, 8-12 hours (if feasible)
3. The emptier the stomach, the better. In fact, you’ll get more effect in fewer drops.
I’ll also suggest that you consider a 7-day intestinal cleanse before starting, using Oxy-Powder (a combination of oxygen and magnesium). It’ll eat away any “stuff” that is lining the colon that the MMS would have to work through, and help the chlorine dioxide get into the bloodstream through the colon wall faster. You take four capsules at night on an empty stomach before going to bed. The next day, you’ll have to go “unload” 5-7 times. It’s not a laxative.
http://shop.understanding-mms.com/oxy-powder.aspx
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 6, 2009
at 6:28 am
sorry one more question:
I understand about ions, and about gaining or losing an electron. But we’re talking about atoms when we use these terms. At least in any science I have ever learned. “Positively charge hydrogen atom” for example.
A pathogen is not an atom, but an extremely complex collection of different types of atoms and molecules. I don’t understand what you mean above when you say that pathogen is stripped of some of its electrons, with all that in mind. If pathogens were individual atoms this would make much more sense to me.
What am I missing?
Thanks again!
By: Jack on January 6, 2009
at 4:37 am
There are single celled organisms, but even they are made up of many atoms. There are no single atomed organisms. Depending on the organism, the atoms that comprise it will be “organized” by a unique combination of proton(+)/neutrons, and electrons (-), as a solar system or galaxy would be. Electrons move around the proton/neutron (nucleus) in an orbital path, at a very specific angle. A specific number of each atom (which itself is a very specific system of subatomic components) will materially represent a specific particle, such that which would comprise the cell wall of an E. coli bacteria. Each molecule will have a specific number of electrons orbiting the proton/neutron nucleus that holds the cluster together. One characteristic of these molecules, is that the frequency signature that they emanate will be chemically measurable as having an acidic pH.
Such molecules now become “donors” to a chlorine dioxide molecule, which will draw up to 5 electrons from the acidic molecule, which effectively causes it to chemically break down and reorganize into something else. The “something else” has been shown to be inert and non-toxic, unlike the chemical process that occurs when a chlorine molecule has a similar encounter.
Since electromagnetic forces are at work here, and all pathogens and anaerobic microorganisms happen to emit chemical signatures that measure somewhere in the same acidic range, the only determining factor as to whether they will be eradicated, is contact itself. The susceptible microorganism may be pleomorphic, but they cannot sufficiently enough to become alkaline. That’s the only way that a chlorine dioxide molecule will not react and accept their electrons on contact.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 6, 2009
at 6:52 am
i have a question,i have had hep c for i,m assuming 20 or 30 years,i just found out recently,6 years back,now i do a virail load test every 6 months and my emzyme levels are always normal with no liver damage at all,as soon as i heard of mms i purchased some and have been on it for aproxx 2 weeks,when i hit 13 drops i increased the dosage x 3 every day,its my 6th day on 3×15 and i have been ill for 3 of them with lots of dihharia,i also have been very strict with my health even before i found out i had hep c,i think it is what has kept my immune system charged to keep the hep c at bay,but i,m sure as i get older my immune system would weaken and the hep c would then prevail,i really belive in this mms and if you have any suggestions or have heard of any similair sympytons that would be much appriciated,as soon as i do the complete cleanse i will do a virail load test and let you know the results,do you think the sickness is the result of the battle with the hep c and should i stay on it untill the sickness is gone??thankyou so much,perry
By: perry volaine on January 6, 2009
at 9:05 am
THIS IS MY FOURTH REQUEST.
PLEASE SEND ME THE RECIPE FOR
CILANTRO PESTRO. I WOULD
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. OR, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF
ADAM ABRAHAM, SO I CAN CONNECT.
THANKYOU, tdschulz@aol.com
By: ROBERT G. SCHULZ on January 6, 2009
at 12:49 pm
Robert,
I am not the custodian or keeper of cilantro pesto recipes. However, on December 16 I included a link to what may be what you’re looking for. If I could search for it and find it, so could you. But here it is again.
http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 6, 2009
at 4:44 pm
Adam……. I swear… you have the Patients of Jobe !!
By: Clint on January 6, 2009
at 7:18 pm
Hey Clint! I thought that issue had been tabled. Hopefully he’s happy now.
Best 2009 wishes to you!
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 7, 2009
at 6:48 am
Hi Adam
Please could you reply to my question of 4th Jan regarding what you said about MMS killing killer cells in the above article.
Id really appreciate your help clarifying this as i am poised ready and wanting to order MMS but need to find the answer to this first.
Thankyou for your help
Carie
By: Carie on January 7, 2009
at 12:23 am
Thanks Adam !
Best wishes to you in 2009 as well !
I do have a question I’ve been meaning to ask you …
I have an Ozone machine and use it while am doing MMS . . . (I do rectal insufflations 1 or 2x’s a day)
My question is… will the Ozone that is in my system, inactivate or cause the MMS to be ineffective if I do them BOTH at the same time ?
Thanks again Adam,
Clint
By: Clint on January 7, 2009
at 2:15 pm
The only thing I know that will deactivate the chlorine dioxide molecule, or its generation, is vitamin C. Ozone has characteristics that are unique to it, that don’t appear to conflict with chlorine dioxide or MMS. I figure Jim would have said something about it by now, so that’s my best guess.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 7, 2009
at 2:27 pm
Adam. Matter of fact I do have some oxy-powder, and
Questions about oxy-powder
1. My bowel movement comes out like I had the runs. Is this normal? They don’t say anything about that on the bottle
2. I tried using it for two days. First day, woke up to a nice evacuation that was so copious that I do not see how the rest of the day could have brought any more, (i.e. 3-5 times more trips). No way. Got it all out on that first one, sure seems like. But, I upped the dose anyway like the bottle said, and had the same experience next morning, and then that was it.
Should I keep upping the does anyway? Very hard for me to believe I will eventually get the required number of movements this way, considering how successful the first one in the morning has been.
regards,
Jack
By: Jack on January 7, 2009
at 5:57 pm
Hi Jack,
BMs will be loose. It is liquifying “stuff” that was compacted. So I’d say that’s normal.
I wouldn’t fret about it if you didn’t go 3-5 times that day, if what you did do was significant. When I took it I went more than 5 times.
[Is this an open forum or what?]
These are guidelines and likelihoods. Nothing is “required” for success. Success is evacuating that stuff that’s in the colon… looks like you’re doing it.
Another indicator is whether the discharge “clears up”… and is no longer the dark “soup”… if you know what I mean. As long as it’s dark, I’d continue. You can experiment with the number of capsules. Here is some more information from the formulator:
How will I know when my bowels are clean and the old compacted fecal matter is gone?
Everyone’s results differ depending on their diet, exercise patterns, and age as well as physical and emotional stress levels. The frequency of your bowel movements will usually begin to diminish as the digestive tract rids itself of toxic matter. The stools may still continue to be loose or semi-solid, however, due to the oxidation process.
At this point the nascent oxygen will be available for the body to absorb through the capillary walls in the intestinal lining thereby aiding the body in the purification of the blood, organs, and lymph system. However, to ensure you continue to stay as clean inside as possible, you should eat only live, raw fruits and vegetables and completely eliminate the intake of all toxins.
Because the Standard American Diet (SAD) is so poor, we believe you will need to cleanse on a continuous basis to help keep the entire intestinal lining clean. Therefore, we recommend a continued maintenance dose every other evening at the minimum. Use your bowel activity as a guide. You will know how “clean” you are by the color, consistency, and frequency of your bowel movements.
As the intestinal tract is becoming cleaner, the color of the bowel movement should be much lighter and transit time (time from eating to elimination) should be shorter. You should also be experiencing more frequent, healthy, softer, and smoother bowel movements. The oxygen released by Oxy-Powder® is helping to kill all kinds of anaerobic bacteria.
Some people will notice a foul smell in the initial stages of cleansing. Over time, there should be a noticeable decrease in foul-smelling bowel movements. A normal and healthy bowel moves in a timely manner, with the “product” being lighter in color, relatively smooth, and also slick in appearance.
Probably much more than enough said.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 7, 2009
at 6:15 pm
Adam,
My wife has severe rheumatoid arthritis. She now is beginning to show signs of joint deterioration. Can MMS help with RA?
Thanks or your time.
John
By: John on January 8, 2009
at 7:01 am
John, the short answer would be “yes,” chlorine dioxide would help with rheumatoid arthritis. But I’m long-winded, and “yes” is too short of an answer. It’s best to understand why. Your wife isn’t experiencing inflammation, joint pain and deterioration due to age. It’s due to (1) insufficient hydration, (2) microbial overgrowth, and (3) too much toxicity (acidity) in that area.
Insufficient hydration can occur due to any blockage in the circulatory system, which is not comprised of just veins and arteries, but much smaller passageways such as capillaries. According to Jim Walker, Holocaust: American Style, the circulatory system in the human body has 62,000 miles of plumbing. It should be looked upon as a hydraulic system, with fluid pumped through it. Blockages, caused by plaque build-up, or particulates in the blood plasma (water), will inhibit circulation in some areas. When the inhibition is prolonged, blockage happens. When blockage is prolonged, oxygen supply to the area is restricted, and when that occurs, cell death (necrosis) happens.
When cell death happens, microorganisms that don’t need oxygen to live on, are summoned. Their purpose is to sustain life, by halting the spread of cell death. After all, if the necrosis continued to spread, the host would eventually be toast. However, the anaerobic microorganisms also produce waste products, which lower the body’s pH. Plus, the more severe the necrosis, the larger the microbial party. And so, a circle is created… or perhaps a downward spiral that gets worse the longer it lasts.
Enter chlorine dioxide, a gaseous molecule with a weak bond that lasts in that state for only 2 hours, and breaks down into a harmless amount of salt and water. However, while it exists, it can immediately de-activate any anaerobic microorganism because it takes up to 5 of the electrons from the molecular structures that maintain the integrity of the organism’s physical form. When this electron transfer occurs, the microorganism, or the organic pathogen (heavy metal, etc.), becomes debris, to be “flushed” out of the body.
I got carried away. The answer is “yes,” MMS can help RA. Your wife should drink some form of high alkaline or structured water, to ensure effective hydration. Hydration would mean that oxygen is getting into the cell, which can then be converted into ATP (energy). That’s when life and health happens.
Best wishes,
Adam..
By: phaelosopher on January 9, 2009
at 12:18 am
Hi, someone at work told me about MMS, I am wondering what the benifits are for weight loss. I am not drastically overweight, but have put on 30 + lbs since I’ve stopped running and boxing. I am working more hrs (10 day x 6 days, for a construction project), and after a severe muscle tear in my ankle, and a surgery for a ruptoured cysts in Dec 07. I’ve seem to hit a brick wall, I am tired all the time, can’t focus, don’t have any energy, pain in my stomach almost daily, and 5 or more monthly migranes. I know I need to start excercising again…but can’t seem to get the energy? Ideas or thoughts?
thanks
By: Kate on January 8, 2009
at 3:49 pm
Hi Kate, “weight loss” is often not about what we think it’s about. We tend to think that being “overweight” means having too much “fat”… too much meat on the bones. Being overweight is more so carrying too much unprocessed and uneliminated fecal material, which lines the 28 feet of the colon. We’re friends here. You don’t have to answer the question, but you need to ask yourself how many times you “go”… if you know what I mean… each day. If it’s not generally three times, or occur in some regular pattern each day, you’ve got a backlog of “stuff”.
That “stuff” is a nest for pathogens, anaerobic microbes, yeast, mold, and parasites.
That’s why I now suggest that people do an intestinal cleanse even before starting their MMS protocol. You’ll see a link to Oxy-Powder in another reply not too far up from here. I believe it will give the MMS less to have to work through in order to get to the wall of the colon.
The migraines suggest a liver problem… and “problem” suggests blockage. Sounds like you have a bit too much toxicity, and it’s not being properly eliminated from the body. MMS is a great way to reduce it. Drinking alkaline or structured water will always help, as will the intestinal cleanse before you start it all. Dr. Edward Group of Houston TX, who developed Oxy-Powder, also says that he’s seen best results from cleanses after 3’s, 6’s, and 9’s, as in the number of times they were done.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 9, 2009
at 12:40 am
Hi Adam
Horay thant’s great to hear it dosen’t kill your killer cells and bodies natural defences.
Thankyou so much for reassuring me on this point, now I can try MMS at last i have been wanting to for a while now.
Thankyou for your kind help
All the best for 2009
Carie (UK)
By: Carie on January 8, 2009
at 11:29 pm
Of course Carie, and thank you too!
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 9, 2009
at 12:41 am
Hi, someone at work told me about MMS, I am wondering what the benifits are for weight loss. I am not drastically overweight, but have put on 30 + lbs since I’ve stopped running and boxing. I am working more hrs (10 day x 6 days, for a construction project), and after a severe muscle tear in my ankle, and a surgery for a ruptoured cysts in Dec 07. I’ve seem to hit a brick wall, I am tired all the time, can’t focus, don’t have any energy, pain in my stomach almost daily, and 5 or more monthly migranes. I know I need to start excercising again…but can’t seem to get the energy? Ideas or thoughts?
thanks
By: Kate on January 9, 2009
at 10:41 am
Hi Adam,
I followed your suggestion and “asked” my body what I needed to do re my fatty liver. I am a occasional drinker only so it is too much dairy etc that has bought this on. I am now (2nd week) on Dr Sandra Cabots Liver cleansing diet. Its hard but the results are amazing!! over 2 kg weight loss and feeling very energetic. I need to lose 10kgs so I am very happy . Its a 8 week programme and I am determined to succeed.
Thanks again for your blessed blog site and your amazing patience.May the great Universal Divinity bless all.
Cheers
Clare
By: Clare on January 13, 2009
at 5:44 pm
Clare,
It’s great to re-establish communication with your trusty servant. It IS really looking out for you, and can advise you as to what it needs better than anyone else. I’m glad that you’re starting to get some great results.
Best wishes and GREAT health to you!
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 16, 2009
at 1:25 am
Hi again Adam,
I wanted to know the protocol for topical application of MMS for Basal Cell carcinomas. Could you please advise.
Many thanks
Clare
By: Clare on January 13, 2009
at 5:47 pm
I spoke to a man who eliminated his basal cell carcinoma the old fashion MMS way, by taking it orally. He didn’t mention DMSO at all, although you can certainly use it. Are you familiar with the “Overnight Cure for Cancer” protocol that uses activated MMS, and then bound with DMSO, to be applied topically? Here’s the link:
http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html
A~
By: phaelosopher on January 16, 2009
at 1:23 am
Clare:
Here’s Jim Humbles website with step by step instructions on how to apply MMS via the skin:
Click here !
By: Clint on January 14, 2009
at 4:33 am
Hey Clint!
Great to see your name again, many thanks for the heads up, hope your “wellness” is great and getting greater. How blessed are we that we have this wonderful resourse and instant info at our fingertips. Not forgetting Adam our “guardian angel” in our quest for health and wholeness.
Cheers
Clare
By: Clare on January 14, 2009
at 2:52 pm
Clare:
I agree ! I am forever greatful that we have have Mavericks like Adam and Jim on our side to consult with.
Hope you are well !
Clint
By: Clint on January 14, 2009
at 3:32 pm
Hi Adam,
I have been on clay for 17 days now, with no change in my many syptoms yet. I am waiting to hear back from Jim with his thoughts on my progress. I thought I’d check with you, I figure there is never too much help. I’ll try to give you a little more info. on what has happened.
2006 had been very healthy, and active. In Nov. 2006 I went to Mexico. About 6 months before that my bedroom was found to be chuck full of mold.
In 2007 I started having my heart race, sometimes very near the point of passing out. I also would get dizzy, and lose some equalibrium. And I would cough, sometimes to the point of throwing up. These would only happen once or twice a month so for the most part I was okay. In November 2007 I got immediate bad diareah, the upper abdomen bloating, and felt like I was going to bust, just before going to ER I through up, and got some relief. Laid still for three days not eating or drinking, and it went away as quickly as it came.
January 2008, chest pain and burping. Then the upper ab. swelling, and bursting pain a few hours after food or WATER. Going off food, and water did not help this time, so I went to doctors. Over months they found inflammed colon, intestines,stomach, & organs, very bad liver tests, low white count, heart raced & inflammed, tongue had yellow color, head would hurt horribly, joints, numbness, very dizzy, armpits swollen, I felt toxic and poisoned. But I did not have any diseases they put a name on so they sent me home. I went in as needed, and lived on IV fluids. I did test positive for parasites, they gave me meds. and I started to get some food and water down. I was so HAPPY. But only lasted about a week, & the busting pain was back. I also was still testing positive for parasites. After three months my weight was so dangerously low; I found a doctor that forced my body to take fluids and food. After weeks it worked; still had all the horrible symptoms.
I have seen a ton of doctors (medical & natural) with no change. When I got fungus mentioned by Jim in December it made some sense of why docs haven’t found the cause of my illness yet, and why 29 drops of MMS made no change. I haven’t had any docs mention or test for fungus.
I have talked with Dennis Richards on silver, he said if it is fungus, that has gotten to this point he did no feel it would be effective. He mentioned John Humistons kit. I know that you have spoken with Dr. Humiston, and did not know if there was a way to reach him. I would love to have a conformation on what is causing this, or better yet find what my body needs to get back to living.
Your time and knowledge is very appreciated. Thank you, Jeanne.
By: Jeanne on January 14, 2009
at 4:50 pm
Jean, I’m going to see if I can get another opinion for you. Hang in there another day or two, and let’s see what we come up with.
You mention the parasites, and that they gave you meds for them. I’ll assume that the meds were toxic. Sounds to me that an intestinal cleanse might speed this process up. Try the Oxy-Powder, as it dissolves anything that is lining the wall of the entire length of the colon, which could be a nest and breeding ground for parasites. Better yet, it’s natural — oxygen and magnesium. The body can use both of them beneficially. There’s a link in the article above.
We’ll also see what feedback I get from another source. I’ll let you know in a few days.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 16, 2009
at 1:18 am
hi Adam, i have been recently reading about MMS because I got so tired of my Doctor telling me they couldn’t find anything wrong with me, even though I felt awful. Finally after enough research, I decided to give MMS a try for myself. There only seems to be a little information on the use of Antioxidants, such as Protease, while using MMS. How long after taking MMS is it ok to take an antioxidant? Also, I have read somewhere (don’t know exactly what site) that if you get diarrea immeadiately after taking MMS, then it is NOT a good thing. How true is that and about how long should the effects of diarrea come on? I know Jim says that the MMS can be released for up to twelve hours, so does that mean that the ill effects of the detoxing (such as nauseous or upset stomach as well as the big d) can last that long as well?
Thanks.. Mike
Oh and one more thing. Are there any websites that show an actual slide of blood before and after using MMS?
By: mike van on January 17, 2009
at 10:48 am
i am sorry i forgot to write this yesterday. I started taking MMS about 2 weeks ago with one drop, increasing everyday. I had no problems until i hit day 9. Since then i have backed down drops, but still getting the Big D. I use grape juice without vit C in the morning on an empty stomach. About an hour later i eat something and then maybe about a half hour after that i have going to the bathroom. I don’t mean to sound gross, but i don’t know where else to ask this question. When i go to the bathroom it smells exactly like grape juice. Does this mean that the MMS i am taking in the morning just goes right through me and that my body is rejecting it?
By: mike van on January 18, 2009
at 8:37 am
Hi Mike,
Hey, don’t worry about “gross.” The worse question is the one unasked. Outside of cutting back on the drops, the first thing I’d do would be to find another carrier than the grape juice you’re presently using. Cherry and pomegranate are pleasant enough. Diarrhea isn’t necessarily a problem, as it means that the MMS is neutralizing more stuff that needs to be flushed out of the system.
You can also activate the MMS and then add 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO, and apply it to the skin, bypassing the intestinal tract altogether and getting the chlorine dioxide into the bloodstream. You would activate the MMS as you normally do, waiting the three minutes for the chlorine dioxide to be generated. Then you’d add the DMSO and wait another three minutes before applying topically. After getting some feedback from your body, you might do that several times in the day.
BTW, are you taking the MMS to achieve a specific objective?
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 18, 2009
at 10:09 am
Thanks for your response Adam. About 4 years ago, I woke up one morning and was dizzy and tired. I went to the doctor and he said wait about two weeks and then we’ll see what happens. After two weeks, I was much worse, with intense virtago and other problems. I went to numerous doctors and specialists who had me do every kind of test you can imagine. After the MRI’s and catscans and blood work came back negative, they all started to tell me that it was either in my head, or just a virus that settled in my inner ear. After two years, it went away and I was fine. Then recently, I woke up one morning with all the same symptoms. Again, the same result with the doctors and so i started to research online. I actually read something on MMS on one of those Yahoo question and answer sites, so I started to look into it. I never try anything with out doing enough research for myself and after doing so, i deceided it was time to try it. I have felt better even before i started the MMS so right now I really don’t see a diference. Basically, I want to clear out what ever virus (if it even was one) that caused my problem. I am only 29 so, I want to get rid of the toxins before they build even more.
Do you know what to do about the Antioxidants? and any websites that could show actual before and after slides of Blood using MMS?
By: mike van on January 18, 2009
at 10:57 am
Hi Mike,
Do you notice whether the onset of this condition coincides with certain types of events, such as some form of high excitation, shock, injury, or even emotional trauma? It could even be a major change in your life just before that two-year episode that you described. Just curious.
There certainly could be an environmental factor — something airborne or contracted through some other form of exposure or consumption, that is in your body that your immune system might very well take care of, but will flair up again due after eggs hatch, starting the cycle again.
This is just conjecture on my part, but chlorine dioxide would oxidize unhatched parasitic eggs too, as their cell walls are in the range of its reactivity.
I’m not sure what you mean about the antioxidants.
I talked to a man about three months ago who had been diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma which had been confirmed by an AMAS test, and was encouraged to use MMS by a friend who had used it while eliminating his liver cancer condition. The man said he wanted to achieve what his friend had done. About a month ago, he called me back with great excitement, saying that he took MMS, and felt great, but his friend insisted that he take another AMAS test to confirm just what had, or had not happened. The test came back negative. No lymphoma.
I have to assume that laboratory tests are indeed capable of showing the after effect of “disinfecting” the blood of pathogens.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 20, 2009
at 6:47 am
Dear Adam,
I have recently (before ~10 days) received an email about something called “one-minute cure” which leaded me to a web-site, and I buy a book which promotes Hydrogen Peroxide for similar results as MMS has.
Later, in forums I read about MMS as well.
After lot research on the net, and without knowing anything ever before about alternatives, FDA and all this big Pharma big fraud against us, and after watching lot of interesting things related to alternative thinking (due to my research and newly opened horizons), including and not limited to “Zeitgeist The Movie”, “The Pharmacratic Inquisition” and lot other interesting stuff, I have totally changed my way of thinking and totally lost my faith in the system. Everything has been broken down, like a paper-tower, and I really trust a phrase Jim Humble said in his book… “The leaders want to kill us” (or something similar rephrased)
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Anyway, I decided to write here, because I wanted to ask your opinion according to your knowledge and older experience in this stuff, for some things:
1. Which substance is better in eliminating terminal diseases, like Cancer & AIDS, Hydrogen Peroxide or Miracle Mineral Solution ?
2. Which of these is safer ?
3. Does it cure 100% or the ailment may return if you later stop taking the substance ?
4. Something unclear, I read somewhere about dental issues and some roots with non-circulating blood in them, which contain the viruses, and thus, make it return when you stop intake, how can this be fixed, in plain English ? (any links ?)
5. Does the MMS have problems when taken with other drugs, such as Thyroid Hormone and Anti-Allergic treatment ? (Does someone with Hypo-Thyroid stop medication while on MMS, and will MMS cure Hypo-Theroid malfunction forever ?)
I have already ordered both substances, Miracle Mineral Solution & Hydrogen Peroxide, and waiting their delivery in this week, so please reply my questions when you find time, I really would appreciate your advice!
Also, last of all, if there is any group or free organization, promoting MMS production and ship to people that need it, like in Africa, please provide links and how we can join/support their efforts.
By: Chris N. on January 18, 2009
at 5:14 pm
Hi Chris,
Here are my opinions to your questions:
Whatever works for the person who is striving to get well. Not trying to be glib. Suggesting that hydrogen peroxide, MMS, or anything else will “eliminate terminal diseases” is no more realistic than thinking that chemotherapy will. A number of factors are in effect when any disease becomes chronic, not the least of which is the mental and emotional attitude of the individual. No one can speak to the efficacy of a treatment without taking the individual receiving said treatment in consideration.
The body doesn’t get terminal diseases. There is no such thing. If a person is acutely ill but still breathing, and desires to continue breathing and be relatively well again, the body has the ability to repair itself and function properly, should the “host” re-establish an environment that is conducive to healthy functioning. MMS can contribute to that process. What it delivers is important, but does not represent the whole of the well-being matrix.
MMS is a milder oxidant than hydrogen peroxide. It only oxidizes anaerobic and other low pH molecules. I think you can answer which may be safer from that.
Are you serious? Do you really think that anything or anyone can make that claim?
You’ll have to ask your question in plain English. It’s unclear to me too.
Chlorine dioxide doesn’t “have problems” with anything but vitamin C, which will essentially turn it off. Any medication that is low pH will give up electrons to a chlorine dioxide molecule.
No one can answer the other part of that question, because no two people are the same. One answer doesn’t “fit” all.
I understand that there are organizations doing what you describe with MMS in Africa, but I am not a repository of such information. However, if you find out something, let us know.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 21, 2009
at 6:22 pm
Hi Adam, I have a question that I cannot seem to find an answer to. I read that the body doesn’t reject MMS, but it seems as that is so in my case. I have emailed Jim Himble because I believe that this is a question that has not been answered by him. I hope he will respond and if not, maybe you could ask him for me. Again, as I stated before, the MMS seems to go right through me, which would lead me to believe that my body is rejecting it as soon as it goes in. Also, I stopped taking it and was nauseus (spelling) for two days after. I thought i would go away within four hours or at least a day. So even though Jim states that there has never been a case that the body has rejected it, it seems as though it does in my case. Thanks for your time. It is greatly appreciated, trust me!!
By: mike van on January 20, 2009
at 7:42 pm
Mike van:
If your interested, I can share (how to) doing MMS by IV, and by-pass your digestive system all together, and hopefully tackle your problems head-on.
It’s obvious that what’s bothering is affecting your digestive tract and is inhibiting the MMS from doing it’s job.
Clint
By: Clint on January 21, 2009
at 10:47 am
Hi Mike,
Boy do you have good “guides” leading you to this great site. MMS has done great things for me and this site has led me to investigate and take control of my health, both spiritual and physical. With your “dizzy” problems have you considered seeing a Osteopath? many of my imbalances are now gone after finding a good Osteo, changing my diet and of course MMS. Good luck and keep persisting, you WILL succeed
By: Clare on January 21, 2009
at 2:20 pm
Hello Adam,
will you please respond my questions too ?
Thank you on advance!
By: Chris N. on January 21, 2009
at 5:03 pm
Done. You’re welcome, and thanks for asking them.
By: phaelosopher on January 21, 2009
at 6:25 pm
Clint and Clare,
Thank you for your responses. The dizzy feeling comes and goes and basically I just waited until, what the doctors say, the virus ran its course. It seems as though, I will really never know what exactly caused these symptoms. Now I am fine, and what I am trying to do is prevent whatever it was from ever coming back. That is why I want to take the MMS. But like I said, right now I have stopped because of the mild nausea and upset stomach. I would like to take it IV, but i probably am going to try the transdermal use first. I am going to take the OXY Cleanse that Adam recommended and then I may try the MMS through the skin. I have probably read every website and every story that people have posted and I am really excited finish the MMS detox. I did run into a comment posted on the Curezone by a “Silver Fox” about experimentation with the transdermal use of MMS and how it should not be as concentrated as 28%. Did any one else read that? And I don’ t mean to sound ridiculous, but what is an Osetopath?
By: mike van on January 21, 2009
at 5:45 pm
Adam:
Without any intention to thumbs-down or turn-down anyone’s physiologic status, I am much disappointed to hear that finally, MMS cannot cure any terminal disease, which is clearly aforesaid on your response.
So, seriously, question to all viewers, researchers, people experimenting and users of MMS, have you ever found or hear anyone being cured by MMS from any terminal disease ?
[about your "Terminal" argument, this is an applicable word of definition of something (virus) that will end something (someone's life), so it is correct to be used for diseases like hepatitis, aids and cancer]
Also, if anyone has ever hear of any 100% cure for AIDS & Hep C. please post links and details…
Additionally, I would like to share a link I found in my research, and ask for previous experiences by anyone, ideas, or reviews/points of view if this might be a proven scam or real cure ?
The link is www[.]helpcure[.]com and these guys state that for 1.400$ they sell a 100% cure for cancer, AIDS and hep. c in 90 days program…
By: Chris N. on January 22, 2009
at 3:18 pm
Hi Chris,
I am suggesting that you turn the focus of your investigation in another direction, on the human being him or herself. There are physiological factors, psychological and mental factors, there are spiritual factors that all contribute to any given individual’s eventual outcome.
Most people, like you, are looking elsewhere for a cure, in fact, anywhere except in the mirror, and in their own heart and mind. Some people believe what I’m saying makes no sense at all. And they are thinking exactly like the pharmaceutical companies and everyone who profits from the status quo want us to think.
This is not to say that people have not been “cured” of major diseases using MMS. It means that MMS “worked” because the individual was committed to restoring his or her health, and left no stone unturned in order to do so. If you’re thinking that MMS is “the” answer, which your question suggests that you are, then you’re looking at this naively.
Readers of this thread need to understand that they can heal, and that there are no “terminal diseases,” not even death itself. Any disease can be healed when you know from whence it originates, and what maintains it. The pathological factors are an effect of other causal factors which MMS has nothing to do with. Most diseases are caused by emotional turmoil, and mental stress, born of judgment, jealousy, envy, greed, fear, and lackadosis, and the distorted view of reality that they cause. MMS won’t do anything about that. It won’t stop or oxidize toxic thinking.
A “hot head” who is not ready to become balanced in their view of life, who is not willing to forgive, or give up abusive behavior, may see only marginal improvement, no matter what they’re using. A person who is willing to laugh at himself, be grateful for the love that he is given, and is willing to give it back, will start healing well before his body shows any change. A person who steps through death’s doorway at peace with himself, is a healed individual.
I know the dictionary definition of the word “terminal.” I’m suggesting to you that the word doesn’t apply to diseases except by our belief. There are no “terminal” diseases that cannot be recovered from if the individual is not yet ready to terminate, and is ready to change his way of looking at, and experiencing life.
As for the helpcure.com site, all they’re doing is email list building. They will give you some information if give them your email address. I see no meaningful information being given there.
Best wishes,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 22, 2009
at 4:23 pm
First of all, I want to state that I believe in democracy, freedom of speech & freedom of thinking.
This post, has no intention to harm anyone’s feelings, or take away peoples’ hope.
Initially, when I found this blog with so many responses, and active people supporting MMS, I was happy, as I thought there must be somewhere a response of someone saying he was cured…
I spend almost 1 week (the nights), reading ALL in this blog, but never found anyone state he was cured.
Now, about medical terminology, meaning of words and logical results, please, all of us, let’s try to be just that. Logical.
Mixing intangible with tangible, alternative perception of what death is and if it exists at all, is not what I am into. If you see it philosophically, yes, the greatest Greek philosopher who wrote about death, Epicurus, stated first world-wide that death does not exist, and nobody has to fear of that “condition”, because when we live, it simply does not exist, and when it comes, we simply as well, not exist, so practically, we NEVER meet death, so in that point of view, yes it does not exist.
But, hey, don’t get me wrong…
Is there anyone who started MMS to just purify his soul and pass the “deaths doorway” healed ?
No, this is not realistic. And even if in the process of researching and experimenting with alternative medicine, people change their perception of things, this does not mean a cure.
Changing my mental status, behavior, perception of things, “talking to myself”, “asking myself”, “flying with ghosts” or any other intangible statements, simply, have nothing to do with resolution of a problem, like an RNA-Virus who infects blood cells.
Positive thinking, good energy, meditation, mind states, and even levels of brain (alpha, theta etc), of course do exist, and of course can help. (even Method Silva, a very old book, includes exact exercises and meditation ways to cure cancel and lot other things).
But still, that is contradicting with MMS, which has a tangible nature (molecules), and not related at all with spiritual things.
So, this is simple, in fact, it is plain logic:
Q: Does MMS work for curing a disease or is just another way of a mutated and advanced money making system for someone ?
A: I am fair. Will not ever say something untruth. I simply don’t know. I never ever seen any result, on internet, on friends, anywhere. I read about potential results, but never seen any post of someone state clearly he was cured. Only seen, is relief of symptoms posts, and suddenly these posters/users (not only here, everywhere) after some period disappear… Did drinking MMS “drink” them on the end ? Don’t get me wrong, I know, 90% of people don’t have time, interest or care for others… But in thousands of users of MMS and other alternatives (like H2O2), where is this remaining 10% of cured conscientious, reliable users ? Why nobody, ever, did post he was cured ?
I have not lost my faith in anything (it’s just a matter of perception as well, did someone ever had it ? if yes, why, what made him believe and have faith in something ? was the root of this “learned” faith pure ?), so don’t take it as that. Also, don’t accuse me, point me, or criticize me, for being reasonable.
After all, I never proposed something different from what you already have faith in, research, think, re-think, alternatively think.
I am sorry if my post was too big or chaotic for any reader, I hope in general, you get my point.
By: Chris N. on January 22, 2009
at 5:04 pm
Chris,
I have talked to quite a few people who have “cured” a condition using MMS. The joy they report, and sometimes the disbelief, warms the heart. However, most of them are eager to get on with their life, especially after they realize how they’ve been unwittingly used by orthodox medicine for so long.
Some wonderful souls give attention to this place to support and encourage others who are journeying back to health. Your not seeing someone’s testimony about their “cure” doesn’t mean they aren’t happening. Then again, given how you’re thinking, if there was one, I’d venture that you’d say there was only one, which would simply be another way of being unimpressed.
MMS/chlorine dioxide doesn’t look for cancer, diabetes, heart disease, psoriasis, eczema, or any other condition. The oxidant simply reacts when it encounters anaerobic and acidic molecules, which tend to proliferate only when a person is “sick.” The more acidic the body, the “sicker” the individual. The name is meaningless. If you understood this, or were willing to accept it as true, you’d have your answer. Most of the people who are studying what chlorine dioxide does, and how to deploy it inside, have the answer they need, and are getting their own experience with it.
Best wishes in your search.
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 22, 2009
at 5:23 pm
Dear Adam,
first of all, I don’t understand why on first paragraph you quote the word cured. Do you imply doubt by that on their result’s validity or longevity ?
Additionally, I would not be unimpressed by the literally non-proofing cure history share of an individual, but, isn’t it crazy that not even this exists anywhere online ?
Finally, about MMS chemical functionality, I have some (sorry, again logical) objections to do…
As we all know, NaCl, is the well-known “table salt” we daily use. Salts, as we all know, are made from a chemical reaction, widely known as oxidation, which means drop of a loose electron from the acid to the alkaline molecule, and thus, formation of a salt (a theory lot years now rejected by the way, as electrons are proven they never leave a molecule, as they don’t even exist as material, they mostly seem to be, unproven yet, as an “electronic fog range”, so drops of electrons imply electronic discharges – That is why a lot of patented cure-machines with magnets and similar technologies also exist…)
So, as we all have been taught by the book of Jim, what Chlorite Dioxide (and NOT Chlorine) does, is traveling* through our blood, body, cells, and simply, when it meets a “bad” molecule, it oxidize it (electronically discharge it and form a salt, easily disposable and harmless, I agree).
*But hey, hold on!
We are wrong from the beginning…
Traveling ? How can it be traveling in our body ?
As we all know, all mammals have stomach or something related for digestion, which has HIGHLY Acid fluids (really lots of…)
So, simply, drinking ANY amount of MMS via stomach, is not able to work, as any amount gets instantly oxidized in stomach, correct ?
So, here comes the point…
What other, successful, safe, harmless and documented ways exist ?
BTW: the dermal way, simply can’t work as well, because when it passes from external skin, it falls onto the first fat membrane under skin (which we all have, no matter how fat or slim you are – we are not talking here for gallons of ClO2), so as you know, fat cells are also extremely acidic, which means ALL MMS got wasted and never got inside the rest body (at least, you might be able do a free liposuction – but not probably, as fat cells don’t get destroyed by this oxidosis, they just lose some material which they regain later faster – that is why when they say they got cured, they realized it because they started losing weight very fast, same is posted for oxygen therapies everywhere)
So, only reliable and working way I could think of, is Intravenously, but am not sure how safe it is for an individual to do that at home…
Maybe, finally, it’s 100 times preferred to go to an alternative treatments clinic and treat you with Oxygen, Ozone, Hydrogen Peroxide, Chlorite Dioxine, and anything else they know works and have experience on!
By: Chris N. on January 22, 2009
at 6:26 pm
The use of the quote marks around the word “cured,” in no way diminishes nor casts doubt on what the people involved did. They are free of their malady. They know what they experienced, and what the results were. They were all helped by disinfecting the water in their body. Some had cancer. Some had hepatitis. Some had herpes, psoriasis, eczema, and AIDS. Did MMS “cure” them? The answer is that it doesn’t really matter. Pollution is a problem in ALL such conditions. Removing toxicity is appropriate in all. MMS removes toxicity.
It’s not true that no testimonials exist online. Perhaps you’ve not yet found them, but they exist. Their existence is not really what’s important either, because the first people who began using chlorine dioxide for water purification 200 years ago, and then commercial water treatment 80 years ago, had to use their own intelligence and knowledge gained from observing the properties of the molecule. They had to use supposition as to how it should work. Their experience then confirmed the supposition. People are doing that every day after doing a sufficient amount of research to decide if it may something for them to try. You can use that same intelligence now. Your needing “proof” in order to suspend your judgment is simply your way to stay in your comfort zone, and away from real understanding.
I know what I’ve experienced, and the experiences others have shared with me. There wouldn’t be so much interest in this stuff if it weren’t producing tangible results, even with intangible factors considered. Knowledge will not be handed to you “on demand.” It’s something you must be willing to allow your mind to fathom, and that takes the courage to maintain an open position. Perhaps the main point where we part is that you’re trying to figure out all of this in your head and ignoring not only the chemical properties of chlorine dioxide, but the results that people have shared. Whether a pharmaceutical firm funded clinical trial or double blind study exists is immaterial when enough information is built into an understanding. A person who is dehydrated need not wait for a clinical trial to know that water should help their situation. Person who have been chronically ill and see how pollutants affect their internal chemistry are making up their own minds, and reaping the rewards.
Thanks again for your interest, and best wishes in your pursuit.
Adam
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on January 23, 2009
at 2:22 pm
Chris N. :
I HAVE to ask…WHERE are you getting this “Chlorite Dioxide” & “Chlorite Dioxine” you speak of… are you reading the literature properly ?
The MMS is made from 28% Sodium Chlorite, then when mixed with Citric Acid (10%) you get… CHLORINE DIOXIDE ! Ta DA !!!
Why all the doubting Thomas attitude… if you tried it and it didn’t work, I say move on.
But, it does sound like your maybe one of the few that your condition will ONLY be healed when you mentally can let go (of whatever it is your obsessing about) . . . and experience true healing.
Instead of just trying it, and doing the work,
no ?
Clint
By: Clint on January 22, 2009
at 7:08 pm
It sounds like some people would like to know why Chlorine Dioxide works and why it’s used to treat water. Maybe this will help you and its from the EPA.
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf
By: Chuck (cc.utah) on January 22, 2009
at 8:15 pm
Dear Adam,
first of all, I want to thank you for your continuous support and replies.
I wanted to ask you, and all members, a few things that are unclear and not able to be found easily anywhere online in one place…
First of all, I ordered MMS from mmsmiraclecom, since 15th, and nothing received yet, 9 days passed… Is this site reliable, anyone tried them and received ?
Secondly, I see lot of ideas, methods, protocols and products/substances/alternatives in this post and some other posts…
But, I never seen anywhere online, at one place, a complete matrix, which would contain info about everything and collected that knowledge…
What do you think, could you start such new Article, and have a form where all members contribute their protocols, products etc they have found ?
Something in form of:
Substance Name :: Chemical Type/Contents :: Explanation of what it does :: Recommended Price :: reliable links to online shops sending world-wide
(each :: a separate column in the matrix, and maybe even expand more columns and features…)
Just an idea… Let me know how you and others find it!
(I personally, could for sure contribute and spend some time sending you material, and all members comments, could be organized by you on top of the Article…)
Best Regards
Chris
By: Chris N. on January 23, 2009
at 4:50 pm
People have mentioned dental fillings and taking MMS. Can I take MMS if I have mercury fillings?
By: Bridget on January 25, 2009
at 7:51 am
I wanted to wait a while longer before I made a comment with my use of MMS but here it goes. In Aug.08 I contracted a virus (HSV-1) I also developed some secondary infections and I also have a white tongue, white lines along the inside of my jaw line and a white substance coming out of my inner and outer corners of my eyes. I now have seen a few doctors my last visit on Dec-17. At that time I found out I also have a fungi/yeast infection. They put me on Nystatin and Fluconazole but it seem to make matters much worse. I also had stopped the use of certain herbs I was using because I didn’t wan’t them to react with the medicine. On Dec 22 I got MMS in the mail and I begun to use it immediately because I was going down hill fast. By Jan.01 I had worked myself up to 15 drops of MMS + protocol and the the burning in my legs stopped and my overall well being was better. But I believe that I worked myself to 15 drops to fast. I begin to have this weird feeling in my upper chest just below my neck so I stopped. On Jan 22 I started use again but with a lower dose and I’m also monitoring my PH level of my mouth and urine, I also realize that my diet and the state of my mind (outlook/thinking) also plays into my condition. On another website (EarthClinic) I’ve read about adding Iodine with MMS which I have done by taking a Kelp supplement. I also found a study of Chlorine Dioxide and Iodine. Thx, CC.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=242149&blobtype=pdf
By: Chuck on January 25, 2009
at 10:12 am
Hi, Adam.
Just checking to see if you have had any progress yet. I still haven’t heard back from Jim, hope my email made it to him. I have checked on some of Dr. Sircus’ baking soda, and maple syrup treatment for fungus. Just wanting to find the best way to start. I’m still on clay, and 5 drops MMS; also have done colon cleanse. From what I understand from my medical doc. testing for systemic fungus can be very difficult. It’s not something he’s familiar with, but considering my symtoms he thought fungus is a possibility.
Like I stated on the 14th, I would love to get a conformation on what is causing all of this, or find out what my body needs to get back to living. I am thankful for all your, and the many other peoples time, and help at figuring this out. I know that I will heal when I find what my body needs.
Thank you again, Jeanne.
By: Jeanne on January 25, 2009
at 10:17 am
hi adam
just a couple of things you might be interested in,i have had hepc for about 4 years now,myliver enzymes have always been good and i have checked every 6 months,after being on the mms for 6 weeks i just got a blood test back and my enzymes are thourgh the roof,i belive the mms is killing the hepc,could this be the reason for the increase in liver enzymes,please write back as i,m a little concerned if the mms is making the situation worst,but i don,t belive so
thankyou adam
By: terry on January 26, 2009
at 1:12 pm
hi adam
just a couple of things you might be interested in,i have had hepc for about 4 years now,myliver enzymes have always been good and i have checked every 6 months,after being on the mms for 6 weeks i just got a blood test back and my enzymes are thourgh the roof,i belive the mms is killing the hepc,could this be the reason for the increase in liver enzymes,please write back as i,m a little concerned if the mms is making the situation worst,but i don,t belive so,i have already posted on jan 6 but you did not respond,could you please
thankyou adam
By: perry on January 26, 2009
at 1:18 pm
Hi Adam,
I’m hoping to travel to India soon and I’d rather use MMS than the malaria vaccination that was prescibed to me. Can you recommend an MMS protocol for a trip lasting 6 months to a year?
Any other suggestions are welcome and appreciated.
John
By: John I. on January 26, 2009
at 5:57 pm
Hi Adam and everyone…
I am a newbie to MMS and have been reading up on its healing properties. I think it sounds very promising and I am excited to telll everyone. I have a question. I have two friends with HIV. One who is not using any HIV medications and is healthy and the other who has had HIV for quite a while now. He is using medications, but is healthy with little to no HIV antibodies being detected.
Will taking this actually keep both of them from having to take medications for HIV in the future?? Does MMS interact negatively with HIV medications that someone is using currently??- I myself have no illnesses but I feel as though I want to take MMS with them so that they have someone to go through the process with. Is there any risk to me using MMS without in pre-existing conditions…
I know that is more than 1 question….but Any comments or suggestions are very appreciated
thank you
Kevin
By: Kevin on January 29, 2009
at 2:20 pm
I have no idea whom it is I am writing this to, but I need to know whether MMS would be suitable for myself. I was born with Milroy’s Disease and have now been diagnosed with myeloid displaysia.So far the Neupogen injections have given me some not to good side effects, they have boosted my blood cells but my legs are suffering. I may not be able to find this web-site again as I am am not to computer literate. If there is a medical professional out there that can answer me I would really appreciate an email as I am am getting scared and somewhat desperate. My daughter died 30/12/08 from myeloid leukaemia and conventional medicine, to whit, stem cell and bone marrow transplants. Please help me. Thank you, Helen Wilson.
By: Helen Wilson on January 29, 2009
at 8:57 pm
I started MMS a few days ago, first putting one drop in a small wine glass, activated it, filled the wine glass with water, used half of it as a mouthwash and half I drank. Same thing second day, 2 times a day. Morning of third day a gum problem that had bothered me for a month or so and that was growing steadily slowly worse (feeling rough when I ran my tongue over that gum and then developing what felt sort of like a rash of scab-like pinpoints) was obviously much better, less rough and far fewer “scab” points. Doubled the dosage (note that means I’m drinking only half a drop at first, twice a day, then upped it to one drop at a time for mouthwash and one drop for drinking), that particular gum problem is now entirely gone on the fifth day.
Sent for part two of the book but the download didn’t work, I got only the first 28 pages, the rest of the pages are blank. Looked all over the web site of the place I paid for the book but there is not only no email address, there is no contact info of any kind. Asked paypal to refund me for the failed download, they said no, their guaranty is good for only physical things. So I’m out the cost of the part 2. Grrr. Lesson learned — NEVER buy anything from a web site unless you have first checked that there is a way to contact them in case of problems. Anyone want to send me the part 2 I already paid for but didn’t get?
Maybe I’ll have to buy the hardcover, I won’t be willing to trust the download again from any site. (Part one from that site downloaded just fine.)
Question – people keep talking about raising dosage until you have negative reaction, but doesn’t a negative reaction mean it’s working too well? Too fast for your body to keep up with? Seems to me never getting that high would do the same clean-out of pathogens, more slowly and without stressing the body which sounds like more healthily, unless you have a medical problem that is worse than the MMS overdose reaction.
I’m finally motivated to get rid of a gum pre-cancer (which is why the other gum problem was scary – had it turned into cancer?) using mostly Budwig and some other gentle approaches. (I got rid of it a few years ago, got careless about diet and it came back, but it’s a slow growing kind of problem.) I’m intending to add MMS to my personal mix of approaches, but I’d rather do it gently, I’m not into making the body suffer needlessly.
Has anyone here used MMS gently over longer term with good effect, instead of using it at the higher nausia & D causing dosage?
By: Liz Brown on January 30, 2009
at 4:34 pm
In case anyone’s wondering, this is the site where I purchased the book part 2 that failed to download except for the first 28 pages, and that has no way to contact them to report the problem.
http://www.miraclemineral.org
They have a page for re-downloading if it didn’t work but that page rejects my Paypal confirmation number as if invalid.
One would think links with titles like “questions” would include contact info, but no, not a clue about how to contact them anywhere on the web page that I have found. I’m out $12.95.
By: Liz Brown on January 30, 2009
at 5:37 pm
Yellow teeth. Definitely, since starting MMS as mouthwash a few days ago. Baking soda helps. The very back teeth are white on the top half, so it seems to be a film on the teeth maybe related to saliva. I’ll worry about it after the health issues clear up. (Dentists can do whitening if needed.)
By: Liz Brown on January 31, 2009
at 6:01 pm
Hi, I am Julia Sanduval,
I am student of medicine, and am amazed of this new invention called MMS!
I am sort of funds, but would really like to read part 2, so I would really appreciate if anyone can send me a copy of e-book part 2, version 3.
juliasanduval@gmail.com
Thanx!
By: Julia S. on February 1, 2009
at 4:28 am
Hello to Everyone,
After successfully going through my first MMS session of building up slowly to 15 drops over several months, I have rid myself of that pesky genital herpes (I would say 90% of it) and other such micro critters, I am now a full blown MMS disciple. My immune system got a great boost and I feel great.
After a month of complete rest from MMS, I am now ingesting 15 drops (right off the bat) once per day for a week, now at 2X per day, and will increase to 3X per day for a week, and then go to maintenance. This time I’m aiming to go deeper into the tissues and annihilate the yeast and candida the most difficult to eradicate. I am off all other supplements for the time being except for MSM as Clint has suggested.
I can tell when the critters are successfully being evicted, because they speak to me through my eating patterns. When they are being evicted, they scream out through my apetite for junk food for their own survival. I go along to some extent, because to resist is to create a war which only makes it worse.
As part of my going to the next level of understnading how MMS works, I am going through the entire blog and categorizing each one according to subject. It came out to be 148 pages after I reformatted it. Now I can print and study it in detail like a book.
There was a request for the Cilantro Recipe, so I found it for anyone who wants it…
Cilantro Chelation Pesto
4 cloves garlic
1/3 cup Brazil nuts (selenium)
1/3 cup sunflower seeds (cysteine)
1/3 cup pumpkin seeds (zinc, magnesium)
2 cups packed fresh cilantro (coriander,
Chinese parsley) (vitamin A)
2/3 cup flaxseed oil
4 tablespoons lemon juice (vitamin C)
2 tsp dulse powder (seaweed powder)
Sea salt to taste
Process the cilantro and flaxseed oil in a blender until the coriander is chopped. Add the garlic, nuts and seeds, dulse and lemon juice and mix until the mixture is finely blended into a paste. Add a pinch to sea salt to taste and blend again. Store in dark glass jars if possible. It freezes well, so purchase cilantro in season and fill enough jars to last through the year.
Cilantro has been proven to chelate toxic metals from our bodies in a relatively short period of time. Combined with the benefits of the other ingredients, this recipe is a powerful tissue cleanser.
Two teaspoons of this pesto daily for three weeks is purportedly enough to increase the urinary excretion of mercury, lead and aluminum, thus effectively removing these
toxic metals from our bodies. We can consider doing this cleanse for three weeks at least once a year. The pesto is delicious on toast, baked potatoes, and pasta.
Luv to all, Karen Kimura
kmkimura@aol.com
By: Karen on February 2, 2009
at 3:21 am
To Liz Brown,
I know from reading Jim’s book, part 2, that he wants this information in as many people’s hands as possible.
If you’ll send your email address to me at
osidreambiz@gmail.com
I’ll send you part two, but only if you have read part 1. Put in the subject line, “Yes, I’ve Read Part !”
Great health and freedom to all,
Joe Riley
By: Joe Riley Brazzeal on February 2, 2009
at 7:03 pm
I am amazed at my mouth health after using MMS just as a mouthwash for a few days.
I finally found a contact for the web page and they sent me the part two I had ordered from them that hadn’t downloaded properly.
About nausea, I read on a different web page that if you get nausea from MMS, just eat an apple or take some activated charcoal capsules and the nausea will go away fast. The page said these substances absorb the toxins that backed up into your stomach and help them go out more slowly and gently the normal downward way. (But also decrease dosage below nausea next time.)
By: Liz Brown on February 2, 2009
at 7:24 pm
Now that I have skimmed book part two, let me reassure anyone who can’t afford it, although it is nice to have you don’t need it. All of the information is on the web free.
The book part 2 consists of three main parts –
1. how to use MMS (but go to Jim Humble’s web site http://mmsadvisor.com and you’ll get even more info specific to various diseases),
2. detailed instructions how to make MMS in your kitchen (but most of us aren’t going to do that anyway and the one place I found selling sodium chlorite in one pound lots charges $75, if you can afford that you can afford the book),
3. a (justified) diatribe against the FDA.
Interesting reading, worth the money if you have an extra $13, but you aren’t missing out on how to cure your health problems just because you don’t have part 2.
By: Liz Brown on February 2, 2009
at 8:58 pm
How about has anyone gotten to see Adam’s dvd interviewing Jim Humble? I had the hardest time finding the url to order it, but finally did. It’s at http://shop.understanding-mms.com. Adam, why not have it more accessible on this blog? It won’t be avail till later this month, but I can’t wait to get my hands on it. I think the best information is on this blog from people like us sharing our experiences and what we are learning….
Thanks Liz for the feedback on Part II – its useful information.
Karen
By: Karen on February 2, 2009
at 11:55 pm
With reference to Adam’s frequent exhortations about needing to have your mind, emotions and body *all* committed to wellness, if you are to see maximum positive results:
I utilize the Healing Kinesiology modality in my pastoral counseling, and my experiences validate Adam’s position. Ditto the findings of the Simontons an the correlation of specific emotional issues with the development of cancer. To wit -
a) yes, many cancer patients commonly evince a sense of hopelessness, a sense of helplessness, and repressed rage. The Simontons’ work seems to indicate that, when the emotional issues are healed cancer is much more likely to go into remission.
b) In addition I often find such people (and many others who are experiencing disappointing lives) are living out an internal script of ” I want to die” and/or “The universe is an unfriendly place” and/or “Other people and events control my life”.
c) I encourage anyone who is working to heal from a debilitating illness to check out their internal scripting to assure every part of themselves is coherently working toward full health. The two most effective modalities I know of, in terms of checking out scripting, and changing to new positive scripting if needed, are Healing Kinesiology and Psychological Kinesiology.
A capable practitioner should be able to help you get a scripting overview in less than an hour. In my experience you can begin replacing any destructive scripting within the hour, with maybe 2-4 additional sessions to complete the task.
FYI if you have trouble finding a practitioner, contact me and I will see if I can help.
BTW I was recommended to MMS by a man who, having survived cancer through alternate treatments himself, now shares with others what he sees as useful.
By: Pastor Brian Eastman on February 8, 2009
at 1:52 pm
Pastor Eastman,
Thank you for your insights, and willingness to help others. Illness provides a great opportunity for us to stop and take stock of any perceptual baggage that we may be carrying around. While they don’t weigh anything, they can nonetheless weigh our spirits down. The scripting that you refer to comes out as a dialogue that we tell to ourselves, often in inaudible tones to anyone else. They’ll tell us whether we think we can do something that we’d like to do, or whether we should even bother trying. Many dreams are stopped before they start because they never got out of our mind. Then we saddle ourselves with disappointment which can fester in to loathing. When such mental practices have become habit, a toll is exacted on the body itself, as well as on our experiences. Thank you for helping illustrate these points.
Regards,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on February 11, 2009
at 5:20 am
Dear Adam, It is me again..I just started MMS today and I have already taken 30 drops in the last 3hours with no adverse effects, Did I do something wrong as far as mixing citric acid? I used water that I boiled 2days ago with two drops of bleach in it to dilute the mms with..
By: denni on February 14, 2009
at 12:13 pm
got a sore throat now
By: denni on February 16, 2009
at 8:13 pm
was in hospital the last 24 hrs, I almost would die if I hadn’t gone to the hospital, due to MMS poisoning!
By: denni on February 17, 2009
at 12:47 am
denni, what could possibly have caused your so-called mms poisioning. Hmmm.. I wonder… could it have been the ridiculous amount that you started with. or maybe it was the fact that you can’t read all the protocols that are on various websites that many if not all MMS users read before they use it. and you say poisioning. well lets see the blood tests and the doctor’s evaluations. then we’ll determine if you were really poisoned and if so, by what! What I think is that since you didn’t get a response from Adam, who is probably busy doing other more important things, you decided to resort to a couple of postings to get his attention. Grow up. If you have nothing of substance to share with other MMS users, then don’t waste our time. On the other hand, if you have something that could help us, then please post it so we can learn from it. Your other postings were very vague so again, please elaborate or spare us from your dramatic need for attention.
By: mike van on February 17, 2009
at 7:59 am
mike van, if you want to be blind on the facts, then, no problem. In my opinion, MMS is poison, you just don’t see the problem in low doses, eventually, with chronic usage, you will be affected and damaged by using it.
By: denni on February 17, 2009
at 9:32 am
Denni,
Anyone who STARTS with 30 drops of MMS, given the PROFOUND AND CONSISTENT ADVICE to begin with one, doesn’t really have an opinion that is worth taking seriously. After your 30 drops you wondered whether you had done something wrong when there was no reaction. Then you said you had a sore throat, and then you were back from 24 hours in the hospital. If that was so, you must have been posting updates from the hospital. You probably took more. You talk about chronic usage. You usage wasn’t chronic. It was foolish. If you want to be taken seriously, then you need to follow the protocol as it has been mapped out, and then see what happens.
When you use anything to release toxicity, it feels like you’re about to die. It’s not unique to MMS usage. There are numerous books available that describe a phenomenon called a “healing crisis,” which I prefer to call a healing event. It feels like a crisis, for sure, but when it’s over, you’re feeling better. When you dislodge toxicity, whether they are heavy metal deposits, or parasites, or an overgrowth in anaerobic microorganisms, there will likely be discomfort while the body releases them. It doesn’t matter what the modality is.
The individual needs to know this going in, which you don’t appear to be acknowledging. The people who monitor this thread aren’t trying to exploit or otherwise profit from your misery. But they also know that this protocol can help, and IS helping many to reverse some very unpleasant conditions in their body. They also see the naivety in your comments, given your preceding posts. The process of detoxing can be unpleasant, but the results of doing so is better life and health. That’s what makes it all worthwhile.
If you really want to help yourself… if you have something that you’re trying to resolve, you might take Mike’s suggestions to heart. He asked you to post information that would be useful. You get the attention and response from him, myself, or a number of people who are willing to help. But if your final conclusion is that MMS is a “poision,” which we now KNOW is not the case, your posts do amount to a waste of time. Not just ours, but mostly yours, because you will carry around a mis-perception about something that could dramatically assist you one day.
Best wishes all,
Adam…
By: phaelosopher on February 17, 2009
at 10:50 am
Hello,
I’ve done a great amount of research on MMS, read both of Jim Humble’s books and have read/listened to many interviews and testimonies.
In the end, it was certainly enough to convince me that I wanted to get my hands on it, which recently have.
I haven’t used it as of yet.
Last night, I got the first hints of a possible throat problem/infection. This morning I can confirm the familiar sore throat and what will most likely be with me for the next while.
I figure today is a good time to start the MMS protocol and will do just that with the minimum 2 drops soon, wait and then possibly 2 more at the end of the day.
Obviously other than the toxic riddance I hope to achieve, I’m interested in seeing if I can stop this throat issue in it’s tracks.
I’ll report back soon if I have any results worth sharing.
Take care!
-SB
By: SB on February 17, 2009
at 12:09 pm
I went ahead and started with 4 drops MMS and 20 drops citric acid.
I took Adam’s recommendation for Pomegranate juice. It was very bearable.
-SB
By: SB on February 17, 2009
at 1:35 pm
Denni
Get a fucking Clue !
(pardon my French…ok ?!)
If you are elderly.. then I apologize in advance… but if you haven’t read previous posts…much less the protocols that Jim Humble has painstakingly said (add nausea) over and over…. then you deserve to be sick from it.
get a CLUE !
(reaching for a Valium®)
Clint
By: Clint on February 17, 2009
at 10:03 pm
There is a website called miraclemineralsales.org. It has MMS 1:1. Is this this the same as the MMS with the activator solution? Has anyone used it? This will be my first order and I have several issues, diabetes 1, hsv1&2, carpal tunnel, eczema, acne, tendonitis….
I will also be going on vacation, should i start this after my vacation in case i break out in hives or get nausia on the trip?
Help!
By: Moongirl on February 18, 2009
at 6:41 am
Moongirl
I have never seen this site before, thanks for pointing it out.
Yes, it sais 1 to 1 (1 drop MMS to 1 drop 50% Citric Acid) . . . but it seems that is for Water Purification ONLY…. and not a protocol for our inner water works.
I am just curious if Jim Humble has certified that site, as they have picture of him up there.
As for your decision to start MMS AFTER your vacation . . . it might be a wise idea. If you start discharging, getting nausea, etc… on your vacation, it might ruin a relaxing time.
My 2c
Clint
By: Clint on February 18, 2009
at 8:06 am
Ok, so I wont purchase that and will wait till after vacation.
I found it from what I believe is his website called miraclemineral.org. I’ve also gone to Whole Foods looking for pure organic juice with no vitamin C and all have vitamin C, atleast 2-3%. Any recommendations as to where i can find juice with no vitamin C? I’m in Chicago, IL.
By: moongirl on February 18, 2009
at 8:29 am
Smart move MG !
There should be juices in WholeFoods that have NO Ascorbic Acid added . . and the brand I use is ‘Lakewood’ brand . . . it’s the JUICE ONLY.
I am in Houston here, and all the WholeFoods have them. You might try calling WholeFoods first before you set out on your trek and see if they even carry it.
Good luck,
Clint
By: Clint on February 18, 2009
at 8:34 am
Awesome! Thanks for your advice!
By: moongirl on February 18, 2009
at 8:45 am